Dear "Dr. Artaud:"
You limit your defamation to Amateur Astronomers. I have known many
astronomers, both radio and optical astronomers, and I observed
virtually none who could possibly be classified as "quite dysfunctional
personality wise." Those few may simply have been shy.
This anonymous bit of defamation should be disregarded. Mac
N8TT
--
J. Mc Laughlin - Michigan USA

"Dr. Artaud" wrote in message
snip

You wouldn't happen to be an Amateur Astronomer, would you? When I
used to
be into the hobby, I noticed that many of the Amateurs were quite
dysfunctional personality wise. (I know that in my case it's kind of
like
the kettle calling the pot black, figuratively, of course).

Dr. Artaud

"J. McLaughlin" wrote in
:


On a planet of insane people, the sane man must appear insane. If you
are intimate with the likes of amateur astronomers, you would hardly be
in the position of being able to judge their character.

Not to mention that your post, once again as in the post I originally
replied to, attempts to "rate or judge" the suitability for other
readers. If I were you, I would quickly add me to your plonk file and
not bother yourself with the need to protect others.

I have observed quite a few seriously dysfunctional amateur astronomers,
they usually aren't the type that casually fit in with the masses. As
Carl Jung would have explained, they honed their technical abilities at
the expense of their personality. This he refers to as differentiation.
He depicts this as a cross like structure, with thinking and feeling at
opposite ends of one axis, and sensation and intuition at opposite ends
of the other axis. He feels, as I do, that when you are differentiated
into thinking, you progressively exclude feeling.

These amateur astronomers are emasculated, quite awkward at dealing with
women, quite oblivious to the needs of others, save for others involved
in similar endeavors. Though they ostensibly appear male (some are
female, nothing to write home about), they respond towards attractive
women visiting the observatory as if they (the astronomers) are about 12
years old.

I read your post to my wife, she broke out laughing. The idea that you
feel that amateur astronomers aren't dysfunctional was too much for her
to handle. She has likewise seen the dysfunction in these people. We
used to belong to the AAAP, Amateur Astronomers Association of
Pittsburgh, http://trfn.clpgh.org/aaap/

"With over 500 members, it is one of the larger astronomy clubs in the
nation.."

http://trfn.clpgh.org/aaap/images/brashear.jpg

You take umbrage because I mentioned amateur astronomers as
dysfunctional, but in your zeal to find fault, you made an improper
assumption, i.e. that I find the dysfunction only with them. Quite the
contrary, model railroaders, HAM radio operators, remote control model
enthusiasts, computer geeks, these all have decent populations that are
dysfunctional, as do other more technical hobbies that do not currently
come to mind.

You also missed that my point of "the kettle calling the pot black". I
mentioned this since I also believe that I fall into the dysfunctional
category. So what?

"Use the plonk file Luke", let the NG fend for themselves.

Sincerely, a former dysfunctional amateur astronomer and a somewhat less
(not very much less though) dysfunctional shortwave listener.

Dr. Artaud




Dear "Dr. Artaud:"
You limit your defamation to Amateur Astronomers. I have known
many
astronomers, both radio and optical astronomers, and I observed
virtually none who could possibly be classified as "quite
dysfunctional personality wise." Those few may simply have been shy.
This anonymous bit of defamation should be disregarded. Mac
N8TT
--
J. Mc Laughlin - Michigan USA

"Dr. Artaud" wrote in message
snip

To know and to be, this is not even a question, there is no alternative.
You see it clearly in the loneliest little avenues between particles and
waves, shunned even by the gregarious quark and unknown by the various
strands of time, so big it cannot be seen, yet so little it is
immovable, lies the fabric of the ultimate reality gripped in the fist
of the all or nothing."

Doc.

Take your Ritalin.

-- Stinger

"Dr. Artaud" wrote in message
...
"J. McLaughlin" wrote in
:


On a planet of insane people, the sane man must appear insane. If you
are intimate with the likes of amateur astronomers, you would hardly be
in the position of being able to judge their character.

Not to mention that your post, once again as in the post I originally
replied to, attempts to "rate or judge" the suitability for other
readers. If I were you, I would quickly add me to your plonk file and
not bother yourself with the need to protect others.

I have observed quite a few seriously dysfunctional amateur astronomers,
they usually aren't the type that casually fit in with the masses. As
Carl Jung would have explained, they honed their technical abilities at
the expense of their personality. This he refers to as differentiation.
He depicts this as a cross like structure, with thinking and feeling at
opposite ends of one axis, and sensation and intuition at opposite ends
of the other axis. He feels, as I do, that when you are differentiated
into thinking, you progressively exclude feeling.

These amateur astronomers are emasculated, quite awkward at dealing with
women, quite oblivious to the needs of others, save for others involved
in similar endeavors. Though they ostensibly appear male (some are
female, nothing to write home about), they respond towards attractive
women visiting the observatory as if they (the astronomers) are about 12
years old.

I read your post to my wife, she broke out laughing. The idea that you
feel that amateur astronomers aren't dysfunctional was too much for her
to handle. She has likewise seen the dysfunction in these people. We
used to belong to the AAAP, Amateur Astronomers Association of
Pittsburgh, http://trfn.clpgh.org/aaap/

"With over 500 members, it is one of the larger astronomy clubs in the
nation.."

http://trfn.clpgh.org/aaap/images/brashear.jpg

You take umbrage because I mentioned amateur astronomers as
dysfunctional, but in your zeal to find fault, you made an improper
assumption, i.e. that I find the dysfunction only with them. Quite the
contrary, model railroaders, HAM radio operators, remote control model
enthusiasts, computer geeks, these all have decent populations that are
dysfunctional, as do other more technical hobbies that do not currently
come to mind.

You also missed that my point of "the kettle calling the pot black". I
mentioned this since I also believe that I fall into the dysfunctional
category. So what?

"Use the plonk file Luke", let the NG fend for themselves.

Sincerely, a former dysfunctional amateur astronomer and a somewhat less
(not very much less though) dysfunctional shortwave listener.

Dr. Artaud




Dear "Dr. Artaud:"
You limit your defamation to Amateur Astronomers. I have known
many
astronomers, both radio and optical astronomers, and I observed
virtually none who could possibly be classified as "quite
dysfunctional personality wise." Those few may simply have been shy.
This anonymous bit of defamation should be disregarded. Mac
N8TT
--
J. Mc Laughlin - Michigan USA

"Dr. Artaud" wrote in message
snip

To know and to be, this is not even a question, there is no alternative.
You see it clearly in the loneliest little avenues between particles and
waves, shunned even by the gregarious quark and unknown by the various
strands of time, so big it cannot be seen, yet so little it is
immovable, lies the fabric of the ultimate reality gripped in the fist
of the all or nothing."

"Stinger" wrote in
:

Thank you for your response. As I recently had the misfortune to need to
reload my newsreader program, I have been unsure about those that I
previously killfiled (plonked). You would seem to fit admirably into
that category. I had read several of your posts and had vacillated on
whether or not to killfile you. I think I'll err on the conservative
side (apropos) and do it anyway.

Take your Rilalin.

Ritalin is a drug commonly used for ADHD and narcolepsy. The ADHD
indication is often used for adolescents (I guess many would place me
in that category by my writings), and for adults with narcolepsy. Being
that I am no longer clinically adolescent and that I do not suffer from
narcolepsy, I'm afraid that there are no indications for me concerning
this product.

I would like to thank you for expressing your concern about my health,
this certainly puts you above many others on this NG.

Dr. Artaud

Doc.

Take your Ritalin.

-- Stinger

To know and to be, this is not even a question, there is no alternative.
You see it clearly in the loneliest little avenues between particles and
waves, shunned even by the gregarious quark and unknown by the various
strands of time, so big it cannot be seen, yet so little it is
immovable, lies the fabric of the ultimate reality gripped in the fist
of the all or nothing."

Doc,

My comment was not meant to offend you. I enjoy reading your posts, and
I feel very badly that you took mine that way.

Please understand that my pals and I say that phrase when somebody is
making an intense effort to belabor the obvious (as a humorous way to let
them know they've made their point). I guess I thought it was more
universal ;^)

Please accept my sincerest apologies, and do know that I actually do
care about your health.

-- Stinger


"Dr. Artaud" wrote in message
...
"Stinger" wrote in
:

Thank you for your response. As I recently had the misfortune to need to
reload my newsreader program, I have been unsure about those that I
previously killfiled (plonked). You would seem to fit admirably into
that category. I had read several of your posts and had vacillated on
whether or not to killfile you. I think I'll err on the conservative
side (apropos) and do it anyway.

Take your Rilalin.

Ritalin is a drug commonly used for ADHD and narcolepsy. The ADHD
indication is often used for adolescents (I guess many would place me
in that category by my writings), and for adults with narcolepsy. Being
that I am no longer clinically adolescent and that I do not suffer from
narcolepsy, I'm afraid that there are no indications for me concerning
this product.

I would like to thank you for expressing your concern about my health,
this certainly puts you above many others on this NG.

Dr. Artaud

Doc.

Take your Ritalin.

-- Stinger

To know and to be, this is not even a question, there is no alternative.
You see it clearly in the loneliest little avenues between particles and
waves, shunned even by the gregarious quark and unknown by the various
strands of time, so big it cannot be seen, yet so little it is
immovable, lies the fabric of the ultimate reality gripped in the fist
of the all or nothing."

And what does all this have to do with amateur antennas?

It means that this will screw up propagation forcasting
which many of us depend on for dxing.

Like I said, what does it have to do with antennas?

Perhaps the group should be renamed to "Antennas and Propagation",
just like the IEEE professional interest one? HF ionospheric
propagation has been a consistent topic of discussion in this
group over the years, particularly in regards to propagation-
prediction computer programs such as VOACAP. The demise of
of an organization that provides the input parameters (solar
flux, sunspot numbers) for these programs affects their
utility.

Jim, K7JEB

Watch and see as Bush "Act II popcorn man" becomes
a one-term President. He's making the same mistakes
as his daddy did in 92 and the Democrats will eat him
and the GOP alive in 04. Clinton may have been a
pot smoking womanizer, but the checks still came thru
every Friday and more people were working when he
was running the show in the O. Office.


Considering that the Democrats have said time and time again through
stump speeches and Non-Debates, they want to cut and run, I don't see
how they will succeed in unseating Bush. Their job just got harder
now that positive economic numbers have been coming out lately.



His daddy's "mistake" was the idiot Perrot who took the votes away from
republicans, can't you get that in your sculls?

DemocRATS keep running out "disasters" and will come come with some new
"crisis" or they will invent some. Like Global Warmint? It's the SUN stupid,
human contribution amounts to a fart in a stadium. Sent the tree huggers to
fight forest fires!

BUm