On 3-14 or 3-15 I started a thread concerning a new url for my web page at
. After the original post I added two more. Then a few days ago I
started to add another post, but the thread had disappeared.

Can anyone tell me how a thread disappears? Can it be deleted? By just anyone?

Walt Maxwell, W2DU

On 3-14 or 3-15 I started a thread concerning a new url for my web page at
. After the original post I added two more. Then a few days ago I
started to add another post, but the thread had disappeared.

Can anyone tell me how a thread disappears? Can it be deleted? By just anyone?

There's no universal mechanism for a "thread". It depends on your
news server and your newsreader.

Threads are often based on headers placed in the newsgroup articles...
when one posts a followup, the newsreader usually adds a "references:"
header which gives the article-ID of whatever message you're posting a
followup to. Newsreader programs, or Web-based newsreading services
can use these "references:" headers to deduce the linear or tree
structure of a thread of articles.

Some newsreaders don't use this information, and try to deduce the
thread structure by looking at the 'Subject' headers.

In either case, there's no standard for how a system maintains a 'list
of active threads', and there is no centralized registry. Each system
which stores and processes USENET news (Giganews, Supernews, Google,
and numerous smaller servers) has the ability to maintain its own
thread database, makes its own decisions about how such databases are
constructed, and makes its own decision about how long to store the
thread information and the underlying articles themselves.

--
Dave Platt AE6EO
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On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 17:22:23 GMT, Walter Maxwell wrote:

On 3-14 or 3-15 I started a thread concerning a new url for my web page at
. After the original post I added two more. Then a few days ago I
started to add another post, but the thread had disappeared.

Can anyone tell me how a thread disappears? Can it be deleted? By just anyone?

Walt Maxwell, W2DU

Hi Walt,

I've seen all your threads. I've visited you site to review your
papers (re-read the one on sourze C). You populated one thread with
three postings, one after the other (not duplicate postings however).
Visit:
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/...n&lr=&ie=UTF-8
and search against your name to confirm what has made it into the Web.
If you see more than your ISP has delivered, your ISP may have a
broken News chain.

73's
Richard Clark, KB7QHC

Walter Maxwell wrote:
On 3-14 or 3-15 I started a thread concerning a new url for my web page at
. After the original post I added two more. Then a few days ago I
started to add another post, but the thread had disappeared.

Can anyone tell me how a thread disappears? Can it be deleted? By just anyone?

Are the threads still available on Google? If so, you can
add that additional post through Google and it will show up
here.

Threads can be canceled by the poster. Graphics postings
to text-only newsgroups are automatically deleted. Obscene
material is often deleted. Server problems can cause loss of
threads. On some usenet news servers, there is an option to allow
a posting to expire after N days. For instance, the announcement
of a hamfest should expire after the hamfest is over.
--
73, Cecil http://www.qsl.net/w5dxp


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On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 10:14:57 -0800, Richard Clark wrote:

On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 17:22:23 GMT, Walter Maxwell wrote:

On 3-14 or 3-15 I started a thread concerning a new url for my web page at
. After the original post I added two more. Then a few days ago I
started to add another post, but the thread had disappeared.

Can anyone tell me how a thread disappears? Can it be deleted? By just anyone?

Walt Maxwell, W2DU

Hi Walt,

I've seen all your threads. I've visited you site to review your
papers (re-read the one on sourze C). You populated one thread with
three postings, one after the other (not duplicate postings however).
Visit:
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/...n&lr=&ie=UTF-8
and search against your name to confirm what has made it into the Web.
If you see more than your ISP has delivered, your ISP may have a
broken News chain.

73's
Richard Clark, KB7QHC
Hi Dave, Richard, and Cecil,

Richard, I checked the url you gave above and the thread I initiated on the 14th
or 15th doesn't appear there either. Evidently it's gone--disappeared a little
more than a week after being initiated. I've never seen this happen before with
any posting. I've often gone back to various posts several months later to
review them and they're still there. And God knows I didn't delete my own--I
don't know how to do it.

I believe the three postings you said I made are the three that have
disappeared, but the one I posted today is there. Cecil said posts can be
deleted by the poster, but can they be deleted by someone else? Guess I'll just
have to believe mine were eaten by the cyberspace monster and fuhgeddaboudid.

Incidentally, Richard, which paper did you re-read that you called 'sourze C'?

Walt

Hi Walter,
You web page host may have restored
an earlier backup of your web page,
or your web page host may have been hacked.
Thank you for taking the time
to share your work with us.

"Walter Maxwell" wrote in message
...
On 3-14 or 3-15 I started a thread concerning a new url for my web page at
. After the original post I added two more. Then a few days
ago I
started to add another post, but the thread had disappeared.

Can anyone tell me how a thread disappears? Can it be deleted? By just
anyone?

Walt Maxwell, W2DU

On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 21:33:59 GMT, Walter Maxwell wrote:

God knows I didn't delete my own--I
don't know how to do it.

Hi Walt,

This is simple to confirm from your end of the posting. Go to
"Window" on the menu bar, click "Open Outbox."

This will open a window of all the postings you have made. Scroll
down to the date you made these posts that did not appear and note if
the icon to the left of them is in red showing you had some problem
connecting to the server for outgoing posts.

Cecil said posts can be deleted by the poster,

This is a fantasy. May as well blame it on photons.

but can they be deleted by someone else?

Such manipulation requires rather exotic software that only crackers
deal with. We had an episode of that some months back, but by recent
reports he was wrestled to the ground by three cops. Feces happens.

Incidentally, Richard, which paper did you re-read that you called 'sourze C'?

Examine the carefully crafted term.

73's
Richard Clark, KB7QHC

Richard Clark wrote:

Walter Maxwell wrote:
Cecil said posts can be deleted by the poster,

This is a fantasy.

Not at all. My usenet service provider allows me
to delete my own posts. That's useful if I typo
"1/2WL" instead of "1/4WL" or some such.
--
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On Mon, 28 Mar 2005 10:04:54 -0600, Cecil Moore
wrote:
This is a fantasy.
Not at all.
The void of experiance. Galileo should have had such access to
retractions.

On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 23:09:05 GMT, Jon wrote:

On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 17:22:23 GMT, Walter Maxwell wrote:

On 3-14 or 3-15 I started a thread concerning a new url for my web page at
. After the original post I added two more. Then a few days ago I
started to add another post, but the thread had disappeared.

Can anyone tell me how a thread disappears? Can it be deleted? By just anyone?

Walt Maxwell, W2DU

I have the thread beginning on 3/3 with the follow ups on 3/7 & 3/14. Do you need to look
further back in time on your browser.?

I see that you are using the same server as I use. I checked and your messages are still
on the East Earthlink news server. It is possible that your news reader is confused (for
want of a better word). On my Agent, Version (1.9) I retrieved the old headers and
messages for this group by selecting the group and then clicking on "Online" and then
clicking on "Get All Headers in Selected Group". I don't know how this would be done on
agent 2.0, but perhaps it is similar.

Posts on the server go back to late September, around 10,000 of them, so it may take a
while.

Jon

73 de KJ4OP
Thanks to you, Jon, and all others who came to my rescue.

Turns out that my Alzheimers intervened again. I was certain that my earlier of
the problem posts were posted on either 3-14 or 3-15, so I didn't look at the
earlier postings. Actually, as Jon pointed out above, I initiated my thread on
3-3--fooled the H out of me.

Seems impossible not to larn' something when participating in this group--I sure
larned something today. Thanks to you all.

Walt, W2DU