can you tx on a tv antenna

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Yes, no problem!
You can also "tx" in a cellular phone antenna... I do it every day.



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can you tx on a tv antenna

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Ken Wood wrote:
"Can you tx on a tv antenna?"

A perfectly matched TV receiving antenna reradiates 50% of all the
energy it intercepts. A mismatched antenna retransmits a higher
percentage.

Best regards, Richard Harrison, KB5WZI

I used a small TV antenna, fed with 300 ohm ribbon through a homebrew 1/2
wave coaxial balun made from RG-11/u to make a 4 to 1 jobber. Worked great
with my Ten Tech transverter on six meters.

Years ago I did a similar trick with 2 meter AM phone and another type of TV
antenna.

So the answer is yes....however...now a days you normally find 70 ohm TV
coax and a balun up on the antenna. That Balun will not take much power.
Ten watts not a problem, over that....well. And you won't need a balun.
Just hook the coax to the rig. Take the slight SWR and don't sweat it.

BUT again....most to all TV antenna's are NOT cut to the ham bands.....

Dan/W4NTI

"ken wood" wrote in message
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can you tx on a tv antenna

http://community.webtv.net/rci2900/doc

How about a little more explanatin on the 50% reradiates?

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73
Hank WD5JFR

"Richard Harrison" wrote in message
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Ken Wood wrote:
"Can you tx on a tv antenna?"

A perfectly matched TV receiving antenna reradiates 50% of all the
energy it intercepts. A mismatched antenna retransmits a higher
percentage.

Best regards, Richard Harrison, KB5WZI

Henry Kolesnik wrote:
How about a little more explanatin on the 50% reradiates?

In a perfectly matched system, half the power is "lost"
in the source. In the case of a receiving antenna, that
power is lost to radiation from the antenna during
receive, i.e. the antenna radiation resistance is the
"source".

Something I have wondered about: If we simply amplify
the receiver voltage through a near infinite impedance
FET with virtually no load on the signal, do we get the
signal information but lose virtually all the power to
re-radiation? (assume high S/S+N)
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Cecil
Good thought. As I understand it a receiver doesn't really need any power,
so if the antenna is 50 ohms and the Rx input is say 1000 ohms most of the
power has to be relflected to the antenna.

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73
Hank WD5JFR
"Cecil Moore" wrote in message
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Henry Kolesnik wrote:
How about a little more explanatin on the 50% reradiates?

In a perfectly matched system, half the power is "lost"
in the source. In the case of a receiving antenna, that
power is lost to radiation from the antenna during
receive, i.e. the antenna radiation resistance is the
"source".

Something I have wondered about: If we simply amplify
the receiver voltage through a near infinite impedance
FET with virtually no load on the signal, do we get the
signal information but lose virtually all the power to
re-radiation? (assume high S/S+N)
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73, Cecil http://www.qsl.net/w5dxp

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In article , Cecil Moore wrote:

Something I have wondered about: If we simply amplify
the receiver voltage through a near infinite impedance
FET with virtually no load on the signal, do we get the
signal information but lose virtually all the power to
re-radiation? (assume high S/S+N)

I think so, yes. Electrically, a "driven element" which feeds a
very-high-impedance FET would look like a simple passive element (e.g.
like a parasitic director or reflector in a Yagi). There would be
some small amount of power delivered into the load (the FET's gate
capacitance and its associated losses), and some small amount
dissipated as losses in the element itself, but the rest would be
re-radiated... just as is the case with an unloaded parasitic element.

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Cecil,

Check with Melles-Griot on this one.

Hint: Think conservation of energy. Them joules gotta go somewhere.

However, in reality the opposite happens. As the antenna load goes to
infinity the scattering cross section (i.e. retransmission) goes to zero
faster than the capture cross section.

(Plagiarized from Kraus Antennas, 2nd ed.)

73,
Gene
W4SZ

Cecil Moore wrote:


Something I have wondered about: If we simply amplify
the receiver voltage through a near infinite impedance
FET with virtually no load on the signal, do we get the
signal information but lose virtually all the power to
re-radiation? (assume high S/S+N)

Henry Kolesnik wrote:

Cecil
Good thought. As I understand it a receiver doesn't really need any power,
so if the antenna is 50 ohms and the Rx input is say 1000 ohms most of the
power has to be relflected to the antenna.

Make it one megohm and virtually all receive power in
a perfectly matched antenna is lost to re-radiation?
So by astute choice of feedline length we can choose
constructive interference or destructive interference
in the re-radiated signals? :-)
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