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Perfecto, Reg!
This is exactly what I was looking for ...but I had forgotten you had written this little jewel. I am a bit surprised at the small effect on losses in the number of radials once one gets above 8 radials of 20m length. I need to play more with wire size (confounded mm!) Thanks again for your contribution of this program. 73 ....hasan, N0AN "Reg Edwards" wrote in message ... For single-band operation, an autotransformer comes to mind. Wind a coil with about 12 microhenries of inductance. Transmitter output goes to the top of the coil. Ground goes to the bottom. Tap down from the top on the coil for the antenna feedpoint. The transformation ratio is roughly equal to the square of the turns ratio. -- 73, Cecil http://www.qsl.net/w5dxp =============================== Cec, it seldom works. You forgot to mention the most important parameter is the input impedance to the antenna. For an analysis of an inverted-L or vertical antenna, plus tuner L and C component values, download in a few seconds program ENDFEED from website below. No unzipping inconveniences. Run immediately. Easy to use. ---- .................................................. ......... Regards from Reg, G4FGQ For Free Radio Design Software go to http://www.btinternet.com/~g4fgq.regp .................................................. ......... |
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Reg Edwards wrote:
For single-band operation, an autotransformer comes to mind. Wind a coil with about 12 microhenries of inductance. Transmitter output goes to the top of the coil. Ground goes to the bottom. Tap down from the top on the coil for the antenna feedpoint. The transformation ratio is roughly equal to the square of the turns ratio. Cec, it seldom works. You forgot to mention the most important parameter is the input impedance to the antenna. I didn't forget, Reg. The input impedance was given in the original posting: "Frequency = 3.71 MHz Impedance = 29.15 + J 0.308 ohms" Assuming that is the input impedance, I think my advice was reasonable. If I had to match 50 ohms to 29 ohms on a single band, I would just wind an autotransformer. -- 73, Cecil http://www.qsl.net/w5dxp ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =---- |
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Thanks, Cecil, and yes, that would work just fine and I have some B+W coil
stock sitting on a shelf, should work fine. (I used part of it before for a parallel tuned circuit to tap feed my half-square.) ....hasan, N0AN "Cecil Moore" wrote in message ... Reg Edwards wrote: For single-band operation, an autotransformer comes to mind. Wind a coil with about 12 microhenries of inductance. Transmitter output goes to the top of the coil. Ground goes to the bottom. Tap down from the top on the coil for the antenna feedpoint. The transformation ratio is roughly equal to the square of the turns ratio. Cec, it seldom works. You forgot to mention the most important parameter is the input impedance to the antenna. I didn't forget, Reg. The input impedance was given in the original posting: "Frequency = 3.71 MHz Impedance = 29.15 + J 0.308 ohms" Assuming that is the input impedance, I think my advice was reasonable. If I had to match 50 ohms to 29 ohms on a single band, I would just wind an autotransformer. -- 73, Cecil http://www.qsl.net/w5dxp ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =---- |
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Assuming that is the input impedance, I think my advice was
reasonable. If I had to match 50 ohms to 29 ohms on a single band, I would just wind an autotransformer. -- 73, Cecil http://www.qsl.net/w5dxp ================================== Cec, to prevent the transformer inductance from completely detuning the antenna, the transformer would have to be wound with a lot of turns on something like an E and I dust-iron core. It's not worth the trouble when there are other, more simple ways of doing the job. The only advantage of a transformer or auto-transformer is that it will cover several bands or octaves with widely different antenna impedances. Nice to bump into each other again. ---- Reg. |
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Reg Edwards wrote:
Cec, to prevent the transformer inductance from completely detuning the antenna, the transformer would have to be wound with a lot of turns on something like an E and I dust-iron core. Yep, somewhere around here I have a tapped autotransformer wound on a #2 powdered iron toroid designed for 75m use. I wound it to be installed at the twinlead/coax junction on a G5RV to obtain a 1:1 SWR on the coax on 75m. It worked but I found that a parallel 1000 pf cap works just as well and is easier to clip on and off. -- 73, Cecil http://www.qsl.net/w5dxp ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =---- |
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![]() "Hasan Schiers" wrote, I am a bit surprised at the small effect on losses in the number of radials once one gets above 8 radials of 20m length. =========================================== Hasan, why should you be surprised? Have you been reading the plagiarised old-wives tales in the magazines? ;o) There's another more accurate program, RADIALS2, which may be of interest, which deals with shallow-buried radials of any length and number, in conjunction with a simple vertical antenna of variable height just to illustrate the practical effects. Download program RADIALS2 from website below. ---- .................................................. .......... Regards from Reg, G4FGQ For Free Radio Design Software go to http://www.btinternet.com/~g4fgq.regp .................................................. .......... |
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I'm sorta surprised you would need to match it, if it's a
1/4 wave...I think your match in the real world, would be better than on paper...I've never had to "match" a 1/4 wave here, L or straight.... But.....if I did, I would just slap the tuner inline...On that band, any mismatch would have to be large to give a high line loss. That won't be the case for you just going from one part of the band to another...Also, you should be able to get a better match than 1.7:1, just by tweaking the wire length. MK |
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