how many sins can i count...
1. guyed to trees
2. guyed to power pole
3. saddled lots of dead horses
4. two different tower types mixed
5. doesn't look like a proper base... at least not to rohn specs.
6. that mast sure does look too long above the kind of tiny tube top.
7. no thrust bearing
8. too close to power line? probably since its guyed to a power pole.

9. no thimbles on the guy wire connections. Wonder how long before those
10. judging by how the loop of guy wire through the turnbuckle is still
fairly round, I'd bet the tension on the guy wires is too slack. Should
have 400 lbs per guy for 3/16" EHS on Rohn 25.
11. no safety wire through the turnbuckles.

At least the loading (antennas) are pretty light.

Tor
N4OGW

9. no thimbles on the guy wire connections. Wonder how long before those
10. judging by how the loop of guy wire through the turnbuckle is still
fairly round, I'd bet the tension on the guy wires is too slack. Should
have 400 lbs per guy for 3/16" EHS on Rohn 25.
11. no safety wire through the turnbuckles.

got cut off...

9. no thimbles on the guy wire connections. Wonder how long before those
guy wire loops crimp and break.


With such a small antenna load, I don't think a thrust bearing is
really needed.

Tor
N4OGW

Charlie:

Bet when you started out, you would never have thought so many petty
hams existed.

All you need to do is beef up that setup a bit and smile at all the
losers here. Jealous "old women hams" of a envious and vindictive
nature.

Just laugh a bit when they sit out there eating the signal off the 90
foot beast.

Perhaps you can, once in a awhile, be kind and offer to, "Let them sit
on it!" grin

John

"Charlie" wrote in message
...
75 ft guyed tower with 21 foot mast. 2M M2 HO LOOP antenna at 95
ft. M2 2M9SSB beam antenna at 90 ft.
The difference from antennas at around 30 ft to the same antennas at
90-95 ft is astonishing. Anyone considering raising their antennas
should "just do it"

1. http://deepsouthnet.net/tower.html

I am founder and net control for the Deep South 2 Meter SSB Net
located in Union,Mississippi. Come join us 7 nights a week at 8:30PM
CDT on 144.240 MHz USB. We have 10-15 or more check-ins nightly
with 38 on our All Time Total Roster and nearly 25 on our Active
Roster! The net has grown from it's first Roll Call on April
8,2005 at an amazing rate.

--

Charlie
Ham Radio - AD5TH
www.ad5th.com
Deep South 2 Meter SSB Net
www.deepsouthnet.net

Hi John and thanks for those remarks....

Well no I did not expect so many "petty hams" but it is just human nature
and the heart of man I suppose to be that way for some folks. Tropical
storm Cindy is coming our way now and I'll see how the tower holds up.

I can sure tell everyone and anyone that the difference from 30 ft to
90-95ft is really astonishing. I doubt this smile will leave my face for
some time. 73 / DX

--

Charlie
Ham Radio - AD5TH
www.ad5th.com
Deep South 2 Meter SSB Net
www.deepsouthnet.net





"John Smith" wrote in message
...
Charlie:

Bet when you started out, you would never have thought so many petty hams
existed.

All you need to do is beef up that setup a bit and smile at all the losers
here. Jealous "old women hams" of a envious and vindictive nature.

Just laugh a bit when they sit out there eating the signal off the 90 foot
beast.

Perhaps you can, once in a awhile, be kind and offer to, "Let them sit on
it!" grin

John

"Charlie" wrote in message
...
75 ft guyed tower with 21 foot mast. 2M M2 HO LOOP antenna at 95 ft. M2
2M9SSB beam antenna at 90 ft.
The difference from antennas at around 30 ft to the same antennas at
90-95 ft is astonishing. Anyone considering raising their antennas
should "just do it"

1. http://deepsouthnet.net/tower.html

I am founder and net control for the Deep South 2 Meter SSB Net located
in Union,Mississippi. Come join us 7 nights a week at 8:30PM CDT on
144.240 MHz USB. We have 10-15 or more check-ins nightly with 38 on our
All Time Total Roster and nearly 25 on our Active Roster! The net has
grown from it's first Roll Call on April 8,2005 at an amazing rate.

--

Charlie
Ham Radio - AD5TH
www.ad5th.com
Deep South 2 Meter SSB Net
www.deepsouthnet.net

Charlies typing style - Check
Supports Charlie 100% - Check
Never Posted on Net before (except 3 messages on how to post direct to
newsgroups) - Check
SAME NEWSSERVER As charlie - Check

Yep, Back to your old tricks again.
When are you going to FAKE other hams Names again.

So Mr SMITH

In your Expert Opinion, and full 100% support of Charlie, let us see
your Calculations that this thing is Safe. Im not a tower expert by
any means. But working at the Worlds largest Aircraft company as a
technical Design Engineer, I know what looks BAD. AND I have helped
put many towers up and climbed my share of towers, and I know what is
safe and what isnt. I would not go up that one for any money on earth.

Tell me what those trees can hold in upward pulling momentum from those
3 guy lines, and how that thing has not exceeded the capacity for the
trees to not eventually SNAP. Tell me how the Power pole, set in the
verticle with, will hold those three guy lines perfectly secure, while
they are pulling at it in a side and upward movement How with no
secure pins are the turnbuckles not going to give way.

The force of the tower alone in the wind and pulling on those trees is
enough to make one Queesy just to look at it. Oh and He still hasnt
answered what he plans to tell the Power company when they discover his
little field mod to thier power pole. Hell its a 200 buck fine if
they see you putting a nail in one here.

So please do tell us again Mr Smith.

Rick:

Do you know the difference between a real amateur and a goof ball
which thinks everyone wants to be an engineer?

Do you know the difference between an individual who can get along
with others and enjoys communicating with them, and them with he--as
opposed to someone which is drain on the groups energy?

Do you know the difference between someone who doesn't wish to impose
his thoughts on someone else and one who does?

Do you know the difference between someone who enjoys life and having
fun and someone just sitting their trying to look half-way intelligent
by telling everyone else what it wrong with everything in the world?

Get a real life. Look around you, it is quite apparent that people,
your neighbors and those around you will have the same opinion of you
which we form here. A leopard cannot change his spots, these social
disabilities you pack through life with you are a burden on those
around you.

Get a therapist and get some help son.

John

"Rick Scott" wrote in message
oups.com...
So Mr SMITH

In your Expert Opinion, and full 100% support of Charlie, let us see
your Calculations that this thing is Safe. Im not a tower expert by
any means. But working at the Worlds largest Aircraft company as a
technical Design Engineer, I know what looks BAD. AND I have helped
put many towers up and climbed my share of towers, and I know what
is
safe and what isnt. I would not go up that one for any money on
earth.

Tell me what those trees can hold in upward pulling momentum from
those
3 guy lines, and how that thing has not exceeded the capacity for
the
trees to not eventually SNAP. Tell me how the Power pole, set in
the
verticle with, will hold those three guy lines perfectly secure,
while
they are pulling at it in a side and upward movement How with no
secure pins are the turnbuckles not going to give way.

The force of the tower alone in the wind and pulling on those trees
is
enough to make one Queesy just to look at it. Oh and He still
hasnt
answered what he plans to tell the Power company when they discover
his
little field mod to thier power pole. Hell its a 200 buck fine if
they see you putting a nail in one here.

So please do tell us again Mr Smith.

Dear Rick (N7HJT):
Who is the subject of your message?
73, Mac N8TT
--
J. Mc Laughlin; Michigan U.S.A.
Home:
"R. Scott" wrote in message
...
Charlies typing style - Check
Supports Charlie 100% - Check
Never Posted on Net before (except 3 messages on how to post direct to
newsgroups) - Check
SAME NEWSSERVER As charlie - Check

Yep, Back to your old tricks again.
When are you going to FAKE other hams Names again.

Get a therapist and get some help son.

Typical, Rather than answer the questions on the issues at hand attack
the poster in some Veiled attempt and being superior. Sorry dont need a
therapist or help.

Charlie came here posting his tower crowing to the world about his
install and asked for opionions. When He got quite the opposite of
what he thought was glowing props he whined. And now you come in
supporting him 100% and even sound like him.


Heck you even post from exactly the same Posting site as him. Are you
RELATED?

Rick:

Get something straight here. You will NOT be telling me what to do, or
setting up little cute tricks to bait me into your game.

You can sit there like a fool and attempting all the manipulations you
care to--indeed, you can sit there till hell freezes over.

I can't believe you people, does this chit really work on other
people? Get a life!

Go find some bum on the street, perhaps he will play your game with
you for a bit of pocket change... ROFLOL!

John

"Rick Scott" wrote in message
oups.com...

Get a therapist and get some help son.

Typical, Rather than answer the questions on the issues at hand
attack
the poster in some Veiled attempt and being superior. Sorry dont
need a
therapist or help.

Charlie came here posting his tower crowing to the world about his
install and asked for opionions. When He got quite the opposite of
what he thought was glowing props he whined. And now you come in
supporting him 100% and even sound like him.


Heck you even post from exactly the same Posting site as him. Are
you
RELATED?