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There is a 3-phase transmitter feeding a 3-phase antenna via a 3-wire
transmission line. The antenna consists of three 1/4-wave horizontal radiators spaced at 120 degee intervals. Is the radiation pattern in the horizontal plane perfectly omni-directional? ---- Reg. |
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![]() Reg Edwards wrote: There is a 3-phase transmitter feeding a 3-phase antenna via a 3-wire transmission line. The antenna consists of three 1/4-wave horizontal radiators spaced at 120 degee intervals. Is the radiation pattern in the horizontal plane perfectly omni-directional? ---- Reg. Hi Reg, Is the 3-phase transmitter balanced with the output current equal magnitude, and the phase angle exactly 120 degrees? Is the 3-phase antenna fed via a 3-wire transmission line, or three equal length transmission lines? Us Amateurs don't have a lot of experience with 3-wire coax. Are the horizontal radiators 1/4-wave, or 1/2 wave? If they are 1/4 wave, or 1/2 wave and spaced 120 degrees in the horizontal plane, doesn't that form an equilateral triangle? So, you are feeding a triangular antenna whose sides are 1/4-wave in the centre of each side with balanced 3-phase rf energy? Even if you clarify this is I still won't know the answer to your question until I model the array. Gary N4AST |
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![]() wrote in message oups.com... Reg Edwards wrote: There is a 3-phase transmitter feeding a 3-phase antenna via a 3-wire transmission line. The antenna consists of three 1/4-wave horizontal radiators spaced at 120 degee intervals. Is the radiation pattern in the horizontal plane perfectly omni-directional? ---- Reg. Hi Reg, Is the 3-phase transmitter balanced with the output current equal magnitude, and the phase angle exactly 120 degrees? Is the 3-phase antenna fed via a 3-wire transmission line, or three equal length transmission lines? Us Amateurs don't have a lot of experience with 3-wire coax. Are the horizontal radiators 1/4-wave, or 1/2 wave? If they are 1/4 wave, or 1/2 wave and spaced 120 degrees in the horizontal plane, doesn't that form an equilateral triangle? So, you are feeding a triangular antenna whose sides are 1/4-wave in the centre of each side with balanced 3-phase rf energy? Even if you clarify this is I still won't know the answer to your question until I model the array. Gary N4AST ======================================= The three antenna wires are like the spokes of a wheel, spaced at 120 degrees, and each 1/4-wave in length. All in the horizontal plane. The transmission line is balanced about ground and each of the line wires is connected to one of the three antenna elements at the center of the wheel. There's no need to pull the line wires apart at the end of the line. What is the radiation pattern in the horizontal plane? Also what is the equivalent load impedance between each of the line wires. ---- Reg. |
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![]() Reg Edwards wrote: wrote in message oups.com... Reg Edwards wrote: There is a 3-phase transmitter feeding a 3-phase antenna via a 3-wire transmission line. The antenna consists of three 1/4-wave horizontal radiators spaced at 120 degee intervals. Is the radiation pattern in the horizontal plane perfectly omni-directional? ---- Reg. Hi Reg, Is the 3-phase transmitter balanced with the output current equal magnitude, and the phase angle exactly 120 degrees? Is the 3-phase antenna fed via a 3-wire transmission line, or three equal length transmission lines? Us Amateurs don't have a lot of experience with 3-wire coax. Are the horizontal radiators 1/4-wave, or 1/2 wave? If they are 1/4 wave, or 1/2 wave and spaced 120 degrees in the horizontal plane, doesn't that form an equilateral triangle? So, you are feeding a triangular antenna whose sides are 1/4-wave in the centre of each side with balanced 3-phase rf energy? Even if you clarify this is I still won't know the answer to your question until I model the array. Gary N4AST ======================================= The three antenna wires are like the spokes of a wheel, spaced at 120 degrees, and each 1/4-wave in length. All in the horizontal plane. The transmission line is balanced about ground and each of the line wires is connected to one of the three antenna elements at the center of the wheel. There's no need to pull the line wires apart at the end of the line. What is the radiation pattern in the horizontal plane? Also what is the equivalent load impedance between each of the line wires. ---- Reg. Ok, I was thinking in terms of a Delta configuration, and you were thinking of a Star Configuration. Need more time. Did you consider a Delta (triangle) configuration when you thought this up? Gary N4AST |
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I am not sure, but I have been wondering for years.
Seriously It's the old question: How do you load three guy wires? 73 H. "Reg Edwards" wrote in message ... There is a 3-phase transmitter feeding a 3-phase antenna via a 3-wire transmission line. The antenna consists of three 1/4-wave horizontal radiators spaced at 120 degee intervals. Is the radiation pattern in the horizontal plane perfectly omni-directional? ---- Reg. |
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![]() wrote in message oups.com... Reg Edwards wrote: wrote in message oups.com... Reg Edwards wrote: There is a 3-phase transmitter feeding a 3-phase antenna via a 3-wire transmission line. The antenna consists of three 1/4-wave horizontal radiators spaced at 120 degee intervals. Is the radiation pattern in the horizontal plane perfectly omni-directional? ---- Reg. Hi Reg, Is the 3-phase transmitter balanced with the output current equal magnitude, and the phase angle exactly 120 degrees? Is the 3-phase antenna fed via a 3-wire transmission line, or three equal length transmission lines? Us Amateurs don't have a lot of experience with 3-wire coax. Are the horizontal radiators 1/4-wave, or 1/2 wave? If they are 1/4 wave, or 1/2 wave and spaced 120 degrees in the horizontal plane, doesn't that form an equilateral triangle? So, you are feeding a triangular antenna whose sides are 1/4-wave in the centre of each side with balanced 3-phase rf energy? Even if you clarify this is I still won't know the answer to your question until I model the array. Gary N4AST ======================================= The three antenna wires are like the spokes of a wheel, spaced at 120 degrees, and each 1/4-wave in length. All in the horizontal plane. The transmission line is balanced about ground and each of the line wires is connected to one of the three antenna elements at the center of the wheel. There's no need to pull the line wires apart at the end of the line. What is the radiation pattern in the horizontal plane? Also what is the equivalent load impedance between each of the line wires. ---- Reg. Ok, I was thinking in terms of a Delta configuration, and you were thinking of a Star Configuration. Need more time. Did you consider a Delta (triangle) configuration when you thought this up? Gary N4AST Actually, I think it is delta connected. A Y connection would Imply half wave dipoles with their feedpoints connected between each of the three wires and the neutral point. I am holding my breath for the answer. Tam/WB2TT |
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Reg:
I do understand this correctly, and each antenna is fed a signal 120 degrees out of electrical phase with the other 2. And, the physical placement of the also happens so as to place any specific one of the three antennas 120 degrees ahead/behind the other two in a physical circle? John On Fri, 19 Aug 2005 20:21:38 +0000, Reg Edwards wrote: There is a 3-phase transmitter feeding a 3-phase antenna via a 3-wire transmission line. The antenna consists of three 1/4-wave horizontal radiators spaced at 120 degee intervals. Is the radiation pattern in the horizontal plane perfectly omni-directional? ---- Reg. |
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![]() "John Smith" wrote in message news ![]() Reg: I do understand this correctly, and each antenna is fed a signal 120 degrees out of electrical phase with the other 2. And, the physical placement of the also happens so as to place any specific one of the three antennas 120 degrees ahead/behind the other two in a physical circle? John Are these antennas fed with coax? Frank |
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Frank:
Let's hope Reg will enlighten us on the exact specifics... I am afraid it his "word problem" and he says what is and what is not... John On Sat, 20 Aug 2005 02:34:35 +0000, Frank wrote: "John Smith" wrote in message news ![]() Reg: I do understand this correctly, and each antenna is fed a signal 120 degrees out of electrical phase with the other 2. And, the physical placement of the also happens so as to place any specific one of the three antennas 120 degrees ahead/behind the other two in a physical circle? John Are these antennas fed with coax? Frank |
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![]() Just a hint: Think of how a turnstile antenna works. That one works in the horizontal plane with 90 degree phasing. Check the radiation patern. Reg Edwards wrote: There is a 3-phase transmitter feeding a 3-phase antenna via a 3-wire transmission line. The antenna consists of three 1/4-wave horizontal radiators spaced at 120 degee intervals. Is the radiation pattern in the horizontal plane perfectly omni-directional? ---- Reg. |
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