Dennis Kaylor wrote:

what i dont understand is if you guys dont like the deed restrictions
you are legally free not to sign the deed and move to another area
why should the federal government step in and tell some city or housing
community that the CONTRACT you knowingly and willing signed is worthless
you guys and your wives all want the nice classy neighborhoods and gated
communities with the fine trimmed lawns and lexus in every driveway but
you think your special cause you want to have an outside antenna
well how would you feel if your next door neighbor paintes his house the
most aful shade of slime yellow you ever saw? you would be down to the
community meeting griping your heads off so either live with the
contract your signed or move

Dear HOA's COPS,

NO, it's not time to move. It's time to get sneaky and stealthy with
your antennas, find me if you can. But there isn't a darn thing you can
do about it as long as it's not in the public's eye. By the way, my Dish
Networks dish is going up. Thank you FCC for making them LEGAL. But is
was going up regardless, just like the others have in this housing plan
with such antenna restrictions. HOA's that restricted antennas made
cable the only way your could receive any tv stations. That was illegal
from the start.

As I have said, I am moving into such a housing plan. "WE" don't own a
lexus or similar vehicle and I haven't seen one in the plan. The
majority of people there seem to be down to earth everyday nice people,
until you get to the HOA Cops, which every housing plan with HOA
restrictions of any kind has.

Normal people who reside in a nice house isn't going to paint their
house some weird color, park junk vehicles, let their grass turn to weed
or put up gigantic towers and antennas, etc..

By the way, I haven't signed any such agreement when I bought the house.
I do know that such HOA "BS" does exist just to please the people
residing there that doesn't trust their neighbors. They are the ones
that should move. "TRUST" is the word. I did some checking and the first
house sold in the plan was to a nice family (mechanic) with two
children. He/they have an immaculate looking yard and house. He is a
scanner enthusiast and has his antennas located in his attic, aside from
his dish which is located on the back of roof.

Where there's a will there is a way.

"God Bless America" for the freedoms we still have.

Have a positive day.

wrote in message ...
What Ed is saying is: If you enjoy a hobby that requires an antenna or
anything outside your home forget it, buckle down to raising fish and
sell the radio hobby stuff.

That will be the day I turn my home over the HOA Cops, agreement or not.
If homeowners keep buckling down to these people next thing you will be
paying their mortgage and taxes.

Go Bless America for the freedoms our proud veterans fought for.


A very good example of the viewpoint of a rogue who tries to cloak her
improprieties in the blood of patriots and the silk of religion.

The fundamental civility of our society is based on our ability to enter
into contracts. We promise something and the other party promises something.
A contract is simply a permanent record of the defined promises. You are
expected to uphold your promises.

What I am saying is quite simple; if you don't like the terms of a contract,
then don't enter into it.

Ed
WB6WSN

"Dwight Stewart" wrote in message
hlink.net...
"Ed Price" wrote:

Read the rest of the ruling. It defines that the
antenna may be located only in your private
area (patio, balcony), not in the public or
mutually owned areas (roof, outside wall).
This makes it none too helpful for apartment
and condo dwellers. Accept it; there are
some hobbies that are incompatible with
high-density dwellings.


How does that chance anything I said, Ed? I said nothing about apartment
and condo dwellers, and nothing about antenna location.


Dwight Stewart (W5NET)

http://www.qsl.net/w5net/




It doesn't change anything you said. I posted my comments to amplify and
clarify your (and earlier poster's) comments, not as a refutation. Try not
to view everything as a challenge.

Ed
WB6WSN

Normal people who reside in a nice house isn't going to paint their
house some weird color, park junk vehicles, let their grass turn to weed
or put up gigantic towers and antennas, etc..


Hams are not normal people, they want gigantic towers and antennas.

That is right .... put up the bigest antenna as high as you can get it.
If it stays up more than 6 months then it was not big or high enough!

Willee


"Ralph Mowery" wrote in message
...
Normal people who reside in a nice house isn't going to paint their
house some weird color, park junk vehicles, let their grass turn to weed
or put up gigantic towers and antennas, etc..


Hams are not normal people, they want gigantic towers and antennas.

Ralph Mowery wrote:

Normal people who reside in a nice house isn't going to paint their
house some weird color, park junk vehicles, let their grass turn to weed
or put up gigantic towers and antennas, etc..


Hams are not normal people, they want gigantic towers and antennas.

Ralph, just what is your ham call???

"Dennis Kaylor" wrote:

what i dont understand is if you guys
dont like the deed restrictions you are
legally free not to sign the deed and
move to another area why should the
federal government step in and tell
some city or housing community that
the CONTRACT you knowingly
and willing signed is worthless (snip)


Dennis, either you don't live in a town like this or CC&Rs simply haven't
reached your community yet. The major industry in this town is tourism.
Because of that, any house built within the last twenty years has a CC&R
antenna restriction. Even worse, real estate agencies, hoping to cash in on
the tourist trade, have purchased most of the older properties, adding CC&Rs
antenna restrictions to those. At this point, unless one is willing to move
twenty to thirty miles outside the area, CC&Rs antenna restrictions have
become an almost inescapable fact of life. Perhaps you consider that
acceptable. However, I don't happen to think people should have to move
miles away from work, schools, or shopping, just to have an antenna. And,
indeed, many people are not going to do so - which means they will simply
have to give up radio as a hobby or recreation instead.


you guys and your wives all want the
nice classy neighborhoods and gated
communities with the fine trimmed lawns
and lexus in every driveway but you
think your special cause you want to
have an outside antenna (snip)


Obviously CC&R antenna restrictions haven't reached your community yet.
We're not just talking about gated communities or luxury properties. In this
area, these restrictions can be found on even the cheapest properties.


Dwight Stewart (W5NET)

http://www.qsl.net/w5net/

"Ed Price" wrote:

It doesn't change anything you said. I posted
my comments to amplify and clarify your (and
earlier poster's) comments, not as a refutation.
Try not to view everything as a challenge.


Perhaps I did respond defensively, but your "read the rest of the ruling"
comment suggested there was something in the rest of the ruling which should
have my attention (a conflict with what I wrote, perhaps). But, as stated, I
saw no conflict (or anything else that would specifically modify what I
wrote). Regardless, no big deal - a simple misunderstanding. It happens.


Dwight Stewart (W5NET)

http://www.qsl.net/w5net/

Ralph Mowery wrote:

Normal people who reside in a nice house isn't going to paint their
house some weird color, park junk vehicles, let their grass turn to
weed
or put up gigantic towers and antennas, etc..


Hams are not normal people, they want gigantic towers and antennas.

Ralph, just what is your ham call???

KU4PT and I have been a ham for over 30 years.

I don't have a gigantic tower beacuse I am on a small lot and also don't
have the money to put up one like I would like to have. I do have a 40 foot
tower and also a shorter ,maybe about 12 ot 15 feet, with my OSCAR antennas
on them. I just installed two more 20 feet towers with a 10 foot pipe on
them about 140 feet apart to hold up an 80 meter dipole. No trees so to
speak of in the yard.

Anytime I hear that statement I just right of the person saying it as an
idiot. I haven't been wrong on that one yet.


"WilleeCue" wrote in message
.. .
The great American spoof is "home ownership".
If you ever think you really "own" your home just stop paying money for it
and see what happens!