I have a Alpha Delta DX-A 40 80 and 160 antenna, feed point
is up 35 ft. I an comparing it to a W9INN 40 80 160 and it's only up
28ft.

My question is when running a ballun as the W9INN antenna does.
Can it be hung right to the tower leg or should it be on a stand off.
To keep it away from the tower legs buy 3 ft.

The Alpha Delta DX-A wants to be hooked right to the tower leg.


There seems to be no difference between the both antennas
with the exception the W9INN antenna is set more to the middle of the
phone band for 40 80 and 160 were the Delta A is not .

TNX for any input.

Steve

"Steve" wrote in message
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I have a Alpha Delta DX-A 40 80 and 160 antenna, feed point
is up 35 ft. I an comparing it to a W9INN 40 80 160 and it's only up
28ft.

My question is when running a ballun as the W9INN antenna does.
Can it be hung right to the tower leg or should it be on a stand off.
To keep it away from the tower legs buy 3 ft.

The Alpha Delta DX-A wants to be hooked right to the tower leg.


There seems to be no difference between the both antennas
with the exception the W9INN antenna is set more to the middle of the
phone band for 40 80 and 160 were the Delta A is not .

TNX for any input.

Steve

Steve -

When I used a push up tower for my inverted V ... I used a stand-off similar
to the IIX SO-1 standoff bracket -- to get the antenna away from the push up
pole and another tower.

IIX Equipment has pre-made assemblies that will work with most towers.
http://www.w9iix.com/ii00025.htm

http://www.w9iix.com/ii00012.htm

w9gb

Steve wrote:
I have a Alpha Delta DX-A 40 80 and 160 antenna, feed point
is up 35 ft. I an comparing it to a W9INN 40 80 160 and it's only up
28ft.

My question is when running a ballun as the W9INN antenna does.
Can it be hung right to the tower leg or should it be on a stand off.
To keep it away from the tower legs buy 3 ft.

The Alpha Delta DX-A wants to be hooked right to the tower leg.


There seems to be no difference between the both antennas
with the exception the W9INN antenna is set more to the middle of the
phone band for 40 80 and 160 were the Delta A is not .

TNX for any input.

Steve




Are you saying the INN works better than the DX-A?

"BillJ" wrote in message
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Steve wrote:
I have a Alpha Delta DX-A 40 80 and 160 antenna, feed point
is up 35 ft. I an comparing it to a W9INN 40 80 160 and it's only up
28ft.

My question is when running a ballun as the W9INN antenna does.
Can it be hung right to the tower leg or should it be on a stand off.
To keep it away from the tower legs buy 3 ft.

The Alpha Delta DX-A wants to be hooked right to the tower leg.


There seems to be no difference between the both antennas
with the exception the W9INN antenna is set more to the middle of the
phone band for 40 80 and 160 were the Delta A is not .

TNX for any input.

Steve


Are you saying the INN works better than the DX-A?



The INN is a lot easer to tune for band. But for signal reports
they both seem the same. I had a friend follow me around to all bands
to compare and they both seemed the same.

My question was about the feed point. Should it be on a stand off
on the tower to get the balun away from the tower ?

Steve

If you listen around the bands you hear talk about the INN wire
antenna. You can't get them anymore because the guy passed away.

"Steve" wrote in message
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"BillJ" wrote in message
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Steve wrote:
I have a Alpha Delta DX-A 40 80 and 160 antenna, feed point
is up 35 ft. I an comparing it to a W9INN 40 80 160 and it's only up
28ft.

My question is when running a ballun as the W9INN antenna does.
Can it be hung right to the tower leg or should it be on a stand off.
To keep it away from the tower legs buy 3 ft.

The Alpha Delta DX-A wants to be hooked right to the tower leg.


There seems to be no difference between the both antennas
with the exception the W9INN antenna is set more to the middle of the
phone band for 40 80 and 160 were the Delta A is not .

TNX for any input.

Steve


Are you saying the INN works better than the DX-A?

The INN is a lot easer to tune for band. But for signal reports
they both seem the same. I had a friend follow me around to all bands
to compare and they both seemed the same.

My question was about the feed point. Should it be on a stand off
on the tower to get the balun away from the tower ?

Steve

If you listen around the bands you hear talk about the INN wire
antenna. You can't get them anymore because the guy passed away.

"The Guy" (W9INN) was William E. "Bill" Fanckboner, W9INN, of Mt Prospect,
Illinois, about 10 miles north of my QTH.

Bill was the sole proprietor of W9INN Antennas and died July 30, 2004. He
was 80.
His daughter, Robin Randall, shortly after this death decided that the W9INN
Antenna business would die with him. "Dad did all of the work by himself, so
it is effectively out of business, he was the business." "He was working
full time until a week prior to his death".
Refunds were mailed to those amateurs with existing orders.

A long-time ARRL member and supporter, Fanckboner turned his talents for
radio and electronics into W9INN Antennas some three decades ago after
working for Motorola, and he was a regular QST advertiser.
Fanckboner designed and hand-built custom antennas, including the MPD-5C-78,
MPD-2 and MDX-8C "hideaway" dipoles, and, his daughter says, Fanckboner
enjoyed a reputation within the amateur community for skilled workmanship
and a friendly, helpful manner. A memorial service was held August 9, 2004.
The family invites interested customers that memorial donations may be sent
to the American Cancer Society in his name.

gb

Still no input on my question. The feed point at the balun. should it be
off the tower on a stand off
or is it ok to just hang it off a leg of the tower.

"Guess Someone is upset " The Guy Bill" Witch never knew so the Guy or ham
is what i call him.
If you knew him then Bill to you.

Steve


"gb" wrote in message
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"Steve" wrote in message
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"BillJ" wrote in message
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Steve wrote:
I have a Alpha Delta DX-A 40 80 and 160 antenna, feed point
is up 35 ft. I an comparing it to a W9INN 40 80 160 and it's only up
28ft.

My question is when running a ballun as the W9INN antenna does.
Can it be hung right to the tower leg or should it be on a stand off.
To keep it away from the tower legs buy 3 ft.

The Alpha Delta DX-A wants to be hooked right to the tower leg.


There seems to be no difference between the both antennas
with the exception the W9INN antenna is set more to the middle of the
phone band for 40 80 and 160 were the Delta A is not .

TNX for any input.

Steve


Are you saying the INN works better than the DX-A?

The INN is a lot easer to tune for band. But for signal reports
they both seem the same. I had a friend follow me around to all bands
to compare and they both seemed the same.

My question was about the feed point. Should it be on a stand off
on the tower to get the balun away from the tower ?

Steve

If you listen around the bands you hear talk about the INN wire
antenna. You can't get them anymore because the guy passed away.

"The Guy" (W9INN) was William E. "Bill" Fanckboner, W9INN, of Mt Prospect,
Illinois, about 10 miles north of my QTH.

Bill was the sole proprietor of W9INN Antennas and died July 30, 2004. He
was 80.
His daughter, Robin Randall, shortly after this death decided that the
W9INN Antenna business would die with him. "Dad did all of the work by
himself, so it is effectively out of business, he was the business." "He
was working full time until a week prior to his death".
Refunds were mailed to those amateurs with existing orders.

A long-time ARRL member and supporter, Fanckboner turned his talents for
radio and electronics into W9INN Antennas some three decades ago after
working for Motorola, and he was a regular QST advertiser.
Fanckboner designed and hand-built custom antennas, including the
MPD-5C-78, MPD-2 and MDX-8C "hideaway" dipoles, and, his daughter says,
Fanckboner enjoyed a reputation within the amateur community for skilled
workmanship and a friendly, helpful manner. A memorial service was held
August 9, 2004.
The family invites interested customers that memorial donations may be
sent to the American Cancer Society in his name.

gb

Steve wrote:
Still no input on my question. The feed point at the balun. should it be
off the tower on a stand off or is it ok to just hang it off a leg of the tower.

Is the balun mounted in an aluminum enclosure? If so, it's probably OK
to fasten it to the tower assuming the tower is not RF 'hot'.
--
73, Cecil http://www.qsl.net/w5dxp

It's a W2AU Balun that came with the antenna. I took a pulley and attached
it to the tower and then
took a line and attached it to the Balun so i could raze and lower it for
adjustments.

So the Balun is about a foot away from the tower.

It seems to tune ok all readings are below 2.1 on center freq on phone bands
on 40 80 160.

Just wonder if it's hearting the transmitting.

Thanks for the input..

Steve


"Cecil Moore" wrote in message
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Steve wrote:
Still no input on my question. The feed point at the balun. should it be
off the tower on a stand off or is it ok to just hang it off a leg of the
tower.

Is the balun mounted in an aluminum enclosure? If so, it's probably OK
to fasten it to the tower assuming the tower is not RF 'hot'.
--
73, Cecil http://www.qsl.net/w5dxp

Steve wrote:
It's a W2AU Balun that came with the antenna. I took a pulley and attached
it to the tower and then
took a line and attached it to the Balun so i could raze and lower it for
adjustments.

So the Balun is about a foot away from the tower.

It seems to tune ok all readings are below 2.1 on center freq on phone bands
on 40 80 160.

Just wonder if it's hearting the transmitting.

Thanks for the input..

It's fine. I don't think it is "hearting" the transmitter; or hurting
it either. :-)

In article ,
"Steve" wrote:

My question is when running a ballun as the W9INN antenna does.
Can it be hung right to the tower leg or should it be on a stand off.
To keep it away from the tower legs buy 3

Steve,

I have been using a W9INN antenna system for years and I don't think
Bill (w9inn now SK) ever sold an antenna with a balun. His antennas
came with a balun looking device that was just a center insulator.

FYI, I have my W9INN 80/40 dipole mounted on a 1 foot stand off with
cord and pulley arrangement for easy adjustments. I modified the
antenna by adding extra wire sets for the WARC bands and it now should
be called a fan dipole in a Vee configuration.

It has always performed well and we are all going to miss Bill, W9INN.
I recalled years ago working Bill on 40 meters and he said I was the
first person he had ever really worked on the air using one of his
antennas.

73 Dick AA5VU