I'm afraid we can expect more and more of this as time goes on.


SC

Radio Buff wrote:

I'm afraid we can expect more and more of this as time goes on.


SC

GOAT

"Tom Ring" wrote in message
.. .
Radio Buff wrote:

I'm afraid we can expect more and more of this as time goes on.


SC

GOAT


It's actually a good thing when folks come over from "the Dark Side". When
new to Hamdom it's almost certain they'll slip up and occasionally use their
old "jargon". When they correct themselves it's also a good thing, since it
means they are aware of their faux pas and are working at improving their
operating procedure and language.

Harold
KD5SAK

kd5sak wrote:
"Tom Ring" wrote in message
.. .
Radio Buff wrote:

I'm afraid we can expect more and more of this as time goes on.


SC
GOAT


It's actually a good thing when folks come over from "the Dark Side". When
new to Hamdom it's almost certain they'll slip up and occasionally use their
old "jargon". When they correct themselves it's also a good thing, since it
means they are aware of their faux pas and are working at improving their
operating procedure and language.

newsgroups trimmed...

I don't care how people talk, as long as it is in civil fashion. (with
one exception)

But it strikes me odd that people who would *speak* such terms as
"73's", "QSL", and others, not to mention my all time favorite, "HI
HI", do not have much of an argument when they complain about a person
referring to S-units as "pounds".......


For cryin out loud, if its funny , LAUGH, don't say HI HI!


- 73 de Mike KB3EIA - ;^)

I read the title and thought "awesome!"

I agree with KD5SAK. This guy is trying to fit in. This is how ham
radio works for most new licensees, and it doesn't matter if there's a
CW test or not, if the exams are multiple choice or not. They want to
pick up the mannerisms and operating practices of HAMS just as, when
they were on CB, they used the mannerisms and operating practices of
CB'ers.

Get on the air and operate and be a good example for the newly
licensed. If they give you a signal report of "nine pounds" give them
a "5 by 9"

Eventually the CB jargon will get replaced by ham jargon. Eventually
the CB behavior will get replaced by ham behavior. Like building and
analyzing antennas! And talking about them on the antenna newsgroups!
And not going off topic! And being at fault for off topic posting even
though I knew I should resist but it's such a tempting topic, and...

73 (no 'S!)
Dan
N3OX

"Michael Coslo" wrote in message
...
kd5sak wrote:
"Tom Ring" wrote in message
.. .
Radio Buff wrote:

For cryin out loud, if its funny , LAUGH, don't say HI HI!


- 73 de Mike KB3EIA - ;^)


Newbie that I am(Tech, early 2003 and General, mid 2005) , I agree. And as
far as Hi Hi goes, I always figured the early first users of the term
probably meant for it to be read Hee Hee rather than High High. Again, as a
newbie, I profess no great insight, I just express an opinon. I don't use
either the 73 or the Hi Hi in QSOs or EMails, it strikes me as an
affectation, but that may just be my newbie insecurity speaking.(g)

Harold
KD5SAK

kd5sak wrote:

SNIPPED

Newbie that I am(Tech, early 2003 and General, mid 2005) , I agree. And as
far as Hi Hi goes, I always figured the early first users of the term
probably meant for it to be read Hee Hee rather than High High. Again, as a
newbie, I profess no great insight, I just express an opinon. I don't use
either the 73 or the Hi Hi in QSOs or EMails, it strikes me as an
affectation, but that may just be my newbie insecurity speaking.(g)

Harold
KD5SAK



HI HI .... .. .... .. is, please forgive the reference to a hot topic,
laughter when operating MORSE CODE [there I said it!!].

73, ---.. ...--, is BEST REGARDS in the same ridiculed transmission.
mode.

If we are going to drop the talent for MORSE CODE we should be 100%
logical and stop using acronyms that have meaning that are rooted in
MORSE CODE such as:

QRL, QSO, CQ, QRM, QRN, QSB, QSY, QLF, QRS, 73, 88, HI, GD, GE, GM, TNX,
DX, etc.

We should delete reference to RST on our confirmation cards [NOT QSL
card]. We should delete GS and use DOLLARS.

Would someone start a petition to the ARRL that advocates that we should
clean up our act?

ORIGINAL MESSAGE:

On Tue, 09 May 2006 09:20:33 -0400, Michael Coslo
wrote:

do not have much of an argument when they complain about a person
referring to S-units as "pounds".......


*********** REPLY SEPARATOR ***********

Couldn't agree more. Everybody knows S-units are metric. :-)

Bill, W6WRT

Dave wrote:
kd5sak wrote:

SNIPPED


Newbie that I am(Tech, early 2003 and General, mid 2005) , I agree.
And as far as Hi Hi goes, I always figured the early first users of
the term probably meant for it to be read Hee Hee rather than High
High. Again, as a newbie, I profess no great insight, I just express
an opinon. I don't use either the 73 or the Hi Hi in QSOs or EMails,
it strikes me as an affectation, but that may just be my newbie
insecurity speaking.(g)

Harold
KD5SAK


HI HI .... .. .... .. is, please forgive the reference to a hot topic,
laughter when operating MORSE CODE [there I said it!!].

73, ---.. ...--, is BEST REGARDS in the same ridiculed transmission.
mode.

If we are going to drop the talent for MORSE CODE we should be 100%
logical and stop using acronyms that have meaning that are rooted in
MORSE CODE such as:

QRL, QSO, CQ, QRM, QRN, QSB, QSY, QLF, QRS, 73, 88, HI, GD, GE, GM, TNX,
DX, etc.

We should delete reference to RST on our confirmation cards [NOT QSL
card]. We should delete GS and use DOLLARS.

Would someone start a petition to the ARRL that advocates that we should
clean up our act?


I suppose there are many "affectations" like OM, or Old Man and FB, or
Fine Business. Just to add to the list.

All appear to be derived from CW operations.

I think they're great.

Nothing, especially jargon, is unchanging. I suspect some CB jargon
could bleed over. I must say that "nine pounds" won't be used by me,
however.

John
AB8WH

"kd5sak" wrote in
om:


"Tom Ring" wrote in message
.. .
Radio Buff wrote:

I'm afraid we can expect more and more of this as time goes on.


SC

GOAT


It's actually a good thing when folks come over from "the Dark Side".
When new to Hamdom it's almost certain they'll slip up and occasionally
use their old "jargon". When they correct themselves it's also a good
thing, since it means they are aware of their faux pas and are working
at improving their operating procedure and language.

Harold
KD5SAK


I chalked it up to a new op happy about working a new state. I remember
having the same feelings he had when I was first licensed. I worked all
states on CW before I ever made a voice contact because Novices weren't
allowed phone priviledges when I got licensed. It was a blast and helped
my code speed so I could upgrade to general with little effort.

My problem, a lot of new ops aren't leaving old CB operating practices
behind. That is what will destroy ham radio, The CB like behavior.

It must be human nature, when you get something for nothing, you don't
appreciate it as much, or try to take care of it the same as something you
had to work for. That's why dumbing down ham tests is bad. Having a
license doesn't mean anything.