On Sun, 30 Dec 2007 11:07:56 -0500, Chuck Harris
wrote:

Antonio Iovane wrote:

The only smoke here appears to be from some ancient ham's cigarette.

Just a thought,

-Chuck

Just another thought.
First, why not to specify in the listing that the pictures are not of
the actual listed item?
Further but less important, I see it is unlikely that an elderly ham,
who has enough practice to sell on ebay, is able to copy and past, and
probably would try to sell other stuff too, might not have a digital
camera.
Antonio I8IOV

Cutting and pasting is trivial on most modern operating systems. So much
so that kids in 1st grade do it, and think it is ok to copy anything that
way.

I still see auctions that have no pictures whatsoever. I agree that the
seller should have identified where the pictures came from, but I have
bought things on ebay that had "found" pictures without identification,
and was not unpleased with the result.

Not everything that seems suspicious is the result of treachery.

However the claims go much farther than this example. IF the photo is
listed as showing the actual item for sale but has been "borrowed"
and shows the interior of an entirely different piece of equipment
wouldn't that be "suspicions confirmed?"

Roger


-Chuck

Roger (K8RI) wrote:
On Sun, 30 Dec 2007 11:07:56 -0500, Chuck Harris
....

Not everything that seems suspicious is the result of treachery.

However the claims go much farther than this example. IF the photo is
listed as showing the actual item for sale but has been "borrowed"
and shows the interior of an entirely different piece of equipment
wouldn't that be "suspicions confirmed?"

Yes. Is that what is being claimed?

-Chuck

D Peter Maus wrote:
Chuck - K1KW wrote:
Has anyone contacted Rick Mish to get the real story?

According to the description in the orginal auction where the crook Martyn
bought it under the "gottahaveit" ID, the seller only said Rick "checked it
out, or went over it" That's a bit different than a refurburshing I've seen
Rick do. In fact the closeups of the receiver show that Rick probably
didn't do his normal excellent job and all he did was check it out.

It's the outrageous BS that Martyn the crook attaches to his auctions that
is amazing...and suckers fall for it all the time. The guy is an out right
liar and a fraud. His description of this receiver is so wrong in a number
of areas!

Ebay doesn't care since they still collect fees from him AND Ebay is
passive participant in his fraud since it has been documented and reported
numerous times.



Your original point is well made. Rick Mish should be contacted to
verify if Martyn's claims are true.

If Martyn is trading off Rick's reputation and the work is NOT as
described, Mish can legally have Martyn's ass for fraud,
misrepresentation of Mish's work, harm to his reputation, and
profiteering on Rick's name without permission.

Then have Rick contact eBay about trading on his reputation without
permission.

THAT will get the job done.

Suing Radio-Marty for misrepresentation would be like suing the
retarted kid at the playground because he mumbles incoherent stuff
about you. Nothing against retarted kids, sorry to compare them with
Marty! But a not particularly useful experience for a well-respected
professional to to one-up a retarded kid.

Tim.

Tim Shoppa wrote:
D Peter Maus wrote:
Chuck - K1KW wrote:
Has anyone contacted Rick Mish to get the real story?

According to the description in the orginal auction where the crook Martyn
bought it under the "gottahaveit" ID, the seller only said Rick "checked it
out, or went over it" That's a bit different than a refurburshing I've seen
Rick do. In fact the closeups of the receiver show that Rick probably
didn't do his normal excellent job and all he did was check it out.

It's the outrageous BS that Martyn the crook attaches to his auctions that
is amazing...and suckers fall for it all the time. The guy is an out right
liar and a fraud. His description of this receiver is so wrong in a number
of areas!

Ebay doesn't care since they still collect fees from him AND Ebay is
passive participant in his fraud since it has been documented and reported
numerous times.


Your original point is well made. Rick Mish should be contacted to
verify if Martyn's claims are true.

If Martyn is trading off Rick's reputation and the work is NOT as
described, Mish can legally have Martyn's ass for fraud,
misrepresentation of Mish's work, harm to his reputation, and
profiteering on Rick's name without permission.

Then have Rick contact eBay about trading on his reputation without
permission.

THAT will get the job done.

Suing Radio-Marty for misrepresentation would be like suing the
retarted kid at the playground because he mumbles incoherent stuff
about you. Nothing against retarted kids, sorry to compare them with
Marty! But a not particularly useful experience for a well-respected
professional to to one-up a retarded kid.

Tim.


Actually, it happens every day. On the private and the corporate
level. Someone trading on another's reputation, is serious enough in
itself. Misrepresenting products in another's name can have long term
consequences to the business and personal reputation of the person who's
reputation his being traded upon.

Litigation, as distasteful as it may seem, is the only way to
minimize that kind of damage.

Often, however, the process never makes it to a courtroom. Once an
action is filed, settlements often happen quickly.

On 1/1/08 9:27 AM, in article
, "Tim
Shoppa" wrote:

D Peter Maus wrote:
Chuck - K1KW wrote:
Has anyone contacted Rick Mish to get the real story?

According to the description in the orginal auction where the crook Martyn
bought it under the "gottahaveit" ID, the seller only said Rick "checked it
out, or went over it" That's a bit different than a refurburshing I've seen
Rick do. In fact the closeups of the receiver show that Rick probably
didn't do his normal excellent job and all he did was check it out.

It's the outrageous BS that Martyn the crook attaches to his auctions that
is amazing...and suckers fall for it all the time. The guy is an out right
liar and a fraud. His description of this receiver is so wrong in a number
of areas!

Ebay doesn't care since they still collect fees from him AND Ebay is
passive participant in his fraud since it has been documented and reported
numerous times.



Your original point is well made. Rick Mish should be contacted to
verify if Martyn's claims are true.

If Martyn is trading off Rick's reputation and the work is NOT as
described, Mish can legally have Martyn's ass for fraud,
misrepresentation of Mish's work, harm to his reputation, and
profiteering on Rick's name without permission.

Then have Rick contact eBay about trading on his reputation without
permission.

THAT will get the job done.

Suing Radio-Marty for misrepresentation would be like suing the
retarted kid at the playground because he mumbles incoherent stuff
about you. Nothing against retarted kids, sorry to compare them with
Marty! But a not particularly useful experience for a well-respected
professional to to one-up a retarded kid.

Tim.

Why do you see it that way instead of seeing RadioMart as a calculating
predator? Do you have any personal or business relationship to him?

Don Bowey wrote:
On 1/1/08 9:27 AM, in article
, "Tim
Shoppa" wrote:

D Peter Maus wrote:
Chuck - K1KW wrote:
Has anyone contacted Rick Mish to get the real story?

According to the description in the orginal auction where the crook Martyn
bought it under the "gottahaveit" ID, the seller only said Rick "checked it
out, or went over it" That's a bit different than a refurburshing I've seen
Rick do. In fact the closeups of the receiver show that Rick probably
didn't do his normal excellent job and all he did was check it out.

It's the outrageous BS that Martyn the crook attaches to his auctions that
is amazing...and suckers fall for it all the time. The guy is an out right
liar and a fraud. His description of this receiver is so wrong in a number
of areas!

Ebay doesn't care since they still collect fees from him AND Ebay is
passive participant in his fraud since it has been documented and reported
numerous times.



Your original point is well made. Rick Mish should be contacted to
verify if Martyn's claims are true.

If Martyn is trading off Rick's reputation and the work is NOT as
described, Mish can legally have Martyn's ass for fraud,
misrepresentation of Mish's work, harm to his reputation, and
profiteering on Rick's name without permission.

Then have Rick contact eBay about trading on his reputation without
permission.

THAT will get the job done.

Suing Radio-Marty for misrepresentation would be like suing the
retarted kid at the playground because he mumbles incoherent stuff
about you. Nothing against retarted kids, sorry to compare them with
Marty! But a not particularly useful experience for a well-respected
professional to to one-up a retarded kid.

Tim.

Why do you see it that way instead of seeing RadioMart as a calculating
predator? Do you have any personal or business relationship to him?

I have canceled bids in the past by "gottahaveit(whatever)" on items I
had for sale, after I figured out it was him. Selling a radio to him
would be about as bright as selling a gun to the retarded kid at the
playground.

It just isn't worth it. If he were a professional predator, I might
devote some effort other than just canceling his bids. But that's not
what I see him as. Do you think I'm giving him too much credit, or too
little? Probably too much if I bother to type about him here!

Tim Shoppa wrote:
Don Bowey wrote:
On 1/1/08 9:27 AM, in article
, "Tim
Shoppa" wrote:

D Peter Maus wrote:
Chuck - K1KW wrote:
Has anyone contacted Rick Mish to get the real story?

According to the description in the orginal auction where the crook Martyn
bought it under the "gottahaveit" ID, the seller only said Rick "checked it
out, or went over it" That's a bit different than a refurburshing I've seen
Rick do. In fact the closeups of the receiver show that Rick probably
didn't do his normal excellent job and all he did was check it out.

It's the outrageous BS that Martyn the crook attaches to his auctions that
is amazing...and suckers fall for it all the time. The guy is an out right
liar and a fraud. His description of this receiver is so wrong in a number
of areas!

Ebay doesn't care since they still collect fees from him AND Ebay is
passive participant in his fraud since it has been documented and reported
numerous times.



Your original point is well made. Rick Mish should be contacted to
verify if Martyn's claims are true.

If Martyn is trading off Rick's reputation and the work is NOT as
described, Mish can legally have Martyn's ass for fraud,
misrepresentation of Mish's work, harm to his reputation, and
profiteering on Rick's name without permission.

Then have Rick contact eBay about trading on his reputation without
permission.

THAT will get the job done.

Suing Radio-Marty for misrepresentation would be like suing the
retarted kid at the playground because he mumbles incoherent stuff
about you. Nothing against retarted kids, sorry to compare them with
Marty! But a not particularly useful experience for a well-respected
professional to to one-up a retarded kid.

Tim.

Why do you see it that way instead of seeing RadioMart as a calculating
predator? Do you have any personal or business relationship to him?

I have canceled bids in the past by "gottahaveit(whatever)" on items I
had for sale, after I figured out it was him. Selling a radio to him
would be about as bright as selling a gun to the retarded kid at the
playground.

It just isn't worth it. If he were a professional predator, I might
devote some effort other than just canceling his bids. But that's not
what I see him as. Do you think I'm giving him too much credit, or too
little? Probably too much if I bother to type about him here!

OMFG. I just looked under "radio-mart" on Ebay and this guy is not the
small-timer he was a couple years back. He's got 88 auctions going on
just for radios! I believe I will have to re-align my opinions in the
near future... not sure where they'll fall but it's clear that he is
not the retarded kid on the playground he used to be. He's more like
the retarded kingpin of the ****ing mafia!

Tim.

"Tommy D" wrote in message
...

I have canceled bids in the past by "gottahaveit(whatever)" on items I
had for sale, after I figured out it was him. Selling a radio to him
would be about as bright as selling a gun to the retarded kid at the
playground.

It just isn't worth it. If he were a professional predator, I might
devote some effort other than just canceling his bids. But that's not
what I see him as. Do you think I'm giving him too much credit, or too
little? Probably too much if I bother to type about him here!

OMFG. I just looked under "radio-mart" on Ebay and this guy is not the
small-timer he was a couple years back. He's got 88 auctions going on
just for radios! I believe I will have to re-align my opinions in the
near future... not sure where they'll fall but it's clear that he is
not the retarded kid on the playground he used to be. He's more like
the retarded kingpin of the ****ing mafia!

Tim.



You know Tim, I have a child who is autistic and mentally retarded.
It would be nice if you would think of a better analogy to use instead
of picking on people who have no choice of their destiny in life.



I have a brother that is mentally handicapped and the best way to deal with
people that offend them is to not let it offend you. Most people don't mean
to offend and I don't think Tim was trying to be mean, although the analogy
was tasteless. Our love for the handicapped people in our lives shouldn't
make us hyper sensitive trying to protect them and the real aholes that say
stuff to be mean are lonely pathetic souls with bigger issues than any
handicapped person we'll ever know.

BH

On Jan 1, 10:38*pm, "Brian Hill" wrote:
"Tommy D" wrote in message
You know Tim, I have a child who is autistic and mentally retarded.
It would be nice if you would think of a better analogy to use instead
of picking on people who have no choice of their destiny in life.

I have a brother that is mentally handicapped and the best way to deal with
people that offend them is to not let it offend you. Most people don't mean
to offend and I don't think Tim was trying to be mean, although the analogy
was tasteless. Our love for the handicapped people in our lives shouldn't
make us hyper sensitive trying to protect them and the real aholes that say
stuff to be mean are lonely pathetic souls with bigger issues than any
handicapped person we'll ever know.

BH- Hide quoted text -

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Brian, your ability to bite your tongue speaks to your unusual self-
discipline, but I didn't read Tom's mild comment as anything more than
a polite reminder that there are other and better ways to make a
point. He didn't wail about how offended he was, or lash out at Tim or
call him names. My wife worked with retarded kids for many years--it
galls us when we hear kids call each other "retard" or say "that was
retarded." Our own son did it when he got to middle-school age. An
occasional calm heads-up like Tom's is fine in my book.

"Avery W3AVE" wrote in message
...
On Jan 1, 10:38 pm, "Brian Hill" wrote:
"Tommy D" wrote in message
You know Tim, I have a child who is autistic and mentally retarded.
It would be nice if you would think of a better analogy to use instead
of picking on people who have no choice of their destiny in life.

I have a brother that is mentally handicapped and the best way to deal
with
people that offend them is to not let it offend you. Most people don't
mean
to offend and I don't think Tim was trying to be mean, although the
analogy
was tasteless. Our love for the handicapped people in our lives shouldn't
make us hyper sensitive trying to protect them and the real aholes that
say
stuff to be mean are lonely pathetic souls with bigger issues than any
handicapped person we'll ever know.

BH- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Brian, your ability to bite your tongue speaks to your unusual self-
discipline, but I didn't read Tom's mild comment as anything more than
a polite reminder that there are other and better ways to make a
point. He didn't wail about how offended he was, or lash out at Tim or
call him names. My wife worked with retarded kids for many years--it
galls us when we hear kids call each other "retard" or say "that was
retarded." Our own son did it when he got to middle-school age. An
occasional calm heads-up like Tom's is fine in my book.

I agree 100% and I'm not trying to scold anyone. All I'm saying is, It can
really give you a workout dealing with peoples statements and behavior on
the subject. I can't count the trouble, arguments and scraps I got into as a
young man trying to protect my brother and one day he said " Brother don't
let it bother you soo much, it doesn't bother me. I've leaned to accept
myself and others who are differant and they haven't. We need to set the
example for them." My brother is border line autistic and he's like a kid
in some ways and a genius in other ways. I've learned a lot from him.

BH

BH