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On Feb 18, 10:16*pm, Bill M wrote:
Its a real gripe of mine! *The image rejection is so poor on the top band of many consumer grade radios that its really a moot point and the only way to guess which side the injection goes is by evaluating which side suffers the worse dial tracking...and often thats so close a call its difficult to say which was intended. I had this exact problem with the Hallicrafters 5R10A. With my signal generator set to 30 MHz, the image at 30.91 MHz was maybe 1 dB lower. However, when I set my generator to 15 MHz (the low end of Band 4), the image at 15.91 MHz was much less noticeable. So, the set is a reasonably good performer so long as you avoid using the high end of Band 4. -Dave Drumheller, K3WQ |
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![]() wrote in message ... On Feb 18, 10:16 pm, Bill M wrote: Its a real gripe of mine! The image rejection is so poor on the top band of many consumer grade radios that its really a moot point and the only way to guess which side the injection goes is by evaluating which side suffers the worse dial tracking...and often thats so close a call its difficult to say which was intended. I had this exact problem with the Hallicrafters 5R10A. With my signal generator set to 30 MHz, the image at 30.91 MHz was maybe 1 dB lower. However, when I set my generator to 15 MHz (the low end of Band 4), the image at 15.91 MHz was much less noticeable. So, the set is a reasonably good performer so long as you avoid using the high end of Band 4. -Dave Drumheller, K3WQ I had this same problem tuning up a Hallicrafters S-20R, this RX goes to 44 mhz with only one RF stage so the image rejection at the top frequency is almost nil. Hallicrafter's did use an LO at lower than signal frequency in some cases, for instance the S-36, a receiver that goes up to about 143 mhz has the LO lower than signal frequency on the top band only. The IF is about 5 mhz so the 10 mhz difference probably made it easier to get sufficient LO output. The S-20R appears to have the LO at higher than signal frequency on all bands. The performance and calibration are slightly, but noticably, better with the LO on the correct side. Hallicrafters made some receivers with no RF stage but tuning to the 40 mhz range, they probably have no detectable difference in response between desired and image signals. There should be a slight difference in the dial calibration but it may be masked by drift in the oscillator coil. BTW, while many of these receivers had no adjustment for the low end of the oscillator or RF stages its usually possible to tune them by adjusting the coils. For instance, on the S-20R the turns are held in place by wax so its possible to move them around a bit and fasten them back down again by either re-heating the existing wax (with the tip of a soldering iron or a concentrated heat gun) or by melting a bit of new bee's wax (can be had from art supply stores) onto the coil. Some RX may be found to have an adjustment section on the coil or sometimes an isolated shorted turn that can be moved around to adjust the inductance. -- -- Richard Knoppow Los Angeles WB6KBL |
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