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I wrote a short time ago about the apparently reversed
band spread capacotor in my S-40A. Here is a bit more. First, for those who did not see the original thread, I found the band spread cap in my RX had the stop pin mounted in such a way that when the plates were rotated in the direction that normal dial string threading gave they went backwards. That is, the BS dial was at 100 at minimum capacitance. This is the reverse of normal Hallicrafters practice and does not match the dial, which indicates dial-set at 0. It was possible to get the capacitor, dial, and knob to run in the correct direction by crossing over the dial string at the capacitor drive pulley. I thought the pin had been removed and replaced by someone who wanted the BS dial to run from 100 as the BS does in most other makes of RX (but not Hallicrafters). With the help of Jeffrey Angus I was able to remove the pin (actually he did it) and replaced it with a roll pin facing the right way. When I went to restring the dial drive I realized that the diagram in the Hallicrafters handbook _and_ in the Rider's sheets was wrong, in fact, the stringing must be done in reverse of what is shown. I then discovered that the stringing information for the S-40 is more nearly what I had. Note that in the two sets of diagrams the capacitor pulley is shown facing in opposite directions. For the S-40 the opening in the flange is shown facing up and in the S-40A its facing down. In my S-40A it appears that the pulley itself was reversed when swaged on. This would match the reversed pin position. From the photos I've found on the web the type of band spread rotor is different in the S-40 and S-40A. The S-40 appears to have a single rotor plate for each section which is straight line frequency shaped (kidney bean shaped), and two stator plates, this is similar to the cap in the S-20R, which was the predecessor of the S-40 series. The S-40A has two plates on each rotor section and a single plate as a stator. The S-40B appears from the photos to have reverted to the single rotor plate type used in the earlier receivers. I am beginning to suspect that H my have gotten a lot of defective tuning capacitors and used them by reversing the dial stringing as I had to. My S-40A appears from various evidence to be an early one, probably made in the first run or in the first year of manufacture. One clue is the lack of a filament dropping resistor on the 6H6 noise-limiter and gas gate diode. This is absent in the Rider's sheets on the web, which are dated February, 1948, but is present in the Hallicrafter's Service Bulletin dated November, 1948. The latter indicates it is for Run No.3. My RX has an inspection stamp indicating Run No.1. At about this time parts were still in short supply and there was still some instability in the electronics industry, which was still recovering from WW-2. That makes me think that the explanation of the cap being defective may be correct. There may have been production deadlines to meet or financial considerations that prevented rejection of the parts. Its also possible that some got mounted on chassis before any error was discovered. In any case, it would be useful if others owning S-40A receivers would take a look at the capacitor in theirs and report what they find. In one web site with some H history on it its stated that all of H's business records were destroyed by the Wilcox Electric Co. when they took H over. Too bad since they would probably have held the answer to this, and probably a great many other mysteries. I also want to thank all those in this group who have been so helpful with this, and other, projects. -- -- Richard Knoppow Los Angeles WB6KBL |
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On Thu, 02 Apr 2009 10:52:03 -0700, Richard Knoppow wrote:
[snip] I am beginning to suspect that H my have gotten a lot of defective tuning capacitors and used them by reversing the dial stringing as I had to. Just to continue with the speculation, it's conceivable that Hallicrafters got exactly the tuning caps they wanted. A reverse rotation bandspread cap works well enough in the S-40A and the reverse rotation cap might have been necessary in some planned S-40 variant. [snip] ? My S-40A appears from various evidence to be an early one, probably made in the first run or in the first year of manufacture. One clue is the lack of a filament dropping resistor on the 6H6 noise-limiter and gas gate diode. This is absent in the Rider's sheets on the web, which are dated February, 1948, but is present in the Hallicrafter's Service Bulletin dated November, 1948. The latter indicates it is for Run No.3. My RX has an inspection stamp indicating Run No.1. My S-40A has the reverse rotation cap. If I recall correctly, it has the 6H6 resistor. I can't check it out right now, but I should be able to within a couple of weeks. Frank Dresser |
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![]() "Frank Dresser" wrote in message ... On Thu, 02 Apr 2009 10:52:03 -0700, Richard Knoppow wrote: [snip] I am beginning to suspect that H my have gotten a lot of defective tuning capacitors and used them by reversing the dial stringing as I had to. Just to continue with the speculation, it's conceivable that Hallicrafters got exactly the tuning caps they wanted. A reverse rotation bandspread cap works well enough in the S-40A and the reverse rotation cap might have been necessary in some planned S-40 variant. [snip] I don't think so. The knob, dial, and capacitor should all rotate in the same direction. The dial must start at zero beacuse that's the marked "band set" point, the capacitor must set at minimum capacitance for the main dial calibration to operate within the adjustment range of the trimmer caps. The S-40A band spread capacitor differes from the one used in the other S-40 models and in the S-20R, which was the predecessor to the S-40 series, in that its got symmerical band spread plates, the others have straight line frequency plates. This means the rotor could rotate in either direction and still have the same "law" of capacitance variation with angle. The others _must_ turn in one direction only. One of the things I noticed is that the poistion of the opening in the flange of the main pulley as shown in the stringing diagrams is reversed in the S-40A from the position shown in the S-40 diagram. Usually, stringing diagrams are shown for the dial being at one end so that when you wind on the dial cord you have the stop to work against. This is not the case in my RX. So, I think both the stop pin _and_ the pulley were put on wrong. One can speculate about why this was done. You may be right that H specified these caps for some variation of the RX but never made it. But, keep on mind that parts were evidently in short supply when the RX was made so perhaps the caps were used and the dial string crossed over as a work-around. Note that one of the power resistors was made up of two resistors in parallel, this is mentioned in the parts list as a possibility so I am pretty sure it came from the factory. It suggests that H could not get enough of some parts and had to resort to work-arounds to meet production committments. Again, apparently all Hallicrafters business records were long ago destroyed so one can only guess. If someone has an original insruction manual the photos may be clear enough to see how the cap is rigged, the stuff on line is too low in resolution to show this. I wanted others with S-40's of various types and vintages to have a look at what is actually in them. What I am curious about can be seen by just lifting the lid and seeing in wich direction the band spread cap moves in going from minimum to maximum. This is all probably quite trivial in the scheme of things but sometimes its the seemingly trivial things which are the most interesting:-) -- -- Richard Knoppow Los Angeles WB6KBL |
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