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![]() Brian Goldsmith wrote: snip however the original poster stated he wanted a replacement for a 5R4.This tube has a maximum plate Voltage of 750 RMS per plate for which a 1N4007 will suffice. The 5R4 has a maximum piv voltage of 2800 volts, so you would still need 3 1N4007's in series in each leg for equivalent safety factor. The rated max supply voltage of 750V rms per plate means that you should not use a transformer higher than 1500V rms center tapped in a full wave single phase rectifier circuit using a 5R4. The designers expected switching transients when the current is interrupted in the HV transformer and HV choke, and therefore included a max supply voltage for guidance. 73, Ed K4PF |
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In article , Edward Knobloch
writes: The 5R4 has a maximum piv voltage of 2800 volts, so you would still need 3 1N4007's in series in each leg for equivalent safety factor. Absolutely correct. The rated max supply voltage of 750V rms per plate means that you should not use a transformer higher than 1500V rms center tapped in a full wave single phase rectifier circuit using a 5R4. The 750 volt rating is for capacitor input. With choke input you can go a bit higher. The designers expected switching transients when the current is interrupted in the HV transformer and HV choke, and therefore included a max supply voltage for guidance. Even with no transients, the peak voltages that the diodes have to withstand are quite high, compared to the RMS transformer voltages. Here's why: First off, the voltages in the transformer catalogs and tube manuals are RMS values, not peak values. 750 volts RMS equates to 1060 volts peak with sine waves. So under perfect conditions a 750-0-750 (1500VCT) transformer with fullwave center tap rectifier and capacitor input filter can have voltage output of 1060 volts. But there's more! In our 750-0-750 example, each transformer HV lead goes from 1060 volts (peak) positive to 1060 volts negative with respect to the center tap. So each diode is subjected to as much as 2120 volts when it is in the nonconducting (inverse) state. So you need *at least* three 1N4007s to replace one side of a 5R4. Four diodes won't hurt a thing. The tube manuals I have show voltages higher than 750 for capacitor input, but they are for the 5R4GYA. In any event please use at least three and preferably four 1N4007s or equivalents in a 5R4 replacement. Plate transformers and filter chokes can be expensive and hard to replace. 73 de Jim, N2EY |
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In article , Edward Knobloch
writes: The 5R4 has a maximum piv voltage of 2800 volts, so you would still need 3 1N4007's in series in each leg for equivalent safety factor. Absolutely correct. The rated max supply voltage of 750V rms per plate means that you should not use a transformer higher than 1500V rms center tapped in a full wave single phase rectifier circuit using a 5R4. The 750 volt rating is for capacitor input. With choke input you can go a bit higher. The designers expected switching transients when the current is interrupted in the HV transformer and HV choke, and therefore included a max supply voltage for guidance. Even with no transients, the peak voltages that the diodes have to withstand are quite high, compared to the RMS transformer voltages. Here's why: First off, the voltages in the transformer catalogs and tube manuals are RMS values, not peak values. 750 volts RMS equates to 1060 volts peak with sine waves. So under perfect conditions a 750-0-750 (1500VCT) transformer with fullwave center tap rectifier and capacitor input filter can have voltage output of 1060 volts. But there's more! In our 750-0-750 example, each transformer HV lead goes from 1060 volts (peak) positive to 1060 volts negative with respect to the center tap. So each diode is subjected to as much as 2120 volts when it is in the nonconducting (inverse) state. So you need *at least* three 1N4007s to replace one side of a 5R4. Four diodes won't hurt a thing. The tube manuals I have show voltages higher than 750 for capacitor input, but they are for the 5R4GYA. In any event please use at least three and preferably four 1N4007s or equivalents in a 5R4 replacement. Plate transformers and filter chokes can be expensive and hard to replace. 73 de Jim, N2EY |