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I just purchased a Hammarlund HQ-150 receiver for restoration and use
with a kit built synchronous-am detector to listen to medium and shortwave broadcasts. By pure happenstance, it turns out that the HQ-150 comes with an outboard unit made in the mid-1950s by Central Electronics called a "Sideband Slicer". The "Slicer" appears to be, among other things, some kind of unit for injecting a locally generated and phased carrier signal into a received AM signal for improved reception. Is anyone out there familiar with the Sideband Slicer and how it's the same or different than today's synchronous-am detector circuits? - Paul |
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Paul ) writes:
I just purchased a Hammarlund HQ-150 receiver for restoration and use with a kit built synchronous-am detector to listen to medium and shortwave broadcasts. By pure happenstance, it turns out that the HQ-150 comes with an outboard unit made in the mid-1950s by Central Electronics called a "Sideband Slicer". The "Slicer" appears to be, among other things, some kind of unit for injecting a locally generated and phased carrier signal into a received AM signal for improved reception. Is anyone out there familiar with the Sideband Slicer and how it's the same or different than today's synchronous-am detector circuits? - Paul I don't know where you get that impression. A "Sideband Slicer" is an adaptor for making an old receiver better able to deal with SSB. So not only is it a product detector, but you get two of them because it uses the phasing method to remove the unwanted sideband. It's not as good as an IF filter to cut down on bandwidth, but it did help when the receivers it was used with had AM-bandwidth selectivity, and some RC and LC networks were cheaper than a mechanical filter. It connects to the end of the IF strip of the receiver, and there is no RF coming from the unit back to the receiver. I'm not sure how it hooks up, but if there is an output it would be an audio signal so you can use the receiver's audio output stage. There is no synchronization because it's for sideband. There were apparently two models, with the "B" model including a Q-Multiplier for peaking or notching the incoming signal. The scheme was first described in a ham publcation in 1951, and then various companies offered up their own commercial versions. They date from a time when there weren't receivers specifically designed for SSB, though as that decade continued various manufacturers did start to produce receivers with product detectors and better selectivity for SSB. The phasing scheme is seen in some selectible sideband synchronous detectors, but in both places it only offers a means of nulling out the undesired sideband. The actual synchronous circuitry is elsewhere, and "Sideband Slicers" and their siblings from other companies did not include such circuitry since they were to improve SSB reception. Circa 1958, you did see descriptions of synchronous detectors with selectible sideband (again using the phasing method) in the ham magazines, but as far as I know nobody produced a commercial version in the tube era. Michael VE2BVW |
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Michael Black wrote:
A "Sideband Slicer" is an adaptor for making an old receiver better able to deal with SSB. So not only is it a product detector, but you get two of them because it uses the phasing method to remove the unwanted sideband. It's not as good as an IF filter to cut down on bandwidth, but it did help when the receivers it was used with had AM-bandwidth selectivity, and some RC and LC networks were cheaper than a mechanical filter. It connects to the end of the IF strip of the receiver, and there is no RF coming from the unit back to the receiver. I'm not sure how it hooks up, but if there is an output it would be an audio signal so you can use the receiver's audio output stage. There is no synchronization because it's for sideband. There were apparently two models, with the "B" model including a Q-Multiplier for peaking or notching the incoming signal. The scheme was first described in a ham publcation in 1951, and then various companies offered up their own commercial versions. They date from a time when there weren't receivers specifically designed for SSB, though as that decade continued various manufacturers did start to produce receivers with product detectors and better selectivity for SSB. The phasing scheme is seen in some selectible sideband synchronous detectors, but in both places it only offers a means of nulling out the undesired sideband. The actual synchronous circuitry is elsewhere, and "Sideband Slicers" and their siblings from other companies did not include such circuitry since they were to improve SSB reception. Circa 1958, you did see descriptions of synchronous detectors with selectible sideband (again using the phasing method) in the ham magazines, but as far as I know nobody produced a commercial version in the tube era. Michael VE2BVW Thanks for the information. I found a copy of the Sideband Slicer manual online, and what it talks about permitting is exalted carrier reception of AM signals, not synchronous detection. - Paul |
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Paul wrote:
Michael Black wrote: There were apparently two models, with the "B" model including a Q-Multiplier for peaking or notching the incoming signal. The HQ-150 wont need the one with the Q-multiplier since that receiver has one built-in. Paul, you will find that to be a very sensitive tube radio. I also find that Q-multiplier to be an amazng aid to copying weak ssb signals. -- Brian Denley http://home.comcast.net/~b.denley/index.html |
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