I¹m posting this just on the Boat Anchors, Homebrew and Antique radio-phono
newsgroups.

Last month at a garage sale Â* I came across a large stack of Popular
Electronics and other electronic magazines from the 50¹s 60¹s and 70¹s that
were about to be thrown away.

Reading them has been a hoot! Unfortunately, I don¹t have the space to store
them but I still would like to keep reading them.

So, I plan to scan them by month on CD.

One month = One CD.

I will scan them in both Mac PICT format and Windows BMP format with no
compression. Most scanned images like QST CD¹s are in TIFF or JPEG format
which usually pretty bad for scanned paper.

Yes BMP and PICT take a bit more data Â* but with a 600 Meg CD, I should be
able to get an entire month with room to spare.

I have written a very nice program to view PICT files for the Mac. I write
my programs in SmallTalk which is object oriented so I can use the same
objects and come up with a WINDOWS BMP version. It won¹t be easy but it
could be done.

The question isÅ* would anyone like a copy?

The idea would be to send out the current month and keep things interesting
by choosing various years and sending it out once a month.

Like 1956 for June and 1966 for July and so on.

I plan to scan them cover to cover and keep all the ads, (which is part of
the fun). To get perfect scans, I will have to destroy the binding and
carefully take apart each page to be scanned.

It¹ll be a lot of work.

I figure $3 per CD will cover the cost and postage.

No subscriptions, no eBay auctions, This offer is only for these three
newsgroups.

I am looking for opinions or interest only - no orders at this time Â*

Please email me.

If no one is interested Â* I¹ll only scan it in Mac format and keep them to
myself.

There will also be an upper limit Â* I don¹t¹ want to spend most of the day
burning CD¹s.

This is just for a few folks wanting to re-live the good old days in
electronics before computers and "outsourcing American jobs to communist or
socialist nations".


- Biz WDØHCO

"Biz WDØHCO" wrote in message
...
I¹m posting this just on the Boat Anchors, Homebrew and Antique
radio-phono
newsgroups.

Last month at a garage sale Â* I came across a large stack of Popular
Electronics and other electronic magazines from the 50¹s 60¹s and 70¹s
that
were about to be thrown away.

Reading them has been a hoot! Unfortunately, I don¹t have the space to
store
them but I still would like to keep reading them.

So, I plan to scan them by month on CD.

One month = One CD.

I will scan them in both Mac PICT format and Windows BMP format with no
compression. Most scanned images like QST CD¹s are in TIFF or JPEG format
which usually pretty bad for scanned paper.

Yes BMP and PICT take a bit more data Â* but with a 600 Meg CD, I should be
able to get an entire month with room to spare.

I have written a very nice program to view PICT files for the Mac. I write
my programs in SmallTalk which is object oriented so I can use the same
objects and come up with a WINDOWS BMP version. It won¹t be easy but it
could be done.

The question isS would anyone like a copy?

The idea would be to send out the current month and keep things
interesting
by choosing various years and sending it out once a month.

Like 1956 for June and 1966 for July and so on.

I plan to scan them cover to cover and keep all the ads, (which is part of
the fun). To get perfect scans, I will have to destroy the binding and
carefully take apart each page to be scanned.

It¹ll be a lot of work.

I figure $3 per CD will cover the cost and postage.

No subscriptions, no eBay auctions, This offer is only for these three
newsgroups.

I am looking for opinions or interest only - no orders at this time Â*

Please email me.

If no one is interested Â* I¹ll only scan it in Mac format and keep them to
myself.

There will also be an upper limit Â* I don¹t¹ want to spend most of the day
burning CD¹s.

This is just for a few folks wanting to re-live the good old days in
electronics before computers and "outsourcing American jobs to communist
or
socialist nations".


- Biz WDØHCO


While I applaud your generosity, this would probably violate copyright law
unless you have the written permission of the copyright holder to do so.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE

Last month at a garage sale Â* I came across a large stack of Popular
Electronics and other electronic magazines from the 50¹s 60¹s and 70¹s

Under US copyright law, Popular Electronics et al own the rights to all of
the material in those magazines. You do not have any legal right to sell
copies
of that material! You can quickly find yourself in trouble if you try
this - you've
made it so high profile posting here that I'm sure you'll get a 'cease and
desist'
order from PE legal eagles (does not matter if the mag is still published -
under
US copyright law the comapany can be fully out of business but still own the
copyright and can still sue you).

Good luck.

"JOE" wrote in message
news.com...

Last month at a garage sale Â* I came across a large stack of Popular
Electronics and other electronic magazines from the 50¹s 60¹s and 70¹s

Under US copyright law, Popular Electronics et al own the rights to all of
the material in those magazines. You do not have any legal right to sell
copies
of that material! You can quickly find yourself in trouble if you try
this - you've
made it so high profile posting here that I'm sure you'll get a 'cease and
desist'
order from PE legal eagles (does not matter if the mag is still
published -
under
US copyright law the comapany can be fully out of business but still own
the
copyright and can still sue you).

Good luck.



I'm not a lawyer by any stretch of the word - but - it seems to me that I
have heard that Copy rights are only good for so many years and have to be
renewed if the original owner intends to keep them "personal" property. Some
one may want to check on that. The person wanting to do this, should have
done his/her homework to see if it was legal before even going online with
the idea. Call the Copy right office, a local attorney, etc. Someone should
be able to direct you. Also, there may be some words of wisdom in the
magazines themselves regarding copying and such.

Lou

"JOE" ) writes:
Last month at a garage sale Â* I came across a large stack of Popular
Electronics and other electronic magazines from the 50¹s 60¹s and 70¹s

Under US copyright law, Popular Electronics et al own the rights to all of
the material in those magazines. You do not have any legal right to sell
copies
of that material! You can quickly find yourself in trouble if you try
this - you've
made it so high profile posting here that I'm sure you'll get a 'cease and
desist'
order from PE legal eagles (does not matter if the mag is still published -
under
US copyright law the comapany can be fully out of business but still own the
copyright and can still sue you).

Good luck.


I'd not argue with your point, but it does bring up an interesting point,
who owns the copyright?

Popular Electronics was published by Ziff-Davis. I gather they still exist.
The last issue of Popular Electronics came out in 1984 or so, though by that
time it had gone through a name change or two.

I never saw a clear indication of what it acquired, but at some point
Gernsback Publishing obtained the rights to Popular Electronics. I've
heard mixed things about whether they got past rights, or just the right
to the name. Eventually, they changed one of their existing magazines
to "Popular Electronics" but it wa not a continuation of the original
magazine. Eventually, that titled changed, to Poptronics.

Now, Gernsback went out of business at the end of 2001 or the beginning
of 2002. They didn't just stop publishing the magazine, they closed
down the business.

A few months later, Larry Steckler said he had obtained the rights to
the magazine, though again what those rights entailed was not specified.

I have no idea where that leaves the old material.

I don't have the URL handy, but someone was "archiving" old Popular
Electronics. Or was it just the Carl & Jerry stories? It would require
some digging. But they claimed (and I realize it's easy to make claims)
that they had obtained the right to do so.

Michael Ve2BVW

Under US copyright law of 1978, the copyright stays
with the creator of the material for his lifetime plus 50 years.
Even if a business has gone under, the corporate 'name'
(a person under the law in a great many ways) still owns
the copyright for 50 years 'after its death'. Works produced
PRIOR to 1978 are good for only 28 years from date of
creation, unless renewed. But it is the responsibility of
the reissuer to confirm ownership before using the work.
Just saying you 'think' it's in the public domain will hold
no water in court. You can request a copyright search from
the Library of Congress (they charge a nominal fee for this -
$20 per hour last time I checked) or simply locate the
principals of the former publisher and request permission in
writing.

No gray area here - just the way it works. I'm a writer
and deal with this stuff daily. You can look it up - do
a google search on 'copyright law' - it's all EASY to
find and easy to confirm - there really is no need to guess
and wonder in the era of the internet.


JOE

"Michael Black" wrote in message
...
"JOE" ) writes:
Last month at a garage sale Â* I came across a large stack of Popular
Electronics and other electronic magazines from the 50¹s 60¹s and
70¹s

Under US copyright law, Popular Electronics et al own the rights to all
of
the material in those magazines. You do not have any legal right to
sell
copies
of that material! You can quickly find yourself in trouble if you try
this - you've
made it so high profile posting here that I'm sure you'll get a 'cease
and
desist'
order from PE legal eagles (does not matter if the mag is still
published -
under
US copyright law the comapany can be fully out of business but still own
the
copyright and can still sue you).

Good luck.


I'd not argue with your point, but it does bring up an interesting point,
who owns the copyright?

Popular Electronics was published by Ziff-Davis. I gather they still
exist.
The last issue of Popular Electronics came out in 1984 or so, though by
that
time it had gone through a name change or two.

I never saw a clear indication of what it acquired, but at some point
Gernsback Publishing obtained the rights to Popular Electronics. I've
heard mixed things about whether they got past rights, or just the right
to the name. Eventually, they changed one of their existing magazines
to "Popular Electronics" but it wa not a continuation of the original
magazine. Eventually, that titled changed, to Poptronics.

Now, Gernsback went out of business at the end of 2001 or the beginning
of 2002. They didn't just stop publishing the magazine, they closed
down the business.

A few months later, Larry Steckler said he had obtained the rights to
the magazine, though again what those rights entailed was not specified.

I have no idea where that leaves the old material.

I don't have the URL handy, but someone was "archiving" old Popular
Electronics. Or was it just the Carl & Jerry stories? It would require
some digging. But they claimed (and I realize it's easy to make claims)
that they had obtained the right to do so.

Michael Ve2BVW