On Wed, 02 Feb 2005 18:38:36 GMT, "Trent Hancock"
wrote:


Trent Hand-cock. What a faggot name!
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the trolliam posted:

In a reply to an e-mail I received from a reader of this group, I wrote the
following:

I have been a user of newsgroups since early 1991. Most users today are not
aware there was an internet then! We did not have Netscape, Internet
Explorer and Mozilla then. We relied on many other means to access the
internet. At that time, as is customary today, binary files continue to be
posted in many usegroups. Just because I was new to this paticular group, I
was hammered because I posted a genuine post asking for some help. What did
I get besides flames? There are some who replied to my question without
showing their bottom side and to them I give many thanks.

The usegroups are free for all to use and under the control of no one
individual or group of people. It was devised to operate in this manner to
prevent the very thing that happened to me from happening! Those guys are
just showing their true colors and I now realize they are to be ignored and
placed on the refuge heap with their comments!

Thanks,

Trent

KR4UW

And this is my last post dealing with this issue. My stance remains as it
was then and is now, the same!

"Ed Price" wrote in message
news:iLVKd.14$xt.7@fed1read07...

"Trent Hancock" wrote in message
ink.net...
My problem with the whole mess was this: I had no idea this was an all
text,
no binary format news group. No where was this written or explained.
Another
fact is: there are other pics listed in this group, but no nasty
messages
posted to them.

As it appeared to me at the time, I had invaded a good old boys plot of
turf
and was being told I was not welcome. I have been a user of the Usenet
system for years and have never been treated as I have been on this net.
Does not say much for the users of this group.


I'm not playing net-cop so much as logic enforcer. My News server trimmed
your attachment before I ever saw anything, so it's nothing to me.

However, YOU have a few problems, and they could be illuminated just by
you
reading your own postings. You claim to be a long-term Usenet user, yet
you
jump in and post a binary to a non-binary group. This is equivalent to
transmitting before checking the frequency. Doesn't say much for your
courtesy, experience or common sense.

But your real problem is humility; you just can't say something simple
like
"oops, sorry". No, you have to hang in there and chew it death. And all
the
while, new issues keep being added and the hostility level is ratcheting
up,
and you're just displaying what an ass you are.

This isn't a good ol' boy issue; it's simply that this group doesn't
easily
suffer the rude, ignorant, profane and hostile.

Ed
wb6wsn


It's too bad you learned nothing. Top posting is still not the preferred
method to use. But then, the troll in your name says it all, I guess.

In my opinion you are being unnecessarily belligerent and you will continue to
be met in kind .

Trent Hancock wrote:

In a reply to an e-mail I received from a reader of this group, I wrote the
following:

I have been a user of newsgroups since early 1991. Most users today are not
aware there was an internet then! We did not have Netscape, Internet
Explorer and Mozilla then. We relied on many other means to access the
internet. At that time, as is customary today, binary files continue to be
posted in many usegroups. Just because I was new to this paticular group, I
was hammered because I posted a genuine post asking for some help. What did
I get besides flames? There are some who replied to my question without
showing their bottom side and to them I give many thanks.

The usegroups are free for all to use and under the control of no one
individual or group of people. It was devised to operate in this manner to
prevent the very thing that happened to me from happening! Those guys are
just showing their true colors and I now realize they are to be ignored and
placed on the refuge heap with their comments!

Thanks,

Trent

Well, no one can force you from it, but it is against Usenet convention
to post binary files to non-binary groups. There are good reasons for
it. There are binary groups set up for that purpose and it is very easy
to point to your binary file that is posted to a binary group, and any
gentleman would be more than happy to abide by that convention.

Cmd Buzz Corey wrote:
Well, no one can force you from it, but it is against Usenet convention
to post binary files to non-binary groups. There are good reasons for
it. There are binary groups set up for that purpose and it is very easy
to point to your binary file that is posted to a binary group, and any
gentleman would be more than happy to abide by that convention.

Yes, folks CAN force you. Your news admin can refuse to allow service to
you (or refuse to allow binary posting), and the site downstream can refuse
to accept traffic from your site if that does not take place.

These sorts of things don't happen today except in pretty egregious cases,
which is what has driven a lot of backbone sites just to drop all binaries
to discussion groups themselves.
--scott

--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

Trent Hancock wrote in message
ink.net...
Anyone know who made this speech compressor and maybe even what type
batteries it uses?

Thanks in advance,

Trent Hancock
KR4UW


Yes... I tend to agree... it sure looks like a Comdel speech processor (LMB
Box)---but I thought the Comdel name was on the front panel and had
different knobs... Check out the product review on the Comdel CPS-11 on the
ARRL website (I am not a member so I can't download it).

The Comdel was an exceedingly effective processor. It might be called an RF
speech processor (that's what Comdel claimed) since it took the mic audio,
convert it to an RF signal, process it, then demodulated it---output was
again an audio frequency.

A buddy WA9ZPR (where is he now) back in the late 1970's used one. That's
how I got to know him (we became ham buddies and had many skeds)... he was
on 20 meters as the band was about to go out demonstrating it to another ham
as I was listening. He would go from complete no copy to solid copy as he
would switch the device in and out.

RG