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Yes its mine but you don't see these often so I wanted to make sure folks
knew about it. Complete with power supply, coils and what looks like a
matching speaker.

Hi Art,

FWIW I don't think the spkr is orig & it wouldn't be a good idea to try
connecting it to the radio. The radio outputs hi-z & the orig spkr has
an xfmr to deal with it (to the v/c z). It looks like the Quam in the
pic has a bracket that once many have held an xfmr, but the style of
the orig cab is very similar to the HRO-5 series & not what's depicted.

It'd be a good idea to show the front (panel) of the doghouse supply &
a readable pic of its tag, too. The FB-7's supply was commonly shipped
with the 2.5v early sets.

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Hi Art,

FWIW I don't think the spkr is orig & it wouldn't be a good idea to try
connecting it to the radio. The radio outputs hi-z & the orig spkr has
an xfmr to deal with it (to the v/c z). It looks like the Quam in the
pic has a bracket that once many have held an xfmr, but the style of
the orig cab is very similar to the HRO-5 series & not what's depicted.

It'd be a good idea to show the front (panel) of the doghouse supply &
a readable pic of its tag, too. The FB-7's supply was commonly shipped
with the 2.5v early sets.


That spkr had a transformer a one time. Look at the bracket.


--
73 and good DX. B.H.
Brian's Radio Universe
http://webpages.charter.net/brianhill/500.htm

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Hi Art,

FWIW I don't think the spkr is orig & it wouldn't be a good idea to try
connecting it to the radio. The radio outputs hi-z & the orig spkr has
an xfmr to deal with it (to the v/c z). It looks like the Quam in the
pic has a bracket that once many have held an xfmr, but the style of
the orig cab is very similar to the HRO-5 series & not what's depicted.

It'd be a good idea to show the front (panel) of the doghouse supply &
a readable pic of its tag, too. The FB-7's supply was commonly shipped
with the 2.5v early sets.


That spkr had a transformer a one time. Look at the bracket.

I did, & said the same thing in my post. (?)

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Hi Art,

FWIW I don't think the spkr is orig & it wouldn't be a good idea to try
connecting it to the radio. The radio outputs hi-z & the orig spkr has
an xfmr to deal with it (to the v/c z). It looks like the Quam in the
pic has a bracket that once many have held an xfmr, but the style of
the orig cab is very similar to the HRO-5 series & not what's depicted.

It'd be a good idea to show the front (panel) of the doghouse supply &
a readable pic of its tag, too. The FB-7's supply was commonly shipped
with the 2.5v early sets.


That spkr had a transformer a one time. Look at the bracket.

I did, & said the same thing in my post. (?)


So sorry said the blind man

Thanks Group

I will amend the listing about the speaker and post a picture of the tag on
the power supply.

The tag is on top and not on the side.
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Hi Art,

FWIW I don't think the spkr is orig & it wouldn't be a good idea to
try
connecting it to the radio. The radio outputs hi-z & the orig spkr
has
an xfmr to deal with it (to the v/c z). It looks like the Quam in the
pic has a bracket that once many have held an xfmr, but the style of
the orig cab is very similar to the HRO-5 series & not what's
depicted.

It'd be a good idea to show the front (panel) of the doghouse supply &
a readable pic of its tag, too. The FB-7's supply was commonly
shipped
with the 2.5v early sets.


That spkr had a transformer a one time. Look at the bracket.

I did, & said the same thing in my post. (?)


So sorry said the blind man

Art's Antique Radios wrote:
Thanks Group

I will amend the listing about the speaker and post a picture of the tag on
the power supply.

The tag is on top and not on the side.

Hi Art,

Not to drag the matter out, but yes, while the tag is on top, the '30's
National doghouse-style supplies have a sloped panel on one upper side
where the plug for the rcvr pwr cord, pilot light & switch are.
Although National WAS known to have done unusual things once in awhile,
according to what parts they had on hand. It is definitely a National
supply cab, and original plug & cord, & no reasonable doubt that it
came with the radio tho the tag info will be informative.

And not in any way trying to criticize your listing as is so common,
just wishing to be helpful. :-)

FWIW, you also have a mixed coils set. So does my very early HRO (1st
3 mos of production). Many collectors have a lot to say about this,
and there is still some confusion about when white or black scapes were
shipped (and the AWA "authoritative" articles have a number of errors,
too!); but it was also not uncommon for some buyers to get it with only
one or so coils, then buy others as they had the money in the
mid-'30's, or even to trade some coils off with others. Any coils that
were originally aligned & shipped with the rcvr will have its s/n
stamped on them. Those that weren't are easily aligned & it's in the
manual.

The earliest HRO's (incl Jr's) will have large white ceramic resistors
under the chassis, the round tube shields like yours has, and the 2.5v
tubes - among other small things.

There are a number of prevalent myths about very early Nationals, and
it is wise not to rely too much on what is found on the 'net. My own
set was correctly identified by Wayne Childress, who was just getting
out of the hobby, and whose National literature collection alone went
for 5 figures. I learned from Wayne that National was all over the
place as far as consistency of parts went in the early years, and that
many "authoritative" edicts are inaccurate when inflexibly applied.
National was a parts hoarder that used whatever they had gotten a good
deal on from one small production run to another. I had many
collectors telling me that my set was not as early as it is because it
doesn't have the "white meter button." They are wrong. Wayne also
sold me a correctly restored 1935 spkr cab (it was the last of the
stuff he was getting rid of), which is very similar (but different) to
that sold for the later HRO-5 series. But this doesn't by itself rule
out National shipping that cab with the Junior, and it's brown inside
lining is exactly like what National used. It also may be that someone
installed an OPT under the rcvr chassis, which was not uncommon, so
they cld use the spkr with other rcvrs as well and/or not have to have
higher voltages going thru the spkr leads. So do not take my input as
absolutely reliable, but only another guideline.

HTH,
Frank
(not a National expert, but a digger of truth)

Thanks for the helpful info
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Art's Antique Radios wrote:
Thanks Group

I will amend the listing about the speaker and post a picture of the tag
on
the power supply.

The tag is on top and not on the side.

Hi Art,

Not to drag the matter out, but yes, while the tag is on top, the '30's
National doghouse-style supplies have a sloped panel on one upper side
where the plug for the rcvr pwr cord, pilot light & switch are.
Although National WAS known to have done unusual things once in awhile,
according to what parts they had on hand. It is definitely a National
supply cab, and original plug & cord, & no reasonable doubt that it
came with the radio tho the tag info will be informative.

And not in any way trying to criticize your listing as is so common,
just wishing to be helpful. :-)

FWIW, you also have a mixed coils set. So does my very early HRO (1st
3 mos of production). Many collectors have a lot to say about this,
and there is still some confusion about when white or black scapes were
shipped (and the AWA "authoritative" articles have a number of errors,
too!); but it was also not uncommon for some buyers to get it with only
one or so coils, then buy others as they had the money in the
mid-'30's, or even to trade some coils off with others. Any coils that
were originally aligned & shipped with the rcvr will have its s/n
stamped on them. Those that weren't are easily aligned & it's in the
manual.

The earliest HRO's (incl Jr's) will have large white ceramic resistors
under the chassis, the round tube shields like yours has, and the 2.5v
tubes - among other small things.

There are a number of prevalent myths about very early Nationals, and
it is wise not to rely too much on what is found on the 'net. My own
set was correctly identified by Wayne Childress, who was just getting
out of the hobby, and whose National literature collection alone went
for 5 figures. I learned from Wayne that National was all over the
place as far as consistency of parts went in the early years, and that
many "authoritative" edicts are inaccurate when inflexibly applied.
National was a parts hoarder that used whatever they had gotten a good
deal on from one small production run to another. I had many
collectors telling me that my set was not as early as it is because it
doesn't have the "white meter button." They are wrong. Wayne also
sold me a correctly restored 1935 spkr cab (it was the last of the
stuff he was getting rid of), which is very similar (but different) to
that sold for the later HRO-5 series. But this doesn't by itself rule
out National shipping that cab with the Junior, and it's brown inside
lining is exactly like what National used. It also may be that someone
installed an OPT under the rcvr chassis, which was not uncommon, so
they cld use the spkr with other rcvrs as well and/or not have to have
higher voltages going thru the spkr leads. So do not take my input as
absolutely reliable, but only another guideline.

HTH,
Frank
(not a National expert, but a digger of truth)