On Fri, 8 Jul 2005 13:59:41 UTC, "Albert &
Btittany Spear" wrote:

www.aaarfproducts.com


My 2-year old Mozilla can't even begin reading
this site- kicks out with error msg I've never
seen before, something like: "can't enter site;
some data may have been transferred".

Hire 'one true way' M$ heads to work for peanuts
to create/maintain your website and you loose
potential customers like this. They're trying to
sell hardware fer xsakes!

BTW, I am looking, once again, for 3/4 inch coax
connectors for nitrogen-cell CATV cable which was
free, but sorry you can't have any of our
connectors......

--
Dj

On 10 Jul 2005 15:40:11 GMT, wrote:
On Fri, 8 Jul 2005 13:59:41 UTC, "Albert &
Btittany Spear" wrote:

www.aaarfproducts.com

My 2-year old Mozilla can't even begin reading
this site- kicks out with error msg I've never
seen before, something like: "can't enter site;
some data may have been transferred".

Hire 'one true way' M$ heads to work for peanuts
to create/maintain your website and you loose
potential customers like this. They're trying to
sell hardware fer xsakes!

BTW, I am looking, once again, for 3/4 inch coax
connectors for nitrogen-cell CATV cable which was
free, but sorry you can't have any of our
connectors......

The all too common focus on Form Instead Of Function.
What the pain must be to view that web site over dial-up...
This is telling:
" 00898 hits since June 7, 2005 "
(Most of which are probably NG readers checking on your complaint. :-)

My non-commercial web site gets more hits than that PER DAY.

I run several different web browsers on my linux box here for those
occasions when I MUST get in to see a web site. Usually, tho', I
don't waste my time -- I just click off somewhere else...

The most infuriating are the home pages consisting of NOTHING but
flash eye-candy. (The plus there is that type of web site rarely
gets into the Google lists.....)

Jonesy -- who truly believes in KISS.
--
Marvin L Jones | jonz | W3DHJ | linux
Pueblo, Colorado | @ | Jonesy | OS/2 __
38.24N 104.55W | config.com | DM78rf | SK

Allodoxaphobia wrote:

The all too common focus on Form Instead Of Function.
What the pain must be to view that web site over dial-up...
This is telling:
" 00898 hits since June 7, 2005 "
(Most of which are probably NG readers checking on your complaint. :-)

My non-commercial web site gets more hits than that PER DAY.

I run several different web browsers on my linux box here for those
occasions when I MUST get in to see a web site. Usually, tho', I
don't waste my time -- I just click off somewhere else...

The most infuriating are the home pages consisting of NOTHING but
flash eye-candy. (The plus there is that type of web site rarely
gets into the Google lists.....)

Jonesy


I ran into an electronics wholesale website that was built entirely
in flash I had updated the crappy Macromedia Flash software less than a
week before, and it was out of date already so I e-mailed the webmaster
and told them I wouldn't install more software on an already full hard
drive to buy parts that were available from people who really wanted to
sell, not just advertise. I wonder if they fixed the site, or went out
of business? I know a lot of people who won't wait 10 minutes per page
to download to be able to look for parts.

--
Link to my "Computers for disabled Veterans" project website deleted
after threats were telephoned to my church.

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida

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On Sun, 10 Jul 2005 18:29:05 GMT, Michael A. Terrell wrote:
Allodoxaphobia wrote:
snip
The most infuriating are the home pages consisting of NOTHING but
flash eye-candy. (The plus there is that type of web site rarely
gets into the Google lists.....)

I ran into an electronics wholesale website that was built entirely
in flash I had updated the crappy Macromedia Flash software less than a
week before, and it was out of date already
so I e-mailed the webmaster and told them I wouldn't install more software
on an already full hard drive to buy parts that were available from people
who really wanted to sell, not just advertise.

You emailed the wrong fella. The webmaster's Prime Directive is to protect
and expand the webmaster's job. You need to get the message to the folks who
lay awake at night -- wondering how (if) they can stay in business.

More than installing "...more software on an already full hard drive...",
I'm tired of spend a large percentage of my "computing time" constantly
updating my system(s). Imagine, if you will, devoting that kind of effort
on your car, your TV, or your HVAC -- just to get the same 'utility' out
of it tomorrow that you got out of it yesterday. sigh...

Jonesy
--
Marvin L Jones | jonz | W3DHJ | linux
Pueblo, Colorado | @ | Jonesy | OS/2 __
38.24N 104.55W | config.com | DM78rf | SK

Allodoxaphobia wrote:

More than installing "...more software on an already full hard drive...",
I'm tired of spend a large percentage of my "computing time" constantly
updating my system(s). Imagine, if you will, devoting that kind of effort
on your car, your TV, or your HVAC -- just to get the same 'utility' out
of it tomorrow that you got out of it yesterday. sigh...

Jonesy


The webmaster was the only address I could find without installing
the software and all of the blind e-mails to info@, sales@ and other
common business addresses all bounced. it doesn't really matter, because
I can't remember the name of the company, even though their flashy
trashy website is supposed to make you want to come back again and
again.

--
Link to my "Computers for disabled Veterans" project website deleted
after threats were telephoned to my church.

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida

In rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors Michael A. Terrell wrote:

I ran into an electronics wholesale website that was built entirely
in flash I had updated the crappy Macromedia Flash software less than a
week before, and it was out of date already so I e-mailed the webmaster
and told them I wouldn't install more software on an already full hard
drive to buy parts that were available from people who really wanted to
sell, not just advertise. I wonder if they fixed the site, or went out
of business? I know a lot of people who won't wait 10 minutes per page
to download to be able to look for parts.

I run a non-Windows OS at home, and can't run Flash -- nor would I if I
could. I don't want eye-candy websites on my browser. I do want to be able
to see things with a minimal browse, such as Lynx, or with a GUI browser
such as Mozilla Firefox. I never, never, never use IE: IE is a way to let
bad guys subvert your system to their own purposes.

Here's a precept to design websites by, from someone with expertise and
experience both:

Any site should be designed so that it's usable as a
dead file tree with no server-side smarts. Any sort of
active pages or search engines should be an add-on, not
essential.
-- Peter da Silva, in a.s.r.

--
Mike Andrews, W5EGO

Tired old sysadmin

Mike Andrews wrote:

I run a non-Windows OS at home, and can't run Flash -- nor would I if I
could. I don't want eye-candy websites on my browser. I do want to be able
to see things with a minimal browse, such as Lynx, or with a GUI browser
such as Mozilla Firefox. I never, never, never use IE: IE is a way to let
bad guys subvert your system to their own purposes.

Here's a precept to design websites by, from someone with expertise and
experience both:

Any site should be designed so that it's usable as a
dead file tree with no server-side smarts. Any sort of
active pages or search engines should be an add-on, not
essential.
-- Peter da Silva, in a.s.r.

--
Mike Andrews


Take a look at: http://home.earthlink.net/~mike.terrell/ if you have
a few minutes.

It is all written with Wordpad and uses a CSS to keep the design
uniform, along with a split Javascript to hide the E-mail address. I
use this simple format on all the pages I create. It is tested to work
with several older and current browsers, even though faults are found
when its run though one of the HTML verification sites. When I correct
the "Errors" it doesn't work with some browsers, so it will stay the way
it is, as long as most browsers will work with it.

You can still access the sites without CSS or Javascript enabled, but
you do lose some formatting and it takes longer to navigate the site.

--
Link to my "Computers for disabled Veterans" project website deleted
after threats were telephoned to my church.

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida

Michael A. Terrell wrote:

You can still access the sites without CSS or Javascript enabled, but
you do lose some formatting and it takes longer to navigate the site.

Here is a site that has some very complex elements - such that require a
reasonably up to date browser (I.E. 5.x Netscape 7.x or such - and must
have JavaScript) - yet loads very fast; and has several neat features
that don't "weigh it down".

http://www.earthworksaudio.com

best regards...
--
randy guttery

A Tender Tale - a page dedicated to those Ships and Crews
so vital to the United States Silent Service:
http://tendertale.com

Michael A. Terrell wrote:
Mike Andrews wrote:

I run a non-Windows OS at home, and can't run Flash -- nor would I
if I could. I don't want eye-candy websites on my browser. I do want
to be able to see things with a minimal browse, such as Lynx, or
with a GUI browser such as Mozilla Firefox. I never, never, never
use IE: IE is a way to let bad guys subvert your system to their own
purposes.

Here's a precept to design websites by, from someone with expertise
and experience both:

Any site should be designed so that it's usable as a
dead file tree with no server-side smarts. Any sort of
active pages or search engines should be an add-on, not
essential.
-- Peter da Silva, in a.s.r.

--
Mike Andrews


Take a look at: http://home.earthlink.net/~mike.terrell/ if you
have a few minutes.

It is all written with Wordpad and uses a CSS to keep the design
uniform, along with a split Javascript to hide the E-mail address. I
use this simple format on all the pages I create. It is tested to
work with several older and current browsers, even though faults are
found when its run though one of the HTML verification sites. When I
correct the "Errors" it doesn't work with some browsers, so it will
stay the way it is, as long as most browsers will work with it.

You can still access the sites without CSS or Javascript enabled,
but you do lose some formatting and it takes longer to navigate the
site.

Michael, in FireFox (with Java), when I click on a link, then hit the 'back'
button on my browser, the text on the home page is visible for only the link
that I previously clicked. All the others are replaced by a straight line
within their respective windows. Reloading the page has no effect. I have
to click a link, then hit the 'home' link to reload the page in it's
original form.

Is this a known issue?

jak

jakdedert wrote:

Michael, in FireFox (with Java), when I click on a link, then hit the 'back'
button on my browser, the text on the home page is visible for only the link
that I previously clicked. All the others are replaced by a straight line
within their respective windows. Reloading the page has no effect. I have
to click a link, then hit the 'home' link to reload the page in it's
original form.

Is this a known issue?

jak


No one has ever mentioned it, but I will check into it. Thank you
for the report.

--
Link to my "Computers for disabled Veterans" project website deleted
after threats were telephoned to my church.

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida