Wow... didn't realize the scope of this...
In that case, it seems there are plenty of people here who think you are an
idiot also.
So agree to disagree and be done with it.
rb


"Bill Turner" wrote in message
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ORIGINAL MESSAGE:

Chuck Harris wrote:

Y'all don't suppose that Bill posted his little rebuttal simply
because the OP politely asked him not to? Something about "stirring
the pot" comes to mind.

-Chuck



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No, Bill posted his little rebuttal because he thinks the OP is an
idiot but hopes he will come to his senses anyway.

Throughout history there have been many irreplaceable treasures lost
because nobody thought future generations would might like to see the
original instead of a replica. A real, genuine B-17 is a priceless
relic of an age that will never be repeated. Save it.

Mr Bill

"Bill Turner" wrote in message
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ORIGINAL MESSAGE:

**THE-RFI-EMI-GUY** wrote:

So; if they don't fly it, don't keep it airworthy, what if a
hurricane comes along, does it just sit and wait to be ripped to
shreds? More power to them, if they fix it they should fly it. I know
of a collector of fine rare cars, he isn't afraid to send them off
to vintage races or put them on the road. I am also amazed how
collectors rebuild from almost zero remains, so even if it gets
busted up...



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Yes, I know stupid, self-centered people too. What's your point?

Bill, are you looking in the mirror as you post?





Bill, W6WRT

"Dave Stadt" wrote in
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If you feel that way you should purchase them and put them in a museum.
Most would not have survived and will not survive without the intent to
fly. Not much money available for the restoration of static displays.
Lotsa money available for flying restorations. Glaicer girl is an
excellent example.


And the Memphis Belle is an example of a static display going down the tubes.
Still not finished and now moved to Dayton, the US Air Force museum due to
lack of funds to keep the Belle in condition. Those machines were meant to
fly and should be flown. It's really sad to see them rot away on the ground.
In the air they are living history, and give peole a chance to experience the
ground pounding thunder of their mighty engines as they soar overhead. And
very ocaisonally one may get the opportunity to fly in one of them if they
are very lucky as a friend of mine did a few years ago in one of the last
Lancaster bombers left flying.

--
Panzer

"Panzer240" wrote in message
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"Dave Stadt" wrote in
:



If you feel that way you should purchase them and put them in a museum.
Most would not have survived and will not survive without the intent to
fly. Not much money available for the restoration of static displays.
Lotsa money available for flying restorations. Glaicer girl is an
excellent example.


And the Memphis Belle is an example of a static display going down the
tubes.
Still not finished and now moved to Dayton, the US Air Force museum due to
lack of funds to keep the Belle in condition. Those machines were meant to
fly and should be flown. It's really sad to see them rot away on the
ground.
In the air they are living history, and give peole a chance to experience
the
ground pounding thunder of their mighty engines as they soar overhead. And
very ocaisonally one may get the opportunity to fly in one of them if they
are very lucky as a friend of mine did a few years ago in one of the last
Lancaster bombers left flying.

--
Panzer


Another grounded B-17G is parked outside at the Tulare, CA Airport
URL:
http://ben92252-01.tripod.com/index.htm
--
CL -- I doubt, therefore I might be !

You can see "Preston's Pride" a B17G at the Tulare, CA Airport if you go to
the Visalia, CA - DX Convention URL:
http://www.dxconvention.org/

The 57th Annual DX Convention - A must for DXers -- April 21, 22 & 23 2006
--
CL -- I doubt, therefore I might be !

"Caveat Lector" wrote in message
news:jqmUf.13996$6a1.4829@fed1read04...

Another grounded B-17G is parked outside at the Tulare, CA Airport
URL:
http://ben92252-01.tripod.com/index.htm
--
CL -- I doubt, therefore I might be !

ORIGINAL MESSAGE:

Woody wrote:

There's a fine line between being a
keep-the-box-because-it-matters-to-other-boxkeepers packrat, and
preserving history.

Do you get it??
rb



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Absolutely, I get it.

You and the two or three posters who agree with you are self-centered
pigs who care nothing about preserving history. Your temporary
adrenaline rush is much more important, and the risk of splattering a
priceless aircraft means nothing beside your momentary thrills. How sad
that people like you are allowed to own such an aircraft.

A hundred or five hundred years from now, if your ilk prevails, people
will be saying "Gosh, I wish someone had kept a B-17G preserved
somewhere. I would have really loved to see the real thing".

I hope and pray there are not many like you.

Bill T.

ORIGINAL MESSAGE:

Spokesman wrote:


Bill, are you looking in the mirror as you post?

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Lame. Try again.

Bill T.

Bill is 100% correct. He should negotiate and buy the plane from the
restorers for its priceless value, say $50-100 million, he can then
store it and show it to whomever he pleases! That is the American way!

Bill Turner wrote:

ORIGINAL MESSAGE:

Woody wrote:



There's a fine line between being a
keep-the-box-because-it-matters-to-other-boxkeepers packrat, and
preserving history.

Do you get it??
rb





*********** REPLY SEPARATOR ***********

Absolutely, I get it.

You and the two or three posters who agree with you are self-centered
pigs who care nothing about preserving history. Your temporary
adrenaline rush is much more important, and the risk of splattering a
priceless aircraft means nothing beside your momentary thrills. How sad
that people like you are allowed to own such an aircraft.

A hundred or five hundred years from now, if your ilk prevails, people
will be saying "Gosh, I wish someone had kept a B-17G preserved
somewhere. I would have really loved to see the real thing".

I hope and pray there are not many like you.

Bill T.



--
Joe Leikhim K4SAT
"The RFI-EMI-GUY"©

"Treason doth never prosper: what's the reason?
For if it prosper, none dare call it treason."

"Follow The Money" ;-P

"**THE-RFI-EMI-GUY**" wrote in message ...
Bill is 100% correct. He should negotiate and buy the plane from the restorers for its priceless value, say $50-100 million, he can then store it and show it to whomever he pleases! That is the American way!



He won't buy it. All the weenies that complain about somebody else spending
their own money to restore and use something will do nothing except huff and
puff like the litlle piggies.


I plug in my boat anchors. I heat my shop with an FRR 59 . I would never think
of just leaving it sitting there collecting dust and rusting away.





Bill Turner wrote:

ORIGINAL MESSAGE:

Woody wrote:

There's a fine line between being a
keep-the-box-because-it-matters-to-other-boxkeepers packrat, and
preserving history.

Do you get it??
rb



*********** REPLY SEPARATOR ***********

Absolutely, I get it.

You and the two or three posters who agree with you are self-centered
pigs who care nothing about preserving history. Your temporary
adrenaline rush is much more important, and the risk of splattering a
priceless aircraft means nothing beside your momentary thrills. How sad
that people like you are allowed to own such an aircraft.

A hundred or five hundred years from now, if your ilk prevails, people
will be saying "Gosh, I wish someone had kept a B-17G preserved
somewhere. I would have really loved to see the real thing".

I hope and pray there are not many like you.

Bill T.


--
Joe Leikhim K4SAT
"The RFI-EMI-GUY"©

"Treason doth never prosper: what's the reason?
For if it prosper, none dare call it treason."

"Follow The Money" ;-P

ORIGINAL MESSAGE:

**THE-RFI-EMI-GUY** wrote:

Bill is 100% correct. He should negotiate and buy the plane from the
restorers for its priceless value, say $50-100 million, he can then
store it and show it to whomever he pleases! That is the American way!



*********** REPLY SEPARATOR ***********

If I had the money, I would.

Bill T.