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Frank Gilliland wrote:
On 4 Jan 2007 04:20:43 -0800, "Telstar Electronics"
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Most of that stuff is not RF related...



No more than your "compressor". But then you didn't specify.


and is older than dirt (tube
audio compressor...LOL)



You are way out of touch with reality on this one, Brian. Tube audio,
ESPECIALLY the compressors, are some of the most desireable audiophile
circuits on the market. The reason is because the sound that can't be
duplicated by silicon. For at least ten years now many major audio
equipment manufacturers have included some sort of tube audio in the
line, and a few make tube preamps and processors almost exclusively.
"Older than dirt"? Right. Sure. And your fourth-generation hacks are
state-of-the-art.


Most don't have any indication that you were the originator.



Except that I posted them to my website, claiming them as my own, and
you can't find them anywhere else, not on the net nor in any book. In
fact, I posted much of the stuff previously on my website (back when I
maintained a website). I'm kind of suprised that you didn't recognize
it.

Anyway, you asked and I provided. Now where's the schematic for your
amp? Do you need more time to modify it so your "design" can't be
recognized as a hack?


Yet you're so vociferous in your attack of my RF amplifier design.
Why is that Frank?...



You know why, Brain. You're just trying to save face..... and making
yourself look like a moron in the process. Honestly, I don't think
you're a moron at all. Not everyone can grasp even the scant little
bit of electronics you have learned. But you are trying to take the
lazy man's path to engineering. It doesn't work that way, Brian.
That's why you don't see hacker companies last longer than a few
years, with most ending in bankruptcy (and sometimes in criminal
proceedings). If that's your goal then hey, by all means, go for it!


when you obviously have very little RF
experience.



LOL!!!


Keep laughing Frank... I never heard a dinosaur laugh before.

www.telstar-electronics.com

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"Frank Gilliland" wrote...

The employer owns the design. I have no right or control over any
design made under the direction of any of my previous employers. That
means I can't use them, I can't re-use them, I can't sell them and I
can't publically disclose them. The only reason I'm mentioning this is
because it was pointed out to me that a lot of people don't know this.


It is the same here in the UK. Work done while in the employment or
under contract of another becomes their intellectual property - unless
it is agreed otherwise. This can be true regardless or where or what
time of day or night you carried out the work.

If a company has you under contract to do a specific type of work for
them, all work you do of that type may be their property. If when you
get home you do, by some chance, still feel like designing, you may find
that they own the rights to the work.


Here's an audio compressor I started a few years ago and has been on
the shelf awaiting refinement:


When you get around to it, huh?
Once you put something to one side, "awaiting refinement", it may be
simpler just to bin it. You get too stuck into the next job to finish the
old ones which you have lost interest in.


Peter.
http://www.citizensband.radiouk.com/


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On 3 Jan 2007 10:27:46 -0800, "Telstar Electronics"
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+++Frank Gilliland wrote:
+++ The employer owns the design. I have no right or control over any
+++ design made under the direction of any of my previous employers. That
+++ means I can't use them, I can't re-use them, I can't sell them and I
+++ can't publically disclose them. The only reason I'm mentioning this is
+++ because it was pointed out to me that a lot of people don't know this.
+++ But it really doesn't matter to you since you were never an engineer
+++ and are now back to your pouting routine. Works for me.
+++
+++Frank, I couldn't resist responding to this. Are you saying that you
+++never designed anything outside of work? This makes no sense if you're
+++an engineer! Still waiting to see a design from you. Something tells me
+++I've got a long wait... LOL
+++
+++What's new? Glad you asked...
+++http://www.telstar-electronics.com/d...s/WhatsNew.htm

***********

Outside my engineering job, designing circuits was as far as anything
that I wanted to do. When your hobby and work comingle, it makes for a
very dull life.

Also indefense of Frank, most major electronics firms make you sign a
non disclosure agreement(NDA). That means that you can not divulge
anything of your job, projects that you worked on or that the company
is doing or is in plan. Usually these last for at least one year after
employement ceases. Also any patents that you file outside work during
employment or within a one year period after employment ceases is
subject to challenge as it might contain intellectual property from
your former employer.

NDAs can be very restrictive. Also they are very binding legally.

james
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On Thu, 04 Jan 2007 22:22:41 GMT, james wrote
in :

On 3 Jan 2007 10:27:46 -0800, "Telstar Electronics"
wrote:

+++Frank Gilliland wrote:
+++ The employer owns the design. I have no right or control over any
+++ design made under the direction of any of my previous employers. That
+++ means I can't use them, I can't re-use them, I can't sell them and I
+++ can't publically disclose them. The only reason I'm mentioning this is
+++ because it was pointed out to me that a lot of people don't know this.
+++ But it really doesn't matter to you since you were never an engineer
+++ and are now back to your pouting routine. Works for me.
+++
+++Frank, I couldn't resist responding to this. Are you saying that you
+++never designed anything outside of work? This makes no sense if you're
+++an engineer! Still waiting to see a design from you. Something tells me
+++I've got a long wait... LOL
+++
+++What's new? Glad you asked...
+++http://www.telstar-electronics.com/d...s/WhatsNew.htm

***********

Outside my engineering job, designing circuits was as far as anything
that I wanted to do. When your hobby and work comingle, it makes for a
very dull life.



No kidding. My favorite hobby has nothing to do with electronics; I
rebuild & restore old Coleman lanterns. I would gladly trade any of
the crusty old CB's from my pile for a crusty old Coleman lantern.



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Frank Gilliland wrote:
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I would gladly trade any of
the crusty old CB's from my pile for a crusty old Coleman lantern.

I have a knack for busting the mantles on them, but otherwise that is
usually the brightest non-electric lamp in camp.


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On 05 Jan 2007 02:19:06 GMT, Steveo wrote in
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Frank Gilliland wrote:
-snip-
I would gladly trade any of
the crusty old CB's from my pile for a crusty old Coleman lantern.

I have a knack for busting the mantles on them, but otherwise that is
usually the brightest non-electric lamp in camp.



Don't mess with clip-on mantles -- they're worthless. Use the tie-on
type. Use a double-overhand knot, tie it loose -before- you slip on
the mantle, then even out the wrinkles and pull it tight. That way you
won't have a loose mantle that will fall apart when you bump the
lantern. But even doing that I still get about 1 in 3 mantles that end
up with a hole after burn-in. The quality just isn't there anymore.




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Frank Gilliland wrote:
On 05 Jan 2007 02:19:06 GMT, Steveo wrote in
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Frank Gilliland wrote:
-snip-
I would gladly trade any of
the crusty old CB's from my pile for a crusty old Coleman lantern.

I have a knack for busting the mantles on them, but otherwise that is
usually the brightest non-electric lamp in camp.


Don't mess with clip-on mantles -- they're worthless. Use the tie-on
type. Use a double-overhand knot, tie it loose -before- you slip on
the mantle, then even out the wrinkles and pull it tight. That way you
won't have a loose mantle that will fall apart when you bump the
lantern. But even doing that I still get about 1 in 3 mantles that end
up with a hole after burn-in. The quality just isn't there anymore.


Yeah like you said tie the knot and don't trip over the lamp, especially
while it is lighted..like a moth to a flame that seems to be my weakness,
Frank.

Heh, now-days we are upgrading the generator instead of the mantle..arrrggh

I can still primitive camp a bit, butt toilet paper is high on the must
have list right next to extra mantles, fishing line, firewood, newspaper,
and such. No oak leaf wiping, please. My wife would freak.

Now we attempt to camp.
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"Frank Gilliland" wrote in message
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On Thu, 04 Jan 2007 22:22:41 GMT, james wrote
in :

On 3 Jan 2007 10:27:46 -0800, "Telstar Electronics"
wrote:

+++Frank Gilliland wrote:
+++ The employer owns the design. I have no right or control over any
+++ design made under the direction of any of my previous employers.
That
+++ means I can't use them, I can't re-use them, I can't sell them and I
+++ can't publically disclose them. The only reason I'm mentioning this
is
+++ because it was pointed out to me that a lot of people don't know
this.
+++ But it really doesn't matter to you since you were never an engineer
+++ and are now back to your pouting routine. Works for me.
+++
+++Frank, I couldn't resist responding to this. Are you saying that you
+++never designed anything outside of work? This makes no sense if you're
+++an engineer! Still waiting to see a design from you. Something tells
me
+++I've got a long wait... LOL
+++
+++What's new? Glad you asked...
+++http://www.telstar-electronics.com/d...s/WhatsNew.htm

***********

Outside my engineering job, designing circuits was as far as anything
that I wanted to do. When your hobby and work comingle, it makes for a
very dull life.



No kidding. My favorite hobby has nothing to do with electronics; I
rebuild & restore old Coleman lanterns. I would gladly trade any of
the crusty old CB's from my pile for a crusty old Coleman lantern.




Amen on that, almost totally lost interest in electronics when I started
doing it for a living.


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On Thu, 4 Jan 2007 22:27:17 -0500, "Jimmie D"
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Amen on that, almost totally lost interest in electronics when I started
doing it for a living.



I know exactly what you mean. It was a cool hobby when I was a kid,
and I still keep a bench at home. But now every time I do something
electronic it's like I'm working and not really enjoying it anymore.
Go figure.



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Frank Gilliland wrote:
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Amen on that, almost totally lost interest in electronics when I started
doing it for a living.


I know exactly what you mean. It was a cool hobby when I was a kid,
and I still keep a bench at home. But now every time I do something
electronic it's like I'm working and not really enjoying it anymore.
Go figure.

My lawn is the last to get food.

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