"Frank Gilliland" wrote in message
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On Fri, 5 Jan 2007 04:16:38 -0500, "Jimmie D"
wrote in IHonh.19219$_X.15045@bigfe9:


Ive been told that alcohol is good fuel for Coleman lanterns. Is this
true.
I tried it once in a camp stove and it seemed to work OK.


NO! Not unless it was made for alcohol. The main reason is that
alcohol (ethanol) will always have some water. It absorbs water right
from the air, whether in storage or from the air that you pump into
the fount. The ethanol/water solution is corrosive to the parts and
you get all kinds of nasty white/green deposits inside the fount. For
the same reason you should never use oxygenated gasoline in dual-fuel
lanterns and stoves. When they were designed it was never expected
that gasoline would ever contain ethanol. Coleman made a short run of
lanterns and stoves that could run on oxygenated gasoline but no
longer (and they are now prized collector items).

You -can-, however, run the lantern on kerosene! You have to pre-heat
the generator to get it started, and it will clog up more often, but
it will run just fine. I wouldn't use it indoors or in a tent because
kerosene will run rich in a gas lantern and you could die from carbon
monoxide poisoning. But outside it should be fine. You can even run a
gas/kerosene mix for easier starting. I haven't tried diesel or
heating oil yet but I suspect they would work like kerosene.




Speaking of kerosene I have a lantern you would love. It a railroad lantern
with mirror for signaling. It was my grandfathers when he used to work for
the RR. He ran a depot for the GA&FL. or G&F as it was called then.. ITs
brass with two big concave mirrors one red and the other not tinted..Only
used one mirror at a time, actually Im not sure if you were suppose to swap
the mirrors but grandpa did. When I was a teenager we actually used it for
camping. Soon it will be in a RR museum in South GA. The mirror is really
the interesting part to me as I have never seen one like it before. IT looks
like it was made by blowing a sphere then silvering the inside and
flattening it. Only half of the sphere was silvered, the part next to the
blowing stem the rest is clear and form the front of the mirror.When the
depot was shut down there were several old mirros around that the stem had
broken on, as you can imagine the silver probably didnt last long after
this. Are you familar with this type of lantern.

Frank Gilliland wrote:
On 05 Jan 2007 03:12:40 GMT, Steveo wrote in
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I can still primitive camp a bit, butt toilet paper is high on the must
have list right

Absolutely! In a major disaster, everyone should know where their
local TP warehouse is located!

Good advice all the way, Frank!

--
Be the rain.

Frank Gilliland wrote:
On Thu, 4 Jan 2007 22:27:17 -0500, "Jimmie D"
wrote in
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Amen on that, almost totally lost interest in electronics when I started
doing it for a living.

I know exactly what you mean. It was a cool hobby when I was a kid,
and I still keep a bench at home. But now every time I do something
electronic it's like I'm working and not really enjoying it anymore.
Go figure.

My lawn is the last to get food.

--
Be the rain.

On Fri, 5 Jan 2007 06:22:57 -0500, "Jimmie D"
wrote in 3yqnh.19222$_X.2678@bigfe9:

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Speaking of kerosene I have a lantern you would love. It a railroad lantern
with mirror for signaling. It was my grandfathers when he used to work for
the RR. He ran a depot for the GA&FL. or G&F as it was called then.. ITs
brass with two big concave mirrors one red and the other not tinted..Only
used one mirror at a time, actually Im not sure if you were suppose to swap
the mirrors but grandpa did. When I was a teenager we actually used it for
camping. Soon it will be in a RR museum in South GA. The mirror is really
the interesting part to me as I have never seen one like it before. IT looks
like it was made by blowing a sphere then silvering the inside and
flattening it. Only half of the sphere was silvered, the part next to the
blowing stem the rest is clear and form the front of the mirror.When the
depot was shut down there were several old mirros around that the stem had
broken on, as you can imagine the silver probably didnt last long after
this. Are you familar with this type of lantern.


I can't quite picture it in my head. Got a pic? Or can you find a
similar lantern on ebay?

On 05 Jan 2007 12:17:23 GMT, Steveo wrote in
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Frank Gilliland wrote:
On Thu, 4 Jan 2007 22:27:17 -0500, "Jimmie D"
wrote in
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snip

Amen on that, almost totally lost interest in electronics when I started
doing it for a living.

I know exactly what you mean. It was a cool hobby when I was a kid,
and I still keep a bench at home. But now every time I do something
electronic it's like I'm working and not really enjoying it anymore.
Go figure.

My lawn is the last to get food.


Hey, maybe you know how to fix this problem: The edge of my lawn that
hits the sidewalk always drys up about mid summer. I thought it was
getting burned by the heat from the concrete but it doesn't come back
no matter how much I water it, shade it, fertilize it, areate it....
and no, it's not from people walking their dogs. Is this some weird
type of grass that only grows next to concrete? Should I just reseed?

Frank Gilliland wrote:
On 05 Jan 2007 12:17:23 GMT, Steveo wrote in
:

Frank Gilliland wrote:
On Thu, 4 Jan 2007 22:27:17 -0500, "Jimmie D"
wrote in
:

snip

Amen on that, almost totally lost interest in electronics when I
started doing it for a living.

I know exactly what you mean. It was a cool hobby when I was a kid,
and I still keep a bench at home. But now every time I do something
electronic it's like I'm working and not really enjoying it anymore.
Go figure.

My lawn is the last to get food.

Hey, maybe you know how to fix this problem: The edge of my lawn that
hits the sidewalk always drys up about mid summer. I thought it was
getting burned by the heat from the concrete but it doesn't come back
no matter how much I water it, shade it, fertilize it, areate it....
and no, it's not from people walking their dogs. Is this some weird
type of grass that only grows next to concrete? Should I just reseed?

Is it mostly sunny in that spot? It may be a strain poa annua which is an
annual grass that dies every summer. I'd have to see it to know. Yeah if
it's sunny there you might consider sowing some turf type tall fescue or
some sort of a perennial blend rye/blue/fescue. If it's shade go more with
the fine fescue/rye blend.

On 05 Jan 2007 17:16:13 GMT, Steveo wrote in
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Is it mostly sunny in that spot? It may be a strain poa annua which is an
annual grass that dies every summer.


Nice and sunny. It comes back every spring all nice and green, then
croaks. ****es me off. But it doesn't get a chance to go to seed so it
has to be a perennial strain of something.


I'd have to see it to know. Yeah if
it's sunny there you might consider sowing some turf type tall fescue or
some sort of a perennial blend rye/blue/fescue. If it's shade go more with
the fine fescue/rye blend.


I'm definitely saving this post.... Thanks!!!

Frank Gilliland wrote:
On 05 Jan 2007 17:16:13 GMT, Steveo wrote in
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snip

Is it mostly sunny in that spot? It may be a strain poa annua which is
an annual grass that dies every summer.

Nice and sunny. It comes back every spring all nice and green, then
croaks. ****es me off. But it doesn't get a chance to go to seed so it
has to be a perennial strain of something.

The **** grass is what goes to seed generally, the annuals. Most desirable
turfgrass is perennial and never goes to seed because you cut it every
week. It never gets tall enough to produce seed... like corn.

If you see grass that's only 2 or 3 inches tall going to seed it's more
than likely an annual grass. It's considered a weed in most parts and
people will pay to try and prevent it. Golf courses hate it.

I'd have to see it to know. Yeah if
it's sunny there you might consider sowing some turf type tall fescue or
some sort of a perennial blend rye/blue/fescue. If it's shade go more
with the fine fescue/rye blend.

I'm definitely saving this post.... Thanks!!!

Glad to help. That's just a stab in the dark but it might be the problem.
It's real common here. We slice seed those areas for people in the spring
and fall.

"Steveo" wrote in message
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Frank Gilliland wrote:
On 05 Jan 2007 17:16:13 GMT, Steveo wrote in
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snip

Is it mostly sunny in that spot? It may be a strain poa annua which is
an annual grass that dies every summer.

Nice and sunny. It comes back every spring all nice and green, then
croaks. ****es me off. But it doesn't get a chance to go to seed so it
has to be a perennial strain of something.

The **** grass is what goes to seed generally, the annuals. Most desirable
turfgrass is perennial and never goes to seed because you cut it every
week. It never gets tall enough to produce seed... like corn.

If you see grass that's only 2 or 3 inches tall going to seed it's more
than likely an annual grass. It's considered a weed in most parts and
people will pay to try and prevent it. Golf courses hate it.

I'd have to see it to know. Yeah if
it's sunny there you might consider sowing some turf type tall fescue or
some sort of a perennial blend rye/blue/fescue. If it's shade go more
with the fine fescue/rye blend.

I'm definitely saving this post.... Thanks!!!

Glad to help. That's just a stab in the dark but it might be the problem.
It's real common here. We slice seed those areas for people in the spring
and fall.

I let my fescue get tall enough to go to seed a couple of times a year. I
have a neighbor who really hated this and she let me know in her catty way.
Funny thing the rest of my neighbors found out what I was doing now they are
too.

I told her it was a good thing we didnt live a little further south. Then
she would have to put up with me burning off my St Augustine every couple of
years.

"Jimmie D" wrote in message
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"Steveo" wrote in message
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Frank Gilliland wrote:
On 05 Jan 2007 17:16:13 GMT, Steveo wrote in
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snip

Is it mostly sunny in that spot? It may be a strain poa annua which is
an annual grass that dies every summer.

Nice and sunny. It comes back every spring all nice and green, then
croaks. ****es me off. But it doesn't get a chance to go to seed so it
has to be a perennial strain of something.

The **** grass is what goes to seed generally, the annuals. Most
desirable
turfgrass is perennial and never goes to seed because you cut it every
week. It never gets tall enough to produce seed... like corn.

If you see grass that's only 2 or 3 inches tall going to seed it's more
than likely an annual grass. It's considered a weed in most parts and
people will pay to try and prevent it. Golf courses hate it.

I'd have to see it to know. Yeah if
it's sunny there you might consider sowing some turf type tall fescue
or
some sort of a perennial blend rye/blue/fescue. If it's shade go more
with the fine fescue/rye blend.

I'm definitely saving this post.... Thanks!!!

Glad to help. That's just a stab in the dark but it might be the problem.
It's real common here. We slice seed those areas for people in the spring
and fall.

I let my fescue get tall enough to go to seed a couple of times a year. I
have a neighbor who really hated this and she let me know in her catty
way. Funny thing the rest of my neighbors found out what I was doing now
they are too.

I told her it was a good thing we didnt live a little further south. Then
she would have to put up with me burning off my St Augustine every couple
of years.




Why would you burn off St. Augustine?



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