On 28 Feb 2007 20:06:15 -0800, "------------"
wrote:

:
. But I just had to make
fun of the way some of the amateurs are taking the no code testing that


I can use all the Ten Meter Band, but it sure needs more activity. Yeah
I'll bet 28.365, 28.375, 28.385, 28.395, and 28.405 will active, maybe?


The pro-code hams have been arguing that Galaxy radios are perfectly
legal for hams to use on 10 meters, even though they're illegal for
cb'ers to use on 10 meters.

Well, IF that's the case, then a lot of Galaxy radios suddenly became
legal on 10 meters from a bunch of people passing their ham tests
without having to take a code test.

And we all now how those hams LOVE those Galaxy radios.

I don't think they're legal even for hams since they can transmit in
the 11 meter cb band with more powwer than allowed.

But since the old pro-code hams have been arguing that they are
perfectly legal for hams to use.....


Galaxies are horrible on sideband. If I were them, I would stick to AM, and get
something else for sideband.

Vinnie S.

Ham radios DON'T have to be certified by the FCC...
a person can even build their own gear if they want. Many folks modify
11-meter radios to get on 10-meters and it's perfectly legal. What the FCC
has a problem with is the so-called 'Dual Use' radios which the Galaxies,
Presidents, Connex's, et.al. become once they have been modified for
11-meters. 'Type Acceptance', now called' FCC Certification' however IS
required for 11-meter radios which makes the above mentioned radios illegal.



"james" wrote in message
...
On 28 Feb 2007 20:06:15 -0800, "------------"
wrote:

+++:
+++. But I just had to make
+++ fun of the way some of the amateurs are taking the no code testing
that
+++
+++
+++ I can use all the Ten Meter Band, but it sure needs more activity.
Yeah
+++ I'll bet 28.365, 28.375, 28.385, 28.395, and 28.405 will active,
maybe?
+++
+++
+++The pro-code hams have been arguing that Galaxy radios are perfectly
+++legal for hams to use on 10 meters, even though they're illegal for
+++cb'ers to use on 10 meters.
+++
+++Well, IF that's the case, then a lot of Galaxy radios suddenly became
+++legal on 10 meters from a bunch of people passing their ham tests
+++without having to take a code test.
+++
+++And we all now how those hams LOVE those Galaxy radios.
+++
+++I don't think they're legal even for hams since they can transmit in
+++the 11 meter cb band with more powwer than allowed.
+++
+++But since the old pro-code hams have been arguing that they are
+++perfectly legal for hams to use.....
+++
+++
+++
*****************

By the letter of the Law, they are not type accepted radios. Or better
yet thay have not been certified for the band in which Hams wish to
use them. Therefore are illegal to sell for use in that spectrum.

Still any Ham with half decent skills can build a unit that would tune
the 10M band and out perform any commercial radio built for the CB
market.

james

"I heard that no code hams are allowed to use the 28 mhz frequencies
now"

Since there is no longer a code test for ANY Amateur Radio license, 'No-code
hams' can use all of the frequencies their ticket allows them to. A basic
Technician class license will now allow operations between 28.300-28.500 USB
with up to 200 watts output.





"------------" wrote in message
ups.com...
On Feb 28, 11:12 pm, wrote:
On 28 Feb 2007 20:06:15 -0800, "------------"

wrote:
:
. But I just had to make
fun of the way some of the amateurs are taking the no code testing
that

I can use all the Ten Meter Band, but it sure needs more activity.
Yeah
I'll bet 28.365, 28.375, 28.385, 28.395, and 28.405 will active,
maybe?

The pro-code hams have been arguing that Galaxy radios are perfectly
legal for hams to use on 10 meters, even though they're illegal for
cb'ers to use on 10 meters.

and NoCode hams

I heard that no code hams are allowed to use the 28 mhz frequencies
now,

Although I don't know how accurate that information is or isn't.





Well, IF that's the case, then a lot of Galaxy radios suddenly became
legal on 10 meters from a bunch of people passing their ham tests
without having to take a code test.

And we all now how those hams LOVE those Galaxy radios.

I don't think they're legal even for hams since they can transmit in
the 11 meter cb band with more powwer than allowed.

can be modified yes so?



But since the old pro-code hams have been arguing that they are
perfectly legal for hams to use.....

did you have a point?

http://kb9rqz.blogspot.com/

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A.E. 352 wrote:
Ham radios DON'T have to be certified by the FCC...
a person can even build their own gear if they want. Many folks modify
11-meter radios to get on 10-meters and it's perfectly legal. What the FCC
has a problem with is the so-called 'Dual Use' radios which the Galaxies,
Presidents, Connex's, et.al. become once they have been modified for
11-meters. 'Type Acceptance', now called' FCC Certification' however IS
required for 11-meter radios which makes the above mentioned radios illegal.



"james" wrote in message
...
On 28 Feb 2007 20:06:15 -0800, "------------"
wrote:

+++:
+++. But I just had to make
+++ fun of the way some of the amateurs are taking the no code testing
that
+++
+++
+++ I can use all the Ten Meter Band, but it sure needs more activity.
Yeah
+++ I'll bet 28.365, 28.375, 28.385, 28.395, and 28.405 will active,
maybe?
+++
+++
+++The pro-code hams have been arguing that Galaxy radios are perfectly
+++legal for hams to use on 10 meters, even though they're illegal for
+++cb'ers to use on 10 meters.
+++
+++Well, IF that's the case, then a lot of Galaxy radios suddenly became
+++legal on 10 meters from a bunch of people passing their ham tests
+++without having to take a code test.
+++
+++And we all now how those hams LOVE those Galaxy radios.
+++
+++I don't think they're legal even for hams since they can transmit in
+++the 11 meter cb band with more powwer than allowed.
+++
+++But since the old pro-code hams have been arguing that they are
+++perfectly legal for hams to use.....
+++
+++
+++
*****************

By the letter of the Law, they are not type accepted radios. Or better
yet thay have not been certified for the band in which Hams wish to
use them. Therefore are illegal to sell for use in that spectrum.

Still any Ham with half decent skills can build a unit that would tune
the 10M band and out perform any commercial radio built for the CB
market.

james


If you are making a transmitter or power amplifier for personal use
then, no, the FCC does not have to approve it. It however must meet
certain FCC mandated specifications. If it doesn't then it is "ILLEGAL"
and it's use can subject the operator to sanctions.
If you making a transmitter or amplifier for sale then it "MUST" be
approved by the FCC as meeting the afore said specifications.
The various so called 10 meter ham transceivers under discussion here do
not meet these specifications and are "TOTALLY" illegal for use by
anyone in the jurisdiction of the FCC. 11 meter transceivers may be
converted to 10 meter use due to the fact that the 11 meter transceiver
has been approved (?) for use by the FCC. Also hams may now purchase
power amplifiers that have 10 meter capability manufactured into it by
the manufacturer. This has been the case for a couple of years now.

David WD9BDZ

"11 meter transceivers may be
converted to 10 meter use due to the fact that the 11 meter transceiver
has been approved (?) for use by the FCC."

Not true. The 11-meter transceiver has been approved for 11-meter use ONLY,
and the approval has NOTHING to do with folks being able to convert it to
10-meters. Hams don't need approval to use it on 10-meters. Also,
manufactured ham gear needs to meet certain specs, but it does NOT require
FCC Type Acceptance/Approval. Nowhere on my Icom does it say 'Type
Accepted."



"David G. Nagel" wrote in message
...
A.E. 352 wrote:
Ham radios DON'T have to be certified by the FCC...
a person can even build their own gear if they want. Many folks modify
11-meter radios to get on 10-meters and it's perfectly legal. What the
FCC has a problem with is the so-called 'Dual Use' radios which the
Galaxies, Presidents, Connex's, et.al. become once they have been
modified for 11-meters. 'Type Acceptance', now called' FCC Certification'
however IS required for 11-meter radios which makes the above mentioned
radios illegal.



"james" wrote in message
...
On 28 Feb 2007 20:06:15 -0800, "------------"
wrote:

+++:
+++. But I just had to make
+++ fun of the way some of the amateurs are taking the no code testing
that
+++
+++
+++ I can use all the Ten Meter Band, but it sure needs more activity.
Yeah
+++ I'll bet 28.365, 28.375, 28.385, 28.395, and 28.405 will active,
maybe?
+++
+++
+++The pro-code hams have been arguing that Galaxy radios are perfectly
+++legal for hams to use on 10 meters, even though they're illegal for
+++cb'ers to use on 10 meters.
+++
+++Well, IF that's the case, then a lot of Galaxy radios suddenly
became
+++legal on 10 meters from a bunch of people passing their ham tests
+++without having to take a code test.
+++
+++And we all now how those hams LOVE those Galaxy radios.
+++
+++I don't think they're legal even for hams since they can transmit in
+++the 11 meter cb band with more powwer than allowed.
+++
+++But since the old pro-code hams have been arguing that they are
+++perfectly legal for hams to use.....
+++
+++
+++
*****************

By the letter of the Law, they are not type accepted radios. Or better
yet thay have not been certified for the band in which Hams wish to
use them. Therefore are illegal to sell for use in that spectrum.

Still any Ham with half decent skills can build a unit that would tune
the 10M band and out perform any commercial radio built for the CB
market.

james


If you are making a transmitter or power amplifier for personal use then,
no, the FCC does not have to approve it. It however must meet certain FCC
mandated specifications. If it doesn't then it is "ILLEGAL" and it's use
can subject the operator to sanctions.
If you making a transmitter or amplifier for sale then it "MUST" be
approved by the FCC as meeting the afore said specifications.
The various so called 10 meter ham transceivers under discussion here do
not meet these specifications and are "TOTALLY" illegal for use by anyone
in the jurisdiction of the FCC. 11 meter transceivers may be converted to
10 meter use due to the fact that the 11 meter transceiver has been
approved (?) for use by the FCC. Also hams may now purchase power
amplifiers that have 10 meter capability manufactured into it by the
manufacturer. This has been the case for a couple of years now.

David WD9BDZ

A.E. 352 wrote:

Since there is no longer a code test for ANY Amateur Radio license,
'No-code hams' can use all of the frequencies their ticket allows them to.

Well, they still have to stay off the CW frequencies if they're not actually
running CW. The frequency plan is in effect still.


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A.E. 352 wrote:
"11 meter transceivers may be
converted to 10 meter use due to the fact that the 11 meter transceiver
has been approved (?) for use by the FCC."

Not true. The 11-meter transceiver has been approved for 11-meter use ONLY,
and the approval has NOTHING to do with folks being able to convert it to
10-meters. Hams don't need approval to use it on 10-meters. Also,
manufactured ham gear needs to meet certain specs, but it does NOT require
FCC Type Acceptance/Approval. Nowhere on my Icom does it say 'Type
Accepted."


That must be why the manufacturers post a notice at the Dayton
Hamvention that the new improved box they are displaying can not be sold
until they receive FCC approval.


"David G. Nagel" wrote in message
...
A.E. 352 wrote:
Ham radios DON'T have to be certified by the FCC...
a person can even build their own gear if they want. Many folks modify
11-meter radios to get on 10-meters and it's perfectly legal. What the
FCC has a problem with is the so-called 'Dual Use' radios which the
Galaxies, Presidents, Connex's, et.al. become once they have been
modified for 11-meters. 'Type Acceptance', now called' FCC Certification'
however IS required for 11-meter radios which makes the above mentioned
radios illegal.



"james" wrote in message
...
On 28 Feb 2007 20:06:15 -0800, "------------"
wrote:

+++:
+++. But I just had to make
+++ fun of the way some of the amateurs are taking the no code testing
that
+++
+++
+++ I can use all the Ten Meter Band, but it sure needs more activity.
Yeah
+++ I'll bet 28.365, 28.375, 28.385, 28.395, and 28.405 will active,
maybe?
+++
+++
+++The pro-code hams have been arguing that Galaxy radios are perfectly
+++legal for hams to use on 10 meters, even though they're illegal for
+++cb'ers to use on 10 meters.
+++
+++Well, IF that's the case, then a lot of Galaxy radios suddenly
became
+++legal on 10 meters from a bunch of people passing their ham tests
+++without having to take a code test.
+++
+++And we all now how those hams LOVE those Galaxy radios.
+++
+++I don't think they're legal even for hams since they can transmit in
+++the 11 meter cb band with more powwer than allowed.
+++
+++But since the old pro-code hams have been arguing that they are
+++perfectly legal for hams to use.....
+++
+++
+++
*****************

By the letter of the Law, they are not type accepted radios. Or better
yet thay have not been certified for the band in which Hams wish to
use them. Therefore are illegal to sell for use in that spectrum.

Still any Ham with half decent skills can build a unit that would tune
the 10M band and out perform any commercial radio built for the CB
market.

james

If you are making a transmitter or power amplifier for personal use then,
no, the FCC does not have to approve it. It however must meet certain FCC
mandated specifications. If it doesn't then it is "ILLEGAL" and it's use
can subject the operator to sanctions.
If you making a transmitter or amplifier for sale then it "MUST" be
approved by the FCC as meeting the afore said specifications.
The various so called 10 meter ham transceivers under discussion here do
not meet these specifications and are "TOTALLY" illegal for use by anyone
in the jurisdiction of the FCC. 11 meter transceivers may be converted to
10 meter use due to the fact that the 11 meter transceiver has been
approved (?) for use by the FCC. Also hams may now purchase power
amplifiers that have 10 meter capability manufactured into it by the
manufacturer. This has been the case for a couple of years now.

David WD9BDZ

The frequency plan (Band Plan) is actualy a Gentlemans' Agreement and is NOT
santioned by the FCC. Technically, a person can use phone in the CW portion
of ANY band, but they generally don't per the 'agreement.'




"Paul Johnson" wrote in message
...
A.E. 352 wrote:

Since there is no longer a code test for ANY Amateur Radio license,
'No-code hams' can use all of the frequencies their ticket allows them
to.

Well, they still have to stay off the CW frequencies if they're not
actually
running CW. The frequency plan is in effect still.


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On Thu, 1 Mar 2007 11:03:40 -0500, "A.E. 352"
wrote:

+++Ham radios DON'T have to be certified by the FCC...
+++a person can even build their own gear if they want. Many folks modify
+++11-meter radios to get on 10-meters and it's perfectly legal. What the FCC
+++has a problem with is the so-called 'Dual Use' radios which the Galaxies,
+++Presidents, Connex's, et.al. become once they have been modified for
+++11-meters. 'Type Acceptance', now called' FCC Certification' however IS
+++required for 11-meter radios which makes the above mentioned radios illegal.
+++
************
FCC Certification is required for all commercial manufactured
transmitters in the US. The exception is for amatures who make five or
less in a calendar year.

Any radio that is commercially manufactured for the CB band is not
certified for the amamture bands. And vice versa. The FCC will not
certify it for both. Also any transmitter in which more than five are
manufactured within a calendar year must have FCC certification in
order for it to be legally sold in the US. RAdios like the Galaxies
and other so called "export" radios are not certified in the US and
are not legal to sell. Therefore they are not FCC Certified radios
even for amature use.

james

On Thu, 1 Mar 2007 15:12:49 -0500, "A.E. 352"
wrote:

+++"11 meter transceivers may be
+++converted to 10 meter use due to the fact that the 11 meter transceiver
+++has been approved (?) for use by the FCC."
+++
+++Not true. The 11-meter transceiver has been approved for 11-meter use ONLY,
+++and the approval has NOTHING to do with folks being able to convert it to
+++10-meters. Hams don't need approval to use it on 10-meters. Also,
+++manufactured ham gear needs to meet certain specs, but it does NOT require
+++FCC Type Acceptance/Approval. Nowhere on my Icom does it say 'Type
+++Accepted."
************
Correct an 11 M transciever is Certified for 11 M use. Under the
provisions of Part 95, an amature can modify one for his own use and
not have to certify the radio. Still he must ensure that the
transmitter meets the emmisions requirements for amature transmitters
for the band that the unit is beign converted to.

I once thought of converting a HR2600 to 6 M when I found out that
with a cut here and pullup there and the display read 50.0000. A tween
on the VCO and it tuned and locked from 50 to 54 MHz. I abandoned it
when I discovered that on FM the transmit offset was still 100KHz.
That would have been legal for me to persue with an amature license.

james
james