On Aug 28, 11:24 pm, " Peter" wrote:
UK CB is FM only.
There is no "talk power" with FM, it is a constant carrier
level (unless some tw@t has f'ked the radio up).
Increasing audio level does NOT increase the distance
of your signal.

While you are correct that increasing your audio level alone won't do
anything for FM... increasing the density (compression) of the audio
will have a beneficial effect on transmission range. This is what
VoiceMax can accomplish on the FM mode.
www.telstar-electronics.com

On Thu, 06 Sep 2007 04:55:23 -0700, Telstar Electronics
wrote:

|On Aug 28, 11:24 pm, " Peter" wrote:
| UK CB is FM only.
| There is no "talk power" with FM, it is a constant carrier
| level (unless some tw@t has f'ked the radio up).
| Increasing audio level does NOT increase the distance
| of your signal.
|
|While you are correct that increasing your audio level alone won't do
|anything for FM... increasing the density (compression) of the audio
|will have a beneficial effect on transmission range. This is what
|VoiceMax can accomplish on the FM mode.
|www.telstar-electronics.com
|
|-----------------------

Brian, have you been tipping the bottle a bit too much
lately???????????

Sorry Brian. Increasing the power density in the audio spectrum of a
NBFM signal will do jack for transmission range. Simply to put it, to
incease range, you need to increase carrier power. To put it simply,
at the reception end the NBFM signal needs to be 20 dB carrier to
noise ratio or about 12dB SINAD to obtain near full quieting.

All audio power does is increase deviation. Using a compressor on FM
just increase average deviation.

james

On Sep 6, 7:31 am, james wrote:
All audio power does is increase deviation. Using a compressor on FM
just increase average deviation.

Exactly, and I claim that having that increased average deviation is
an advantage on FM.
www.telstar-electronics.com

On Thu, 06 Sep 2007 08:40:04 -0700, Telstar Electronics
wrote:

|On Sep 6, 7:31 am, james wrote:
| All audio power does is increase deviation. Using a compressor on FM
| just increase average deviation.
|
|Exactly, and I claim that having that increased average deviation is
|an advantage on FM.
|www.telstar-electronics.com
|
|-------------------

Incerased deviation does not necessarily translate into farther
transmission range. Which is what you are hyping. Transmision range
depends far more on other variables than just the transmitter. That is
the problem with most CBers. They think more transmitter power or
audio will increase range.

Keep beleiveing in your snake oil and patent medicene.

james

Compressing the audio will not increase range
in an FM Xmiter, but it will make you sound louder.
FM Rock radio stations do it all the time.

wrote:
On Thu, 06 Sep 2007 08:40:04 -0700, Telstar Electronics
wrote:


On Sep 6, 7:31 am, james wrote:

All audio power does is increase deviation. Using a compressor on FM
just increase average deviation.

Exactly, and I claim that having that increased average deviation is
an advantage on FM.
www.telstar-electronics.com


can you reference a citation to suport that contention (not sure
either way myself

"one useless man is disgrace 2 become a law firm 3 or more become a congress"
adams

woger you are a Congress all in your own head

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and get ou the newly recovered KB9RQZ.blogspot.com as well

G

On Sep 7, 7:17 am, FrankW wrote:
Compressing the audio will not increase range
in an FM Xmiter, but it will make you sound louder.
FM Rock radio stations do it all the time.

Now let's analyze your statement. Why would FM radio stations go
through the trouble of compressing (not clipping!) the audio?... if it
didn't make the signal better? The short answer... they wouldn't
bother. The fact is that voice intelligibility and range are directly
related. So expanding on that... just being louder... at the expense
of clarity will not help. That is the problem with clipping type
processors.
www.telstar-electronics

"Telstar Electronics" spammed:

spam snipped


They say that the truth hurts, but what really hurts
you is when the facts are made public.

Face it, your bluffs didn't work. You are exposed
as a fake, who simply chants words he heard
somewhere without really knowing what they mean.



Regards,
Peter.

"Telstar Electronics" wrote...

Bottom line... it works as advertised. The ebay feedback
supports that...

Sure, and the feedback from witnesses prove that
David Blaine can levitate himself several feet off
the ground.
Just watch the video, listen to the witness reports.


Regards,
Peter.

"FrankW" wrote...
Compressing the audio will not increase range
in an FM Xmiter, but it will make you sound louder.
FM Rock radio stations do it all the time.

They are not trying to fit their transmission within a
10KHz channel spacing, they have far more bandwidth
to play with.

Also, it's not the only trick used. Something much more
basic is used to extend the range of an FM broadcast.


Regards,
Peter.

"Telspam Electronics" wrote...
On Sep 7, 7:17 am, FrankW wrote:
Compressing the audio will not increase range
in an FM Xmiter, but it will make you sound louder.
FM Rock radio stations do it all the time.

Now let's analyze your statement. Why would FM
radio stations go through the trouble of compressing
(not clipping!) the audio?... if it didn't make the
signal better?

Analyze it a little more...
Rock stations.

Now, what makes rock music better... intelligibility
or just pure decibels?

Let's face it, you can't understand a word they are
shouting about anyway, and certainly not over the
sound of garbage cans being physically abused.

The quality of Rock and Heavy Metal music is
measured by the number of brain cells remaining
after 1 hour of listening and headbanging while
playing the air guitar.

The short answer... they wouldn't bother.


The music industry relies heavily on this belief... tell the
public it's number 1, and they will all go out and make
it so.
Fashion takes it one step further - they can tell the
customer that everyone WILL be buying it, and they
will do.

But you know this, which is why you keep spamming the
group with "hey, everyone has one" type messages... you
see us a a bunch of lemmings.

Many businesses lose out to poor advertizing with the
same line... if it didn't work, they wouldn't bother.
The truth is that some salesman spun a convincing, if rather
misleading, yarn. One or two fell for it, and the others
simply follow them. The more fall into the trap, the
more follow them in.

Business 101... Never follow purely on the basis that the
leader must know the way.
Use such beliefs to sucker customers in, but never
fall for them yourself.


Regards,
Peter.