: Twistedhed wrote:
: I take offense to the "holer than thou" attitude displayed by many hams
: toward Cbers.

I have not found that to be the case...

: They flaunt their "superior equipment" and tell the CBers,

Many serious CB'ers run Amateur Gear.

: to get ham licenses, and then are the first to complain to their ham
: buddies, that the reason the ham bands are going to pot, is because of
: all the CBers that are moving up there.

Many ham friends were cb friends from days of old. I'm glad they became
more interested in the hobby.

: Ham radio and CB radio are both communications services. Both offer
: their respective users with a forum for enjoyment. Each service has it's
: own unique appeal that is not duplicated on the other.

Depends on what part of the hobby your are writing about. CB and Ham Radio
operation have many similar aspects.

: Ham radio is full
: of serious discussions and one can learn alot from just listening. On
: the other hand though, a constant diet of technobabble gets VERY boring
: fairly quickly.

Have you been on a ham band lately..? Taste's great..! but is much less
filling on the serious discussion side. Most Hams don't sit and talk
technical all day long, they are just regular people for the most part.

: CBers are less technical, and as a result, are more like
: talking to "regular" people. Topics are more varied, and you can "fool
: around" without fear of upsetting the "kilocycle kops", and have more
: fun. Dave

I've never met a kilocycle kop or anything like one. I know a lot of very
technical CB'ers who have no interest in Amateur Radio. I know a lot of
very non technical hams.

If you listen to both the CB and Amateur Bands, you mostly hear a lot of
fooling around. Makes things much more interesting...

cheers
skipp
http://sonic.ucdavis.edu

: Ham radio is full
: of serious discussions and one can learn alot from just listening. On
: the other hand though, a constant diet of technobabble gets VERY boring
: fairly quickly.

Have you been on a ham band lately..? Taste's great..! but is much less
filling on the serious discussion side. Most Hams don't sit and talk
technical all day long, they are just regular people for the most part.


I hear just as many radio and ailment checks from both groups.

I hear folks trying out many different frequencies and modes on ham.
I still need to get an all-mode 6 meter radio... Anyone got an RCI5054?

From: (Skipp)
Twistedhed didn't write, but paraphrased N3CVJ: I
take offense to the "holer than thou" attitude displayed by many hams
toward Cbers.




I have not found that to be the case...




Neither have I. What you mis-attributed to myself was paraphrased. Dave
Hall N3CVJ wrote it, not I. That is why his signature, that you somehow
managed to snip and eliminate, was at the bottom. See, he signed it....


Dave








How you missed it or chose to ignore it and misattribute Dave Hall's
words to myself is anyones guess, but not really important.

_

(They flaunt their "superior equipment" and tell the CBers, )

_


Many serious CB'ers run Amateur Gear.




Agreed.



_

(to get ham licenses, and then are the first to complain to their ham
buddies, that the reason the ham bands are going to pot, is because of
all the CBers that are moving up there.)

_




Many ham friends were cb friends from days

of old. I'm glad they became more interested

in the hobby.






Again, agreed.

_



(Ham radio and CB radio are both communications services. Both offer
their respective users with a forum for enjoyment. Each service has it's
own unique appeal that is not duplicated on the other.)
_





Depends on what part of the hobby your are

writing about.




Only the writing wasn't mine, it was Davie's..

_


( CB and Ham Radio operation have many similar aspects.
Ham radio is full
of serious discussions and one can learn alot from just listening. On
the other hand though, a constant diet of technobabble gets VERY boring
fairly quickly. )


_



Have you been on a ham band lately..?

Taste's great..!



I think hammies that make posts like this are too concerned with cb and
disenfranchised with hammie radio. They spend all their time here in a
cb room but can claim communication with no other group member. Just as
it has been shown certain factions are not at all interested in the
rules, despite their hypocrisy toward cbers, some are interested in
advocating nothing but an agenda of hate and discontent..







but is much less filling on the serious

discussion side. Most Hams don't sit and talk

technical all day long, they are just regular

people for the most part.







Agreed. As you so astutely pointed out, "most" hammies do not share the
minority point-of-view illustrated by the author.




_
(CBers are less technical, and as a result, are more like talking to
"regular" people. Topics are more varied, and you can "fool around"
without fear of upsetting the "kilocycle kops", and have more fun. Dave
)


_


I've never met a kilocycle kop or anything like

one.




I would surmise he meant those who try to police others. In other words,
he was referring what he has become. If I am incorrect, you can ask
Davie to what he referred when he used such a term.

_
I know a lot of very technical CB'ers who have

no interest in Amateur Radio. I know a lot of

very non technical hams.

If you listen to both the CB and Amateur

Bands, you mostly hear a lot of fooling around.
Makes things much more interesting...

cheers

skipp
_
No doubt. And it's much easier to communicate in a friendly manner,
despite the fact that the person you are communicating with may share
opposing views.

(Twistedhed) wrote in message ...
I have yet to partake in the lid game of reposting old posts out of the
blue, but I feel Dave and Dougie's cojoined allegiance and the consisten
love they have direct toward myself lately dictates such. One of my
faves....
_
I take offense to the "holer than thou" attitude displayed by many hams
toward Cbers. They flaunt their "superior equipment" and tell the CBers,
to get ham licenses, and then are the first to complain to their ham
buddies, that the reason the ham bands are going to pot, is because of
all the CBers that are moving up there.
Ham radio and CB radio are both communications services. Both offer
their respective users with a forum for enjoyment. Each service has it's
own unique appeal that is not duplicated on the other. Ham radio is full
of serious discussions and one can learn alot from just listening. On
the other hand though, a constant diet of technobabble gets VERY boring
fairly quickly. CBers are less technical, and as a result, are more like
talking to "regular" people. Topics are more varied, and you can "fool
around" without fear of upsetting the "kilocycle kops", and have more
fun.
Dave


_
Betcha Davie smokes Virginia Slims.

damn twist....i remember that......old hamster dave hit the proverbial
nail right on the head didn't he???..........its like i said.....n7's
bother this newsgroup and to that you can add n3's also.............

: Twistedhed wrote:
: From: (Skipp)
: Twistedhed didn't write, but paraphrased N3CVJ: I
: take offense to the "holer than thou" attitude displayed by many hams
: toward Cbers.

OK... we got the message...

: Neither have I. What you mis-attributed to myself was paraphrased. Dave
: Hall N3CVJ wrote it, not I. That is why his signature, that you somehow
: managed to snip and eliminate, was at the bottom. See, he signed it....
:Dave



Check...!

: How you missed it or chose to ignore it and misattribute Dave Hall's
: words to myself is anyones guess, but not really important.


Check...! (sometimes visa or mastercard)

: Only the writing wasn't mine, it was Davie's..

Check..!

: I think hammies that make posts like this are too concerned with cb and
: disenfranchised with hammie radio. They spend all their time here in a
: cb room but can claim communication with no other group member. Just as
: it has been shown certain factions are not at all interested in the
: rules, despite their hypocrisy toward cbers, some are interested in
: advocating nothing but an agenda of hate and discontent..

Why restrict the domain... remove hammies and ham radio to plug in what
ever radio service or hobby you can think of. Goofy people abound in
every hobby.

: Agreed. As you so astutely pointed out, "most" hammies do not share the
: minority point-of-view illustrated by the author.

Check..!

:I've never met a kilocycle kop or anything like one.

: I would surmise he meant those who try to police others. In other words,
: he was referring what he has become. If I am incorrect, you can ask
: Davie to what he referred when he used such a term.

Check..!

:Bands, you mostly hear a lot of fooling around.
:Makes things much more interesting...

: No doubt. And it's much easier to communicate in a friendly manner,
: despite the fact that the person you are communicating with may share
: opposing views.


Visa...! I mean "Check..!"

s.

: I hear folks trying out many different frequencies and modes on ham.
: I still need to get an all-mode 6 meter radio... Anyone got an RCI5054?

Oh my, stay away from The RCI radios... every single one I've listened to
had a horrible reciever front end. Really bad...


Have you had the opportunity to test a 5054?

Scott Unit 69 wrote in message ...
: Ham radio is full
: of serious discussions and one can learn alot from just listening. On
: the other hand though, a constant diet of technobabble gets VERY boring
: fairly quickly.

Have you been on a ham band lately..? Taste's great..! but is much less
filling on the serious discussion side. Most Hams don't sit and talk
technical all day long, they are just regular people for the most part.


I hear just as many radio and ailment checks from both groups.

I hear folks trying out many different frequencies and modes on ham.
I still need to get an all-mode 6 meter radio... Anyone got an RCI5054?


well now you are talking money , which might be a problem for a
security occifer.............

(Twistedhed) wrote in message ...
(snip) _
Betcha Davie smokes Virginia Slims.

Oh brother. Now Twisty's on a Dave Hall kick again....


Message To Field:

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4,5,10,9,4 - 10 - 19,8,22.-

Twistedhed wrote:

I have yet to partake in the lid game of reposting old posts out of the
blue, but I feel Dave and Dougie's cojoined allegiance and the consisten
love they have direct toward myself lately dictates such. One of my
faves....
_
I take offense to the "holer than thou" attitude displayed by many hams
toward Cbers. They flaunt their "superior equipment" and tell the CBers,
to get ham licenses, and then are the first to complain to their ham
buddies, that the reason the ham bands are going to pot, is because of
all the CBers that are moving up there.
Ham radio and CB radio are both communications services. Both offer
their respective users with a forum for enjoyment. Each service has it's
own unique appeal that is not duplicated on the other. Ham radio is full
of serious discussions and one can learn alot from just listening. On
the other hand though, a constant diet of technobabble gets VERY boring
fairly quickly. CBers are less technical, and as a result, are more like
talking to "regular" people. Topics are more varied, and you can "fool
around" without fear of upsetting the "kilocycle kops", and have more
fun.
Dave


_
Betcha Davie smokes Virginia Slims.


Whatsamatter? Upset that I'm not wasting my time with you any more? Or
are you just tired of Frank, George, Aaron, or whoever else is "playing"
with you at this moment?

I've been quiet, and I'll remain so, as long as this bickering remains
the norm. I've presented all of my evidence, there's no point in
rehashing it any further. But this post does underscore your continued
obsession with me, and of those who have truly figured out your various
psychological and anti-social afflictions.

Dave
"Sandbagger"

Scott Unit 69 wrote:

: Ham radio is full
: of serious discussions and one can learn alot from just listening. On
: the other hand though, a constant diet of technobabble gets VERY boring
: fairly quickly.

Have you been on a ham band lately..? Taste's great..! but is much less
filling on the serious discussion side. Most Hams don't sit and talk
technical all day long, they are just regular people for the most part.

I hear just as many radio and ailment checks from both groups.

I hear folks trying out many different frequencies and modes on ham.
I still need to get an all-mode 6 meter radio... Anyone got an RCI5054?


Yuck! Why not just get a used Icom 706? They can be had for $400 or
less, and they are much better designed and built than an RCI (glorified
CB).

Dave
"Sandbagger"