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Please re-read Phil's reply again. You missed the point as to each
administration is free to do as they please. So far, the FCC has not seen to eliminate the Morse requirement. Period. 73 from Rochester, NY Jim --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.504 / Virus Database: 302 - Release Date: 7/24/03 |
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So how's retirement going ![]() 73 from Rochester, NY Jim AA2QA "Phil Kane" wrote in message .net... On Sat, 26 Jul 2003 15:10:39 -0400, Spamhater wrote: Seems to me, the other Keith is too lazy to read the rules and regulations and instead wants a hand out. He needs to REALLY sit down and read the rules and regulations or have them read to him and get a grasp on the fact that you can't just do as you damned well please. Or listen to accurate interpretations by a local communications attorney who is willing to teach him without charge (ahem). He does the same thing on local scanner nets, too. Ready for this one...... he is an EXTRA Class licensee. I'm not going to "out" him further - at this stage. Why is he jumping up and down like a monkey on a string? -- 73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane From a Clearing in the Silicon Forest Beaverton (Washington County) Oregon --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.504 / Virus Database: 302 - Release Date: 7/24/03 |
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![]() "gw" wrote in message om... Dwight Stewart wrote in message ... "Bill Sohl" wrote: The FCC could, however, make rules changes which are based on the new treaty because the OLD treaty is gone, done, defunct, over...even if the US never ratified the new treaty. No nation is now bound by the old treaty at all. I asked Phil about something similar a few weeks ago, and he seemed to think it was not possible. After further research, I tend to agree with him. It does look like the changes to that treaty will have to be ratified first. Dwight Stewart (W5NET) http://www.qsl.net/w5net/ hey look twistie .......its aaaron h voobner..........hey numbnutts i thought you were supposed to move to europe..... I thought I was aaaron h voobner? |
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![]() "C" wrote in message ... My only gripe with the code is the testing. It is stated as a 5 word per minute test. When I challenged the test a few weeks ago I found that it is actually anywhere from 13 to 18 words per minute, not 5 words per minute. The 5 words per minute is a lie.... Why not tell it like it is.... Those giving the test do not want to make it easy for anyone who has a learning disability or not. I have never been able to memorize anything easily when in school, and was accused of being from lazy to stupid. My father told me that I was ignorant because I was partly colorblind. I do not want sympathy, just after studying for almost a year to pass the 5 word per minute test for what it is suppose to be not what someone who is more proficient with the code wants it to be..... If my General CSCE expires again (this will be #2) I will never take it again and will have lost desire in a hobby that I grew up working in for the last 39 years....... C. In article , "Spamhater" wrote: "Keith" wrote in message ... On 27 Jul 2003 15:22:47 -0700, (Rich) wrote: I know a bed ridden quad who dictated 20 wpm to his wife.He uses a straw cw keyer. Can he hear? That is what we are talking about. -- The Radio Page Ham, Police Scanner, Shortwave and more. http://www.kilowatt-radio.org/ There are cases where flashing lights are used for such a thing OR vibrating surfaces..... so being deaf is no excuse either. There ARE provisions. The main thing is, that IF the person is that handicapped, it is up to THEM or their family to provide any testing accessories to suit their needs, to allow the VEs to send the text. The VEs are not required to provide specialized equipment to cater to the handicaps needs. Not trying to be a smart ass here...but...how do you know it was 13 if you say you can't copy 13???. Could it be he was sending the characters fast and making the spacing long. I.E. Farnsworth method, which is the recomended way to conduct a test? If you want to quit. Thats your choice. I would suggest you go to a different test place with different folks instead. Dan/W4NTI |
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![]() "Dee D. Flint" wrote in message y.com... "C" wrote in message ... My only gripe with the code is the testing. It is stated as a 5 word per minute test. When I challenged the test a few weeks ago I found that it is actually anywhere from 13 to 18 words per minute, not 5 words per minute. The 5 words per minute is a lie.... The test is given at 5 words per minute. They use a faster character speed but make the letters further apart. It is actually easier this way because the brain has more time to react to the character before it has to go on to the next one. Why not tell it like it is.... Those giving the test do not want to make it easy for anyone who has a learning disability or not. I have never been able to memorize anything easily when in school, and was accused of being from lazy to stupid. My father told me that I was ignorant because I was partly colorblind. I do not want sympathy, just after studying for almost a year to pass the 5 word per minute test for what it is suppose to be not what someone who is more proficient with the code wants it to be..... If you were memorizing the code, that was the problem. That's not the right way to learn it. There's quite a bit of material out there on the internet on the right way to learn code. For starters, work towards a reflex reaction. i.e. Hear the sound, write the letter. Don't think about the dots and dashes. Practice every day for 30 mintues per day EVERY day or almost everyday. There are lots of computer programs out there you can download from the internet and every person has their favorite. Set it for an 18wpm character speed but 5wpm word speed. Try the G4FON program. It's available for free on the internet. I apologize for not posting the website but I don't happen to have it anymore. Practicing once or twice a week won't get it. You fall too far backwards between sessions. Memorizing dots and dashes and then trying to write the letter slows you down so that you can't keep up. Read "The Art and Skill of Radiotelegraphy". It's available for free on the internet. The author did extensive research on how code should be studied. The biggest problem is that too many people are told to use study methods that hold a person back rather than move them forward. Another problem is unrealistic expections. They see the whiz kids get it in a week and think they should be able to do the same. They're the exception not the rule. The code is far easier than most things that you have learned in life if you find the correct way to study it and put in the amount of time needed. If my General CSCE expires again (this will be #2) I will never take it again and will have lost desire in a hobby that I grew up working in for the last 39 years....... C. Don't give up. Work with modern training methods and you can do it. Dee D. Flint, N8UZE What you just described, about memorizing the code, happened to me. I started to try to learn the code at 12 years old. My mom bought me a record...yeah thats right A RECORD..hi. And I thought I was hot stuff...but when I actually tried to receive CW off the air, at a very slow rate. Listened in the Novice bands. I found I didn't know a thing. A local ham told me I had memorized the record. And that is exactly what happened. He then gave me the ARRL license manual with the proper method and helped when he could. I eventually RE-LEARNED Morse and got it right. I passed the Novice and in 3 months passed the 13WPM General in front of the FCC. I am not solid at 40 or so. So Dee's advice is right on target. Dan/W4NTI |
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"Dick Carroll;" wrote in message ...
If it walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck...... Maybe he's a Dick. |
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I asked why it seemed so fast. I was told by the VE that he gives all
code test at least 13 words per minute if not faster..... I have sent out a couple of e-mails requesting imformation of how tests are given ie, speed and if fonsworth method was used. I do not wnat to know the test iteslf as that would defeat the purpose of the testing session. I have yet to receive an answer from any VE... All I ask for is to know what speed I need to be studying as it all sounds different to me at each speed.... Not trying to be a smart ass here...but...how do you know it was 13 if you say you can't copy 13???. Could it be he was sending the characters fast and making the spacing long. I.E. Farnsworth method, which is the recomended way to conduct a test? If you want to quit. Thats your choice. I would suggest you go to a different test place with different folks instead. Dan/W4NTI |
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"Keith" wrote in message
... On Sun, 27 Jul 2003 16:57:14 GMT, "Carl R. Stevenson" wrote: . the FCC has records of who has code credit and who doesn't, so no-code Techs should NOT, repeat NOT, try to use HF. You are ignorant. The FCC has no idea if a tech has passed a morse code proficiency test and has a CSCE in their hand. -- The Radio Page Ham, Police Scanner, Shortwave and more. http://www.kilowatt-radio.org/ Keith, why don't you solicit the opinions of some deaf hams? There is a group called HandiHams that you could ask--if they would respond. You could also get on eHam.net, and qrz.com and pose the question in the forums. The question, I suppose, would be: Do you, as a deaf ham, agree that the government should require that you pass a minimum CW requirement for amateur radio privileges at that level? My guess is most deaf hams are not going to mind a bit. Note that I said *most.* I am sure there are some out there that may object. Kim W5TIT --- Posted via news://freenews.netfront.net Complaints to |
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