(Brian) wrote in message . com...
"Dan/W4NTI" wrote in message ...

Yeah its tough now Dee. When I took mine is was solid copy at 20 wpm for
one solid minute out of five. Oh well.

Dan/W4NTI

And uphill both ways in 6 foot of snow...

And you couldn't pass it in Miami even if the VE provided you with a limo both ways.

w3rv

You know, perhaps Technician class amateurs DO have HF privileges due to
the reference to the old International requirement. However, where in the
Schedule are the specific frequency bands allocated.

I would need to rereat Pt97, but, my guess is that they either have NO
specific allocated frequency bands, or, they would be the same as the Novice
class licence.

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"Dan/W4NTI" wrote in message ...
"Dee D. Flint" wrote in message
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"C" wrote in message
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No I am not doing a memorizing of each dit and dah and converting
method. My problem is my brain does not react fast enough to decide what
each character is before the next one is sent.

At 5 wpm with Farnsworth spacing, you have around 1.5-2 seconds
between characters. That should be plenty. Are you using Farnsworth
spacing?

Try this experiment: Have someone read a random sequence of standard
phonetics ("Hotel, Sierra, Alfa, Yankee..." at a rate of about one
word every two seconds while you write down the first letter of each
word. If you can do that, it's a good bet you can learn to copy 5 wpm
code.

Are you block printing or writing cursive? I found block printing
avoided a lot of problems because each letter stands alone.

I just get further
behind. I practice at least 20 to 30 minutes usually twice a day if not
more. I use computer programs and ARRL training CDs.

I will check "The Art and Skill of Radiotelegraphy". Thanks for the
encouragement.

Try this:

Set the computer to send just two unrelated characters - say, R and Z.
Practice copying those two until you get 95% or better copy. Then add
just one more letter and practice until you can get 95% or better with
those three. The trick is to not add any new ones until you know the
old ones almost perfectly.

None of us could react fast enough at first. You are not alone. When you
are copying and miss a letter, just skip it and catch the next one. If
you
let your mind focus on what you missed, you will then miss several others
that come after. DON'T TRY TO GET THE MISSED LETTER AT THAT TIME. Just
write an underscore and go on so that you don't miss following letters.
This takes a little practice by the way as we all want to be perfect so we
sit there and try to figure it out while falling further behind. If you
get
a lot of blanks at first, that's OK. Just keep working on it.

Good advice. But don;t be afraid to backtrack as above, to find what
letters are giving you trouble.

When you take the test, you are allowed time to go back over your paper
and
fill in what you think the missing material might be. Here is an example
(using an underscore for characters that you miss on the copy).

What you originally copied: NAM_ IS JO_N.
Now if you look back over your copy, fill in what you believe the missing
letters should be. In this case, the text sent was most likely: NAME IS
JOHN.
Then on the test questions, you will probably be asked the name and there
you have it right there on your paper.

When I took my extra code test (20wpm), I had a lot of underscores on my
paper but despite that I was able to successfully answer the country
question (it was Switzerland) even though I only had about half the
letters
copied on my sheet.

That works fine unless the text sent was "NAME IS JOAN"

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE


Yeah its tough now Dee. When I took mine is was solid copy at 20 wpm for
one solid minute out of five. Oh well.

Me too. And no time was allowed for going back - when the code
stopped, they took the paper away. Plus, if the examiner could not
read your writing, you flunked. Also you had to send 20 per to the
examiner's satisfaction.

But all that has been gone for over 20 years now. Ancient history. Yet
many hams licensed since those days could easily meet that standard.

Note that today's test can be passed by answering the questions OR
finding one minute (25 characters) of solid copy.

73 es GL de Jim, N2EY

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"Dan/W4NTI" wrote:

I like that..sounds plausable. Oh....when I was learning it and I was
riding in the car with mom I would sound out the Morse on all the
roadsigns I could see. Drove mom nuts, but it helped. Not dot
dash.....di dah.

Dan/W4NTI

Do you want to impress me Dan? Sit shotgun in my Belvedere and
tap out some portable CW in a quarter mile launch!

You cross posting fart.

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GO# 40

I didn't initiate this thread. Track it down moron.

Dan/W4NTI

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"Dan/W4NTI" wrote:

I didn't initiate this thread. Track it down moron.

Dan/W4NTI

Just keep hitting send, you ****ing asshole.

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GO# 40

OK. Just for you I will keep doing it. Over and Over again. Everytime I
damn well want.

Dan/W4NTI

(Brian Kelly) wrote in message om...
(Brian) wrote in message . com...
"Dan/W4NTI" wrote in message ...

Yeah its tough now Dee. When I took mine is was solid copy at 20 wpm for
one solid minute out of five. Oh well.

Dan/W4NTI

And uphill both ways in 6 foot of snow...

And you couldn't pass it in Miami even if the VE provided you with a limo both ways.

w3rv

I don't think VE's are permitted to provide limousine service to
examinees anymore. Boy have the times changed for the better!

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"Dan/W4NTI" wrote:

I like that..sounds plausable. Oh....when I was learning it and I was
riding in the car with mom I would sound out the Morse on all the
roadsigns I could see. Drove mom nuts, but it helped. Not dot
dash.....di dah.

Dan/W4NTI

Do you want to impress me Dan? Sit shotgun in my Belvedere and
tap out some portable CW in a quarter mile launch!

You cross posting fart.


Cross posting fart

you continue to chase him and do the same thing your crying to him about
......Loser

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"Dan/W4NTI" wrote:
wrote in message
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"Dan/W4NTI" wrote:

I didn't initiate this thread. Track it down moron.

Dan/W4NTI

Just keep hitting send, you ****ing asshole.

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GO# 40

OK. Just for you I will keep doing it. Over and Over again. Everytime
I damn well want.

Dan/W4NTI

You act like a 9 year old punk.

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GO# 40

Let me try and help you moron. I don't give a rats ass what you think.
Clear?

Dan/W4NTI

(Michael Black) wrote in message ...

.. . . . .


But shift it back to where the test is not just an obstacle
to overcome, and you may again make the hobby something that
society in general benefits from.

Definitive post Michael. Unfortunatley that ethic been hatcheted into
oblivion. Their loss.


Michael VE2BVW

w3rv

The training CD's aren't bad for practicing the code if you know the code
and just want to get better. The real situation is that a person needs to
still learn the code in the beginning. It would the same as if I was
listening to Chinese language and didn't know a word of the Chinese language
versus knowing the language on a basic level and listening to Radio China or
something like that......


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"Mike Coslo" wrote in message
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C wrote:
No I am not doing a memorizing of each dit and dah and converting
method. My problem is my brain does not react fast enough to decide what
each character is before the next one is sent. I just get further
behind. I practice at least 20 to 30 minutes usually twice a day if not
more. I use computer programs and ARRL training CDs.

I will check "The Art and Skill of Radiotelegraphy". Thanks for the
encouragement.


Ahh, that training CD! I used it, and failed miserably at it. Turns out
I memorized the darn thing. You might try a program that sends out
random groups or even makes up QSO's.

- Mike KB3EIA -