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On Fri, 30 Jan 2004 14:30:39 -0500 (EST),
(Twistedhed) wrote: Quite illustrative of the mentality of rabid Philthadelphian "sport" fans....... http://www.pottsmerc.com/site/news.c...= 18041&rfi=6 Police: teen nailed to wall by students Jason McKee , 01/23/2004 OLEY -- Four students, including three from Boyertown Area High School, were arrested for allegedly nailing another student to a wall after an argument over a football game, according to police. All of the boys are students at the Berks Career and Technology Center's east campus on Friedensburg Road in the township, police said. A fight broke out at a building construction site being operated by the school, according to Oley Police Chief David White. "Apparently there was a disagreement over the Eagles game," White said. The building site is a home being constructed by the students on Old State Road. Students from the vo-tech school learn the construction trade during the process. The home will be put on the market after completion. One of the boys, apparently the one who isn't an Eagles fan, was wrestled into the basement by the other four. Using a hammer, they nailed the victim's shirt and pants to exposed studs in the basement, police said. "They were laughing about it," White said of the four who were charged. None of the boys involved was identified because of their ages. All but one are under the age of 18, police said. The victim was not injured in the Jan. 13 incident. Another student helped release him from the wall. White said the four defendants were charged with harassment and criminal mischief, summary offenses. Three of the students were also suspended from Boyertown Area High School, police said. The fourth student is an 18-year-old senior at Exeter High School. Each citation carries a maximum fine of $300, plus court costs. They were also ordered to pay restitution for the victim's damaged clothing, according to police. "I think they learned a lesson," White said. When I was a kid, that kind of stuff was considered a prank, along the same lines as tossing someone into the "bradley" wash basin, or stuffing someone in a locker. I was shocked when I saw the headline, thinking initially that the kid was "crucified". But after I found out that the nails only went through his clothes, I filed it under the "no big deal" category. This sort of stuff is what builds character (boys will be boys). As long as it doesn't get taken to the extreme level such as what happened at Columbine or what happened at the football camp sodomy hazing case. Dave "Sandbagger" |
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Dave Hall (N3CVJ) wrote:
When I was a kid, that kind of stuff was considered a prank, along the same lines as tossing someone into the "bradley" wash basin, or stuffing someone in a locker. Times change and you are no longer a kid. Laws change. Living in the past and longing for the way it "was" is nice, but not realistic. Twas a time many never had to lock their doors.....and so it goes. I was shocked when I saw the headline, thinking initially that the kid was "crucified". But after I found out that the nails only went through his clothes, I filed it under the "no big deal" category. It was against the law. For many obvious reasons. This sort of stuff is what builds character Disagree. There is nothing "character-builiding" concerning a forced physical act against one's will. Forcibly placing your hands upon an unwilling participant teaches character alright,,,,,of the criminal element. Such acts of physical aggression are against the law and for good reason. (boys will be boys). And some will be criminals. This is what I mean,,this is the mindest of Philthydelphia,,,,this kind of stuff is not only taught but avidly defended. Children do not take to violence as a natural act. They are a product of their environment. The act was against the law. As long as it doesn't get taken to the extreme level The courts determined long ago this "level" you speak of, and they have distinguished such behavior as illegal and in violation of the law for good reason. Forcibly intruding and imposing your will against an unconsenting individual IS taking it to the "extreme level." Try that on an educated adult and see where it lands you,,,,,,in the most fortunate scenario, one may need a physician. In an unfortunate scenario, one may require an undertaker. Then again, most educated adults know better than to forcibly place their unwanted hands on another's person. such as what happened at Columbine or No comparison when a death is involved. what happened at the football camp sodomy hazing case. No comparison to rape, either. The court recognizes such, which is why the laws and sentencing guidelines differ between the examples you offer. The acts can not be compared. They broke the law with their acts, despite you disagreeing with the law. Many times in the past, condoning the breaking of selective laws has been vehemently attacked by yourself. Dave "Sandbagger" |
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From: (Dave=A0Hall)
On Mon, 2 Feb 2004 15:15:04 -0500 (EST), (Twistedhed) wrote: And some will be criminals. This is what I mean,,this is the mindest of Philthydelphia,,,,this kind of stuff is not only taught but avidly defended. Children do not take to violence as a natural act. They are a product of their environment. The act was against the law. So is operating a CB radio on unauthorized frequencies, No comparison. One act includes physical violence and forced physical impositio against another's will. yet you vehemently attempt to justify your decision to ignore federal law. Post it. Ahh,,that's right,,you can't,,as I have never "justified" my decision to selectively ignore the law regarding to DX and freeband...on the contrary,,,lids like yourself constantly look to me for validation, seeking "justification' for what I do,,,that I fail to provide a satisfactory answer for yourself is paramount to your communication deficit and hypocitical behavior. As it has always been, I need not offer any explanation or 'justify" my behavior to you or anyone else present, but the fact that you need some type validation from myself has you hallucinating that I offer some sort of explanation to yourself,,,,,LOL. _ As long as it doesn't get taken to the extreme level The courts determined long ago this "level" you speak of, and they have distinguished such behavior as illegal and in violation of the law for good reason. Forcibly intruding and imposing your will against an unconsenting individual IS taking it to the "extreme level." Try that on an educated adult and see where it lands you,,,,,,in the most fortunate scenario, one may need a physician. In an unfortunate scenario, one may require an undertaker. Then again, most educated adults know better than to forcibly place their unwanted hands on another's person. Most educated adults realize the importance of R.F. spectrum management and the importance of following the federal rules which govern them. Again,,no comparison. The fact that you condone the breaking of a law including physical violence against another while you stand there and fondle yourself sheepishly and cry about another breaking a law is entertainment money can't buy. _ No comparison to rape, either. The court recognizes such, which is why the laws and sentencing guidelines differ between the examples you offer. The acts can not be compared. =A0=A0They broke the law with their acts, despite you disagreeing with the law. Many times in the past, condoning the breaking of selective laws has been vehemently attacked by yourself. I find it ironic that you would be so quick to uphold the letter of the law in this case, yet so easily ignore the law with respect to radio. This is just another shining example of your hypocrisy. Oh, I'm not upholding any law, as I'm no leo and am not status-starved like yourself. See Dave, your hypocrisy has you blinded and flailing, looking to me (self-validation) for something to deflect your blatant hypocrisy regarding your behavior,,,not mine. The thread wasn't about me or radio beahvior,,,,in fact, it was clearly marked "OT",,,,yet, the magic I worlk has you misinterpretating, failing to remain on subject, and failing in your commmunication attempts. In case you were wondering, yes, you took the bait and sprung the trap..... Dave "Sandbagger" LOL..it was my post you responded to, not the ohter way around,,of course, with a deficit as massive as yours, I wouldn't expect anything else.,,,,,,shore up that deficit,,,fix that and you may gain some respect for yourself and not need look to others for validation of yourself. The likelihood of one individual being correct increases in a direct proportion to the intensity with which others try to prove him wrong |
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