On Sun, 01 Feb 2004 16:14:47 -0500, Lou wrote:

On Sun, 01 Feb 2004 20:44:09 GMT, "Dan/W4NTI" w4nti@get rid of this
mindspring.com wrote:


"Tom" wrote in message
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On Sat, 31 Jan 2004 23:30:46 GMT, "Dan/W4NTI" w4nti@get rid of this
mindspring.com wrote:

Learning the code, and then not using it, is just plain DUMB.

Dan/W4NTI


No it isn't. The majority of Hams have no interest in CW. Like myself,
we only learned it to get our license. Now, its time has passed.

Then I feel sorry for you.


Don't feel sorry for me. I have a beautiful home, with 2 rooms
dedicated to radios. I have over a dozen radios and 6 antennas
topside. I have no problem finding someone, somewhere to TALK to. You
old-timers want to peck away like woodpeckers. Have fun.


Much like Lou, I have a 2 car garage full of Radio Equipment,
Antennas, Computers and other electronic stuff. The only one you need
to feel sorry for is yourself and the other closed minded peckers.

On Sun, 01 Feb 2004 16:18:50 -0500, Lou wrote:

On Sun, 01 Feb 2004 20:47:50 GMT, "Dan/W4NTI" w4nti@get rid of this
mindspring.com wrote:


"Lou" wrote in message
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On Sat, 31 Jan 2004 20:34:39 -0500, Tom wrote:

On Sat, 31 Jan 2004 23:30:46 GMT, "Dan/W4NTI" w4nti@get rid of this
mindspring.com wrote:

Learning the code, and then not using it, is just plain DUMB.

Dan/W4NTI


No it isn't. The majority of Hams have no interest in CW. Like myself,
we only learned it to get our license. Now, its time has passed.

Exactly. Unfortunately the people that learned the code, including the
"know-coders" that have no interest in CW, have a chip on their
shoulder because they HAD to learn it.

You must be from the 'me' generation. I learned Morse Code because it was a
license requirement. It never occured to me to whine and bitch and hope the
FCC would hear me.

All you do is whine and bitch.

Then guess what happened? I used it, and three months after I got my
Novice I had a General. ANd then what did I do? I STILL operated CW.

Actually those of you that automatically assume CW is just no fun at all are
really missing a large part of the enjoyement of Ham Radio.

Whatever turns you on. I learned because I had to. To me it's boring
and you couldn't pay me to use it. Thankfully, in the near future
others won't be forced to go through the silly hazing ritual code
test, to get their license.

AMEN Lou!!

On 02 Feb 2004 05:42:18 GMT, (WA8ULX) wrote:

The A.R.R.L SUCKS..

Just my opinion..

Bob


Mine to. Can you believe those Morons at "CBRRL" sent me a Request for Money so
they could build a New Station. I took there request form and used it as Toilet
paper.

It sucks to you because they arent stuck in the past.

On Mon, 02 Feb 2004 14:31:43 GMT, Jim Higgins wrote:

On Mon, 02 Feb 2004 04:18:09 GMT, in
, Robert Hawk
wrote:




Where is Wayne Green, W2NSD when you need Him..

He's busy selling paranoid rightist charismatic iconoclasm.

If you prefer the Wayne Green from the earlier days of 73
Magazine, you may not want to visit these web pages.

http://www.waynegreen.com/
http://www.waynegreen.com/wayne/

One foot in the grave and the other is on a bannana peel.

On Mon, 02 Feb 2004 19:01:26 GMT, "Dan/W4NTI" w4nti@get rid of this
mindspring.com wrote:


"Lou" wrote in message
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On Sun, 01 Feb 2004 20:44:09 GMT, "Dan/W4NTI" w4nti@get rid of this
mindspring.com wrote:


"Tom" wrote in message
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On Sat, 31 Jan 2004 23:30:46 GMT, "Dan/W4NTI" w4nti@get rid of this
mindspring.com wrote:

Learning the code, and then not using it, is just plain DUMB.

Dan/W4NTI


No it isn't. The majority of Hams have no interest in CW. Like myself,
we only learned it to get our license. Now, its time has passed.

Then I feel sorry for you.


Don't feel sorry for me. I have a beautiful home, with 2 rooms
dedicated to radios. I have over a dozen radios and 6 antennas
topside. I have no problem finding someone, somewhere to TALK to. You
old-timers want to peck away like woodpeckers. Have fun.



I am so proud of your life style. But that does not change a thing I have
said. Bottom line is you are too lazy to learn the Morse code, thus you
are intentionally shutting yourself out of a enjoyable part of Amateur
Radio.

And further show your ignorance, you state we are 'pecking away'. Wrong
again.

Dan/W4NTI


Maybe enjoyable for you Dan, Others don't like it and feel that being
forced into it is not right. If we are not forced to operate in CW
mode, then why be forced to learn CW?

On 02 Feb 2004 19:36:15 GMT, (WA8ULX) wrote:

Others don't like it and feel that being
forced into it is not right.

No one is forcing you, you have 2 Meter CB and 11 meter CB

Never heard of 2 meter CB, what is that? Have an 11 meter rig in the
pickup, but thats it. I got 2 Meter, 1-1/4 Meter, 70cm, 900 mhz and
1200 mhz Amateur Radio with a FT767GX Next to them in the house. You
know so much about CB, That make you the worst CB'r of all, the one
that hides behind the keyboard and microphone talking crap. You
shouldn't talk about what you don't know.
What does your medical company do by the way?

On 02 Feb 2004 21:14:09 GMT, (WA8ULX) wrote:

I have nothing to prove, to an idiot like you.


Just as I thought another Knuckle Draggin CBer

Yes you are Bruce!

On Mon, 02 Feb 2004 19:13:43 GMT, "Dan/W4NTI" w4nti@get rid of this
mindspring.com wrote:


"Old School" wrote in message
.. .


You must be from the 'me' generation. I learned Morse Code because it
was a
license requirement. It never occured to me to whine and bitch and hope
the
FCC would hear me.

Then guess what happened? I used it, and three months after I got my
Novice I had a General. ANd then what did I do? I STILL operated CW.

Actually those of you that automatically assume CW is just no fun at all
are
really missing a large part of the enjoyement of Ham Radio.

I actually feel sorry for you.

Dan/W4NTI

Now that is a true and honest response Dan. That is what I like to
hear. Even though I still believe morse shouldnt be a requirement in
order to get to HF Amateur, I do believe that the ones who love CW
should encourage its use and if there are those who want to learn,
help them out. The problem alot of people have in there areas is,
Without the ticket, they cant talk HF. Therefore discussing CW would
be non existent for those. Most people dont do CW in the UHF/VHF bands
even though there are a few, But not every city or county has CW users
in those UHF/VHF bands. HF has the abillity to travel a greater
distance than the UHF/VHF bands therefore increasing the readiness of
CW and the ability to learn from others.

I have offered to do cw training locally, I am available to help in any way
I can. But what I usually get from this crowd is negative commentary, thus
I respond in kind.

Their loss.

Dan/W4NTI


It's is probably because no one takes the time to explain why they say
what they do. Hey, I can't deny I won't dislike CW, I just have no use
for it at this time and don't feel I should be forced to learn it in
order to go to HF. If and when I get to HF and I hear a few stations
keying-a-way on CW, I will be the first to admit that I am wondering
what the hell are they talking about? Give me credit here, I am
interested in it, And I do know one thing that I haven't seen anybody
say that shows I do know something about it, You can't send your voice
through the CW or FSK modes.

73
kf6foz

On 02 Feb 2004 23:25:05 GMT, (WA8ULX) wrote:



What does your medical company do by the way?

We provider Brain Transplants for CBplussers. But usually it doesnt work

Figures he can't answer that. Been a victim of his own company.

"Old School" wrote in message
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On Mon, 02 Feb 2004 19:13:43 GMT, "Dan/W4NTI" w4nti@get rid of this
mindspring.com wrote:


"Old School" wrote in message
.. .


You must be from the 'me' generation. I learned Morse Code because it
was a
license requirement. It never occured to me to whine and bitch and
hope
the
FCC would hear me.

Then guess what happened? I used it, and three months after I got my
Novice I had a General. ANd then what did I do? I STILL operated CW.

Actually those of you that automatically assume CW is just no fun at
all
are
really missing a large part of the enjoyement of Ham Radio.

I actually feel sorry for you.

Dan/W4NTI

Now that is a true and honest response Dan. That is what I like to
hear. Even though I still believe morse shouldnt be a requirement in
order to get to HF Amateur, I do believe that the ones who love CW
should encourage its use and if there are those who want to learn,
help them out. The problem alot of people have in there areas is,
Without the ticket, they cant talk HF. Therefore discussing CW would
be non existent for those. Most people dont do CW in the UHF/VHF bands
even though there are a few, But not every city or county has CW users
in those UHF/VHF bands. HF has the abillity to travel a greater
distance than the UHF/VHF bands therefore increasing the readiness of
CW and the ability to learn from others.

I have offered to do cw training locally, I am available to help in any
way
I can. But what I usually get from this crowd is negative commentary,
thus
I respond in kind.

Their loss.

Dan/W4NTI


It's is probably because no one takes the time to explain why they say
what they do. Hey, I can't deny I won't dislike CW, I just have no use
for it at this time and don't feel I should be forced to learn it in
order to go to HF. If and when I get to HF and I hear a few stations
keying-a-way on CW, I will be the first to admit that I am wondering
what the hell are they talking about? Give me credit here, I am
interested in it, And I do know one thing that I haven't seen anybody
say that shows I do know something about it, You can't send your voice
through the CW or FSK modes.

73
kf6foz

SO WHAT DO YOU WANT TO KNOW ??????

Instead of bantering back and forth, you say you haven't heard any
'explainations'. So ask away.

Dan/W4NTI