Twistedhed wrote:
Those Wi-Fi's are out of hand here. You can inadvertantly land on
another's lan and the signals can be overwhelming because of
overcrowdedness,,at times, there are some six to nine networks
available, some will drop out, and at other times, none are available.
Reliability sucks because of the overabundance and interference with
each other's signals here. Infancy stage......


Use WEP encryption to keep others out of your 802.11a/b/g.

If you are interested in Wi-Fi, you have to check out
http://www.seattlewireless.com/

In ,
(Twistedhed) wrote:

My little buddy Frank Gilliland wrote:
What sympathy? Call 1-800-BOO-HOOO.

Need legal advice? Don't buy illegal amps.

How about a technical opinion? Most "linear"

amps are rated for peak power (PEP) for both

input and output. That means if it's rated for 4

watts input, don't feed it any more than 1 watt

RMS on AM or 4 watts PEP on SSB. If it's

rated for 100 watts PEP output, that means

you shouldn't run it any higher than 25 watts

out on AM. If that's the case then you probably
did overdrive it. You could also have some

grounding issues, or a mismatch between the

radio and the amp. And here's some more

advice: Learn what you are doing so you don't

get burned in the future.






Mopar is right. Hell froze over. It must be one brutal freakin' winter
up yonder. Frank displayed a clarity above not seen since his better
days.


I could take that as a compliment if you were capable of understanding anything
I said beyond the sarcasm. You can't, so I won't.


The likelihood of one individual being correct increases in a direct
proportion to the intensity with which others try to prove him wrong


Does that include proof like "...they both use Supernews so therefore they must
be the same person..."? Or how about, "...because I said so..."? Should the
similarity between the handle 'Sparky' and the surname 'Sparks' be considered
"proof"? Oh, that's right, you don't answer questions because that would
compromise your warped interpretation of the 'Golden Rule' -- do unto others
then avoid the consequences by any means possible.

Carry on, Dave.






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Frank Gilliland wrote in message . ..
In ,
(Twistedhed) wrote:

My little buddy Frank Gilliland wrote:
What sympathy? Call 1-800-BOO-HOOO.

Need legal advice? Don't buy illegal amps.

How about a technical opinion? Most "linear"

amps are rated for peak power (PEP) for both

input and output. That means if it's rated for 4

watts input, don't feed it any more than 1 watt

RMS on AM or 4 watts PEP on SSB. If it's

rated for 100 watts PEP output, that means

you shouldn't run it any higher than 25 watts

out on AM. If that's the case then you probably
did overdrive it. You could also have some

grounding issues, or a mismatch between the

radio and the amp. And here's some more

advice: Learn what you are doing so you don't

get burned in the future.






Mopar is right. Hell froze over. It must be one brutal freakin' winter
up yonder. Frank displayed a clarity above not seen since his better
days.


I could take that as a compliment if you were capable of understanding anything
I said beyond the sarcasm. You can't, so I won't.


The likelihood of one individual being correct increases in a direct
proportion to the intensity with which others try to prove him wrong


Does that include proof like "...they both use Supernews so therefore they must
be the same person..."? Or how about, "...because I said so..."? Should the
similarity between the handle 'Sparky' and the surname 'Sparks' be considered
"proof"? Oh, that's right, you don't answer questions because that would
compromise your warped interpretation of the 'Golden Rule' -- do unto others
then avoid the consequences by any means possible.

Carry on, Dave.

Who's "Dave", Frankie? Where's the proof? Jumping from one wild
conclusion to another does not constitute proof, neither does endless
and mindless repetition.

(BILL) wrote in message . com...
THIS IS MY STORY- THERE ARE MANY MORE, JUST SEARCH THE INTERNET
GROUPS!!!!!


The following is a copy of a product return report I sent to copper.

To who it may concern,
This amp was delivered to me on Jan. 9 2004, cod by ups. I hooked it
up properly to my Cobra 142gtl base and let it set at room temp to
allow it to warm up some as it came off the truck very cold. I used it
on AM for approx 15 min with no problems. I switched both amp and
radio to sb and spoke to a friend for a short time,no problems. I
keyed the mic again and before speaking the amp made a pop noise and I
noticed smoke comming out of the top vent. I shut unit off and put it
right back in the box that it arrived in. My radio was bought new by
me, and has never had any mods or so called golden screw drivers in
it. I believe the radio comes from the factory in good working order
and does not require any "fixing to operate properly, thus longer life
radio parts from undue stress. This radio does 4-5 watts on am and a
max of 12(with screem in mic) on sb.

Well right there you say it all. If you're going to push an amp, you
need to TURN DOWN the radio output a notch or two. Never run more than
3 watts (AM or about ten on SSB) out of the rig into an amp. I hate to
say it, but in this case, Copper may actually be correct. And no, I
won't do any business with them.

I use a stock cobra mic and a
solarcon antenna. These facts I have stated I swear to. I believe the
proper thing to do is exchange this unit for a new working one as I
believe the unit sent was defective. This would be the proper thing to
do rather than have the customer wait on repairs, parts or ect. If I
must wait then so be it. Thanks you, William D-n-v-n

Mr. D-n-v-n,
We received your amp back from our repair shop and they said that you
overdrove the
unit and blew it up. The repair bill will be $102.00. Let me know what
you want to do.
Thanks
Suzanne

YOU BE THE JUDGE OF ALL THIS_

Frank Gilliland wrote:

In ,
(BILL) wrote:

THIS IS MY STORY- THERE ARE MANY MORE, JUST SEARCH THE INTERNET
GROUPS!!!!!


The following is a copy of a product return report I sent to copper.

To who it may concern,
This amp was delivered to me on Jan. 9 2004, cod by ups. I hooked it
up properly to my Cobra 142gtl base and let it set at room temp to
allow it to warm up some as it came off the truck very cold. I used it
on AM for approx 15 min with no problems. I switched both amp and
radio to sb and spoke to a friend for a short time,no problems. I
keyed the mic again and before speaking the amp made a pop noise and I
noticed smoke comming out of the top vent. I shut unit off and put it
right back in the box that it arrived in. My radio was bought new by
me, and has never had any mods or so called golden screw drivers in
it. I believe the radio comes from the factory in good working order
and does not require any "fixing to operate properly, thus longer life
radio parts from undue stress. This radio does 4-5 watts on am and a
max of 12(with screem in mic) on sb. I use a stock cobra mic and a
solarcon antenna. These facts I have stated I swear to. I believe the
proper thing to do is exchange this unit for a new working one as I
believe the unit sent was defective. This would be the proper thing to
do rather than have the customer wait on repairs, parts or ect. If I
must wait then so be it. Thanks you, William D-n-v-n

Mr. D-n-v-n,
We received your amp back from our repair shop and they said that you
overdrove the
unit and blew it up. The repair bill will be $102.00. Let me know what
you want to do.
Thanks
Suzanne

YOU BE THE JUDGE OF ALL THIS_


What sympathy? Call 1-800-BOO-HOOO. Need legal advice? Don't buy illegal amps.
How about a technical opinion? Most "linear" amps are rated for peak power (PEP)
for both input and output. That means if it's rated for 4 watts input, don't
feed it any more than 1 watt RMS on AM or 4 watts PEP on SSB. If it's rated for
100 watts PEP output, that means you shouldn't run it any higher than 25 watts
out on AM. If that's the case then you probably did overdrive it. You could also
have some grounding issues, or a mismatch between the radio and the amp. And
here's some more advice: Learn what you are doing so you don't get burned in the
future.






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there was nothing said about the power supply he used on with the amp.
Could have gone down to or below 11 volts which will easily fry them.
If this was a base amp, then I will go back to sleep.

In ,
(Richard Cranium) wrote:

Frank Gilliland wrote in message . ..
In ,
(Twistedhed) wrote:

My little buddy Frank Gilliland wrote:
What sympathy? Call 1-800-BOO-HOOO.

Need legal advice? Don't buy illegal amps.

How about a technical opinion? Most "linear"

amps are rated for peak power (PEP) for both

input and output. That means if it's rated for 4

watts input, don't feed it any more than 1 watt

RMS on AM or 4 watts PEP on SSB. If it's

rated for 100 watts PEP output, that means

you shouldn't run it any higher than 25 watts

out on AM. If that's the case then you probably
did overdrive it. You could also have some

grounding issues, or a mismatch between the

radio and the amp. And here's some more

advice: Learn what you are doing so you don't

get burned in the future.






Mopar is right. Hell froze over. It must be one brutal freakin' winter
up yonder. Frank displayed a clarity above not seen since his better
days.


I could take that as a compliment if you were capable of understanding anything
I said beyond the sarcasm. You can't, so I won't.


The likelihood of one individual being correct increases in a direct
proportion to the intensity with which others try to prove him wrong


Does that include proof like "...they both use Supernews so therefore they must
be the same person..."? Or how about, "...because I said so..."? Should the
similarity between the handle 'Sparky' and the surname 'Sparks' be considered
"proof"? Oh, that's right, you don't answer questions because that would
compromise your warped interpretation of the 'Golden Rule' -- do unto others
then avoid the consequences by any means possible.

Carry on, Dave.

Who's "Dave", Frankie? Where's the proof? Jumping from one wild
conclusion to another does not constitute proof, neither does endless
and mindless repetition.


Can't you function at the intelligence level of us surface-dwellers? Didn't you
even read the thread? Twisty provided his -own- proof! Now go crawl back into
your hole, Clyde.






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He who buys from the communists, will be ripped off by the COMMUNISTS
!
Dave!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



On 5 Feb 2004 15:28:07 -0800, (BILL) wrote:

THIS IS MY STORY- THERE ARE MANY MORE, JUST SEARCH THE INTERNET
GROUPS!!!!!


The following is a copy of a product return report I sent to copper.

To who it may concern,
This amp was delivered to me on Jan. 9 2004, cod by ups. I hooked it
up properly to my Cobra 142gtl base and let it set at room temp to
allow it to warm up some as it came off the truck very cold. I used it
on AM for approx 15 min with no problems. I switched both amp and
radio to sb and spoke to a friend for a short time,no problems. I
keyed the mic again and before speaking the amp made a pop noise and I
noticed smoke comming out of the top vent. I shut unit off and put it
right back in the box that it arrived in. My radio was bought new by
me, and has never had any mods or so called golden screw drivers in
it. I believe the radio comes from the factory in good working order
and does not require any "fixing to operate properly, thus longer life
radio parts from undue stress. This radio does 4-5 watts on am and a
max of 12(with screem in mic) on sb. I use a stock cobra mic and a
solarcon antenna. These facts I have stated I swear to. I believe the
proper thing to do is exchange this unit for a new working one as I
believe the unit sent was defective. This would be the proper thing to
do rather than have the customer wait on repairs, parts or ect. If I
must wait then so be it. Thanks you, William D-n-v-n

Mr. D-n-v-n,
We received your amp back from our repair shop and they said that you
overdrove the
unit and blew it up. The repair bill will be $102.00. Let me know what
you want to do.
Thanks
Suzanne

YOU BE THE JUDGE OF ALL THIS_



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Communist or not, It is a fact that 4-5 watts in to a low drive amp is
not good. I am not saying that was the reason it blew, but you stated
in you message to copper that you was putting this into this amp and
they responded accordingly. Im not sure what brand and model of amp it
was, so I cant say to much on that. When you get an amp, do not drive
it with more than 3 watts unless it is a high drive amp. Even the amps
that say they will take up to 7 watts input are full of crap.

When you get another amp, be sure not to overdrive it. If you have the
radio tuned to the amp or turn the radio down to 3 watts, it will be
fine. Make sure you have a good match as well! If it blows, then it
isn't your fault. In a 142, you can easily turn the dead key down by
turning a variable resistor in the back right hand corner. Get the
info off the net, because I dont remember what number the VR is. Your
forward swing will not be affected by this either nor will SSB.

All though a new amp should not have done this that soon, Copper
should have replaced it at no charge and warned you that the radio
would have to be tuned. Also note: It is against FCC regulations to
use external amplifiers on 11 meters. Not good to admit that to
Copper. They can also use that against you. Even though they know it
can be used there and know it was most likely used there, your self
admittance of this should have been conceiled.

On Mon, 23 Feb 2004 21:16:16 -0500, Dave or Debby
wrote:

He who buys from the communists, will be ripped off by the COMMUNISTS
!
Dave!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



On 5 Feb 2004 15:28:07 -0800, (BILL) wrote:

THIS IS MY STORY- THERE ARE MANY MORE, JUST SEARCH THE INTERNET
GROUPS!!!!!


The following is a copy of a product return report I sent to copper.

To who it may concern,
This amp was delivered to me on Jan. 9 2004, cod by ups. I hooked it
up properly to my Cobra 142gtl base and let it set at room temp to
allow it to warm up some as it came off the truck very cold. I used it
on AM for approx 15 min with no problems. I switched both amp and
radio to sb and spoke to a friend for a short time,no problems. I
keyed the mic again and before speaking the amp made a pop noise and I
noticed smoke comming out of the top vent. I shut unit off and put it
right back in the box that it arrived in. My radio was bought new by
me, and has never had any mods or so called golden screw drivers in
it. I believe the radio comes from the factory in good working order
and does not require any "fixing to operate properly, thus longer life
radio parts from undue stress. This radio does 4-5 watts on am and a
max of 12(with screem in mic) on sb. I use a stock cobra mic and a
solarcon antenna. These facts I have stated I swear to. I believe the
proper thing to do is exchange this unit for a new working one as I
believe the unit sent was defective. This would be the proper thing to
do rather than have the customer wait on repairs, parts or ect. If I
must wait then so be it. Thanks you, William D-n-v-n

Mr. D-n-v-n,
We received your amp back from our repair shop and they said that you
overdrove the
unit and blew it up. The repair bill will be $102.00. Let me know what
you want to do.
Thanks
Suzanne

YOU BE THE JUDGE OF ALL THIS_



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Old School wrote:
Also note: It is against FCC regulations to
use external amplifiers on 11 meters. Not good to admit that to
Copper. They can also use that against you. Even though they know it
can be used there and know it was most likely used there, your self
admittance of this should have been conceiled.

LMAO it must suck to be a keyclown always getting ripped off and no
recourse because your illegal.

Kinda reminds me of an episode of Cops I saw last night. There was a woman
who flagged down the cops and said she gave someone $20 for crack, and they
didn't give her the crack.

Maybe he should contact the FCC to see if they can mediate this dispute.