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I know why its so good the x-terminator has a "NEW COMPUTER GENERATED DESIGN." lol |
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Do your own test. I know the results. The X-Terminator and similar
antennas do match or better a 9 foot stainless steel whip. The copper, silver, or silver braided antennas of one inch in diameter at 9 feet will beat them all. Stop whining and do your own test. |
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On Tue, 22 Jun 2004 20:20:00 -0700, Frank Gilliland
wrote: In , wrote: Do your own test. I know the results. The X-Terminator and similar antennas do match or better a 9 foot stainless steel whip. I -have- done my own tests and I have -never- seen a loaded antenna outperform an unloaded 1/4-wave whip, stainless steel or fiberglass. That's why I am trying to duplicate -your- test -- a test where loaded antennas -can- outperform an unloaded whip. That's not my test. I specifically tested the X-terminator. Although I know there are other similar loaded antennas that should do just as well I can only make claims about this antenna. The copper, silver, or silver braided antennas of one inch in diameter at 9 feet will beat them all. Ok, so you tested 1" copper pipe, 1" silver pipe -AND- 1" braided silver? Where on earth did you find 1" silver braid? Given to me to test. ( large ground strap wrapped around a fiberglass form) Stop whining and do your own test. As I have stated before, the purpose of -my- test is to duplicate the results of -your- test. I can't do that without the information I have requested. It is absolutely impossible to perform all the tests and calculations you claimed and -not- have that information. So are you going to provide the information or not........... Give me a break..............Are you a moron? A a/b test does not take any calculations. Stop trying to make excusers. Is A stronger than B?...............If so is A stronger than C? If so is B stronger than C? Where's the calculation needed to get the relative gain order? Oh hell, why am I wasting my time...... of course you won't because you can't. It's obvious that you never performed any of those tests. They were probably devised and executed only in your imagination, and were nothing more than an elaborate scheme to promote your unqualified and unquantified opinions. No................. You'll never performed the test. That's why you won't stop whining. "Let's see, I used one inch braid over fiberglass..... no, wait, I think it was silver pipe...... no, it was silver braid..... or maybe it was tinned copper braid...... oh, NOW I remember, I tested copper pipe, silver pipe, lead pipe, sewer pipe, copper braid, tinned copper braid, silver braid, braided rope, braided hair and nylon panty-hose! So there! Nyah!" LOL!!! Get bent, tnom. Whine whine whine |
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On Tue, 22 Jun 2004 20:20:00 -0700, Frank Gilliland wrote: In , wrote: Do your own test. I know the results. The X-Terminator and similar antennas do match or better a 9 foot stainless steel whip. I -have- done my own tests and I have -never- seen a loaded antenna outperform an unloaded 1/4-wave whip, stainless steel or fiberglass. That's why I am trying to duplicate -your- test -- a test where loaded antennas -can- outperform an unloaded whip. That's not my test. I specifically tested the X-terminator. Although I know there are other similar loaded antennas that should do just as well I can only make claims about this antenna. You tested the X-terminator, the 7' Firestik (both of which are loaded antennas) and the 108" whip (an unloaded antenna). Your conclusions were that the loaded antennas outperformed the unloaded antennna. That was your test regardless of how you word it. BTW, I still intend to duplicate your test. Anybody got a 5'4" X-terminator they would be willing to let me use for the test? I'll pay shipping both ways if that's a problem, and I'll list the person's name as a contributor to the test if they want. Any takers? The copper, silver, or silver braided antennas of one inch in diameter at 9 feet will beat them all. Ok, so you tested 1" copper pipe, 1" silver pipe -AND- 1" braided silver? Where on earth did you find 1" silver braid? Given to me to test. ( large ground strap wrapped around a fiberglass form) You still haven't come clean on what exactly you tested. Was it 1" silver pipe or 1" silver braid? Was it silver or tinned copper? How was it mounted to a 3/8-24 stud using a hose clamp? How was it trimmed for SWR? How many times have I asked those questions? How many times have you dodged those questions? How long will you continue to dodge those questions? Stop whining and do your own test. As I have stated before, the purpose of -my- test is to duplicate the results of -your- test. I can't do that without the information I have requested. It is absolutely impossible to perform all the tests and calculations you claimed and -not- have that information. So are you going to provide the information or not........... Give me a break..............Are you a moron? A a/b test does not take any calculations. Stop trying to make excusers. Is A stronger than B?...............If so is A stronger than C? If so is B stronger than C? Where's the calculation needed to get the relative gain order? The average (or 'mean', as used in statistics proper) is very much a mathematical calculation. Since your tests produced three significant digits of relative gain which you claim was averaged from several measurements, the only logical conclusion is that you performed such a calculation. If you did not calculate the average then how did you come up with those numbers? Did you observe your "relative gain order" then pick some random numbers from the meter and assign them to each antenna according to your "gain order"? It certainly looks that way since you don't even know how to calculate an average. Oh hell, why am I wasting my time...... of course you won't because you can't. It's obvious that you never performed any of those tests. They were probably devised and executed only in your imagination, and were nothing more than an elaborate scheme to promote your unqualified and unquantified opinions. No................. You'll never performed the test. That's why you won't stop whining. Enough with the 'whining' dodge. Either you have the data or you lied about the tests. Which is it? "Let's see, I used one inch braid over fiberglass..... no, wait, I think it was silver pipe...... no, it was silver braid..... or maybe it was tinned copper braid...... oh, NOW I remember, I tested copper pipe, silver pipe, lead pipe, sewer pipe, copper braid, tinned copper braid, silver braid, braided rope, braided hair and nylon panty-hose! So there! Nyah!" LOL!!! Get bent, tnom. Whine whine whine Excuses, excuses, excuses. You don't have the data. You lied about your tests. The funny thing is that I -am- going to do these tests just to prove, beyond any doubt, that you are a liar and have been lying about your tests for seven years. And I am going to do these tests regardless of whether you step up to the plate and admit your fake tests. I am also going to do the tests with the cooperation of other CBers that can verify the results so nobody can claim that I fabricated the data like you did. Specifics to come at a later date, including the time and location of the test (which I have not yet set). If anybody wants me to test their antenna, contact me via email to make arrangements. Have a nice day, tnom! -----= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =----- http://www.newsfeeds.com - The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! -----== Over 100,000 Newsgroups - 19 Different Servers! =----- |
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On Wed, 23 Jun 2004 06:34:12 -0700, Frank Gilliland
wrote: The funny thing is that I -am- going to do these tests just to prove, beyond any doubt, that you are a liar and have been lying about your tests for seven years. And I am going to do these tests regardless of whether you step up to the plate and admit your fake tests. I am also going to do the tests with the cooperation of other CBers that can verify the results so nobody can claim that I fabricated the data like you did. Specifics to come at a later date, including the time and location of the test (which I have not yet set). If anybody wants me to test their antenna, contact me via email to make arrangements. Be sure to take plenty of pictures to document the setup and the test. Post the results on your website and it'll make for an interesting read. In all the years that I've been involved in CB there have been all sorts of wild claims made by antenna makers and other CB'ers alike. At times we've done side-by-side antenna comparisons, but these compared only relative signal differences in one or two directions only. To do a proper test with an antenna range, with the ability to raise and lower the receive antenna (to test E-Plane radiation angle) and with calibrated equipment is normally a tough thing to do for the average CB'er. But that's the only way to get the full picture. Dave "Sandbagger" http://home.ptd.net/~n3cvj |
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On Tue, 22 Jun 2004 20:20:00 -0700, Frank Gilliland wrote: In , wrote: Do your own test. I know the results. The X-Terminator and similar antennas do match or better a 9 foot stainless steel whip. I -have- done my own tests and I have -never- seen a loaded antenna outperform an unloaded 1/4-wave whip, stainless steel or fiberglass. That's why I am trying to duplicate -your- test -- a test where loaded antennas -can- outperform an unloaded whip. That's not my test. I specifically tested the X-terminator. Although I know there are other similar loaded antennas that should do just as well I can only make claims about this antenna. The copper, silver, or silver braided antennas of one inch in diameter at 9 feet will beat them all. Ok, so you tested 1" copper pipe, 1" silver pipe -AND- 1" braided silver? Where on earth did you find 1" silver braid? Given to me to test. ( large ground strap wrapped around a fiberglass form) Hey tnom I think you meant to say 1" tinned copper braid it just looks like silver but it is not made of real silver. also I see a big problem with your tests is that they are secret tests done by anonymous cbers who cannot be contacted or confirmed or documented i.e no names since one or more of you are probably involved with illegal operation etc. |
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Given to me to test. ( large ground strap wrapped around a fiberglass form) Hey tnom I think you meant to say 1" tinned copper braid it just looks like silver but it is not made of real silver. It was silver also I see a big problem with your tests is that they are secret tests done by anonymous cbers who cannot be contacted or confirmed or documented i.e no names since one or more of you are probably involved with illegal operation etc. Yes, they were top secret. The tests were documented on special self destruct paper. The results were never suppose to fall into the hands of common people like yourself. |
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