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"Landshark" wrote:
Did you get the pictures I sent you? Landshark Yep sure did. Lookin' GREAT man! I intended to send you an email back but I've been busier than a one armed paper hanger today..just got home. |
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On Wed, 29 Sep 2004 00:10:17 GMT, "AKC Supreme Being"
wrote in : "Frank Gilliland" wrote in message .. . On Tue, 28 Sep 2004 23:16:11 GMT, "I am not george, itoldyouiamnotiamnotgeorge are morons!" wrote in : "Frank Gilliland" wrote in message news ![]() wrote in : snip .....I'm going to buy a quieter (and larger) Honda model in the future, maybe a prtable A/C unit, too. This Troy-Bilt is way too loud. Just a suggestion: Shop around carefully for a generator. Most of the 'portables' and many of the commercial gensets on the market are junk. Why is that Frank? Are they way overrated for continuous duty? Too much heat? What? I've not maxed one out enough to have a failure, but was wondering what to watch for. Well, the worst I've seen are some of the Colemans with the plastic end-bell, which is about as dumb as AMC's plastic valve cover, and with more destructive results (got a B&S in the garage from a Coleman with a shattered rod, bent crankshaft and the cam snapped in half). Some brushless heads have problems due to less-than-robust rectifiers in the rotors, which are a bitch to replace. Some seemingly high-end generators are mated to motors that are not designed for such use. Some have poor regulation, some have proprietary connectors, some have limited voltage configurations, etc, etc, etc. What I'm saying is that if you are going to buy a generator, do your homework first or you are likely to have problems. Suggestions on better models? I have a really old Pincor with almost no regulation, and was thinking I may replace it with a better model so that I can feel a bit more comfortable plugging electronics into it. I always check this old thing with a voltmeter to make sure it's not overvolting. There is a hard-drive full of generator FAQs on the net, as well as thousands of posts telling of personal experiences with various makes and models. So I won't even try to make a list. But there are a few things I have learned over the years: Electric start is nice, but make sure it has a backup starting method. A 4-pole generator runs at 1800 rpm which effectivley quadruples the engine life over 2-pole generators, which run at 3600 rpm. If the rotor is a brush-type, make sure it uses 4 brushes. Many generators only have 2 brushes which makes for lots of RFI. Some generators (especially brushless generators) are regulated only by the speed of the motor. That's fine if you only want to run power tools and light bulbs. Make sure the motor has a pressurized oil system w/filter. Otherwise you will have to change the oil every 8-10 hours. It also increases the life of the motor by at least 10 times. This may not be easy, but try to find a generator head that has two seperate 115VAC windings (4-wire) as opposed to a center-tapped single 230VAC winding (3-wires). Suppose the generator has two outputs for 20A @ 115VAC. If it's a 4-wire generator you can parallel the two 115VAC windings for a total of 40A from a single output. This is important because it will provide more surge current for things like electric motors in freezers, washing machines, etc, which need lots of starting current or they will burn out from slow starts (leaving the generator to run happily along as if it wasn't responsible). But if it's a 3-wire generator, you're stuck with 20A and run the risk of burning up your furnace blower motor (ask me how I know!). Keep a stock of spare parts, especially the brushes, bearings, diodes, capacitors and filters. That way you can fix it when you -need- to fix it, not when the hardware store opens back up after power is restored. If these parts aren't available when you buy the generator, don't buy it. One more thing: Run it once in a while! Too many people run their generators once, put them in the garage for months or even years, then pull them out to find that the battery has solidified into a beautiful blue-green mass of crystals, or the motor is frozen, or the carb is gummed up because they didn't drain the bowl. -----= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =----- http://www.newsfeeds.com - The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! -----== Over 100,000 Newsgroups - 19 Different Servers! =----- |
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![]() "Steveo" wrote in message ... "Landshark" wrote: Did you get the pictures I sent you? Landshark Yep sure did. Lookin' GREAT man! I intended to send you an email back but I've been busier than a one armed paper hanger today..just got home. Likewise, I was moving furniture for my brother in law tonight. Putting the top back on Thursday, don't want to wait for rain to put it on. Man, it was so cool hauling the Buell behind the Bronco for Street Vibrations, nothing but thumbs up the whole way there and back. Went early Saturday morning to Virginia City, got there around 8:30am, only around 2 hundred bikes. Left around 11:30am, some 7,000+ bikes, a 4 mile line of bikes coming up and over the hill into Virginia City. Landshark -- __ o /' ) /' ( , __/' ) .' `; o _.-~~~~' ``---..__ .' ; _.--' b) LANDSHARK ``--...____. .' ( _. )). `-._ `\|\|\|\|)-.....___.- `-. __...--'-.'. `---......____...---`.___.'----... .' `.; `-` ` |
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"Landshark" wrote:
"Steveo" wrote in message ... "Landshark" wrote: Did you get the pictures I sent you? Landshark Yep sure did. Lookin' GREAT man! I intended to send you an email back but I've been busier than a one armed paper hanger today..just got home. Likewise, I was moving furniture for my brother in law tonight. Putting the top back on Thursday, don't want to wait for rain to put it on. Man, it was so cool hauling the Buell behind the Bronco for Street Vibrations, nothing but thumbs up the whole way there and back. Went early Saturday morning to Virginia City, got there around 8:30am, only around 2 hundred bikes. Left around 11:30am, some 7,000+ bikes, a 4 mile line of bikes coming up and over the hill into Virginia City. Landshark Sounds like a fun combo, Buell and Bronco. 7000 bikes wow! |
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![]() "Frank Gilliland" wrote in message ... On Wed, 29 Sep 2004 00:10:17 GMT, "AKC Supreme Being" wrote in : "Frank Gilliland" wrote in message . .. On Tue, 28 Sep 2004 23:16:11 GMT, "I am not george, itoldyouiamnotiamnotgeorge are morons!" wrote in : "Frank Gilliland" wrote in message news ![]() wrote in : snip .....I'm going to buy a quieter (and larger) Honda model in the future, maybe a prtable A/C unit, too. This Troy-Bilt is way too loud. Just a suggestion: Shop around carefully for a generator. Most of the 'portables' and many of the commercial gensets on the market are junk. Why is that Frank? Are they way overrated for continuous duty? Too much heat? What? I've not maxed one out enough to have a failure, but was wondering what to watch for. Well, the worst I've seen are some of the Colemans with the plastic end-bell, which is about as dumb as AMC's plastic valve cover, and with more destructive results (got a B&S in the garage from a Coleman with a shattered rod, bent crankshaft and the cam snapped in half). Some brushless heads have problems due to less-than-robust rectifiers in the rotors, which are a bitch to replace. Some seemingly high-end generators are mated to motors that are not designed for such use. Some have poor regulation, some have proprietary connectors, some have limited voltage configurations, etc, etc, etc. What I'm saying is that if you are going to buy a generator, do your homework first or you are likely to have problems. Suggestions on better models? I have a really old Pincor with almost no regulation, and was thinking I may replace it with a better model so that I can feel a bit more comfortable plugging electronics into it. I always check this old thing with a voltmeter to make sure it's not overvolting. There is a hard-drive full of generator FAQs on the net, as well as thousands of posts telling of personal experiences with various makes and models. So I won't even try to make a list. But there are a few things I have learned over the years: Electric start is nice, but make sure it has a backup starting method. A 4-pole generator runs at 1800 rpm which effectivley quadruples the engine life over 2-pole generators, which run at 3600 rpm. If the rotor is a brush-type, make sure it uses 4 brushes. Many generators only have 2 brushes which makes for lots of RFI. Some generators (especially brushless generators) are regulated only by the speed of the motor. That's fine if you only want to run power tools and light bulbs. Make sure the motor has a pressurized oil system w/filter. Otherwise you will have to change the oil every 8-10 hours. It also increases the life of the motor by at least 10 times. This may not be easy, but try to find a generator head that has two seperate 115VAC windings (4-wire) as opposed to a center-tapped single 230VAC winding (3-wires). Suppose the generator has two outputs for 20A @ 115VAC. If it's a 4-wire generator you can parallel the two 115VAC windings for a total of 40A from a single output. This is important because it will provide more surge current for things like electric motors in freezers, washing machines, etc, which need lots of starting current or they will burn out from slow starts (leaving the generator to run happily along as if it wasn't responsible). But if it's a 3-wire generator, you're stuck with 20A and run the risk of burning up your furnace blower motor (ask me how I know!). Keep a stock of spare parts, especially the brushes, bearings, diodes, capacitors and filters. That way you can fix it when you -need- to fix it, not when the hardware store opens back up after power is restored. If these parts aren't available when you buy the generator, don't buy it. One more thing: Run it once in a while! Too many people run their generators once, put them in the garage for months or even years, then pull them out to find that the battery has solidified into a beautiful blue-green mass of crystals, or the motor is frozen, or the carb is gummed up because they didn't drain the bowl. Corporate radio plants are getting rid of their old gas gennies that they used to power their transmitter shack and going to diesel to power the whole plant, offices and all. The station I worked for just got rid of a 200A single phase Onan 6 cylinder for the price of the title transfer and delivery (dirt cheap) this also included the automatic transfer switch. and wiring to transfer switch I wish I would have jumped on that. I just moved from the city to, well, Bum **** Egypt and I know my power will fail this winter. The cool thing about gas over diesel at this point is that gas engines can be converted to propane and I have a big ass propane tank. Oh well, hindsight is 20/20. Watch Radio World it's a trade rag for broadcast engineers, there's always a couple in there. Chad |
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From: =A0=A0 Frank Gilliland
Group: =A0=A0 rec.radio.cb Subject: =A0=A0 OT ping Jim Date: =A0=A0 Tue, Sep 28, 2004, 12:19pm (EDT-3) X-Trace: =A0=A0 corp.newsgroups.com 1096399093 216.64.140.196 (28 Sep 2004 14:18:13 -0500) X-Comments: =A0=A0 This message was posted through A href X-Comments2: =A0=A0 IMPORTANT: Newsfeed.com does not condone X-Report: =A0=A0 Please report illegal or inappropriate use to Organization: =A0=A0 Newsfeeds.com http://www.newsfeeds.com 100,000+ UNCENSORED Newsgroups. On Tue, 28 Sep 2004 11:43:37 -0400, (Twistedhed) wrote in : snip .....I'm going to buy a quieter (and larger) Honda model in the future, maybe a prtable A/C unit, too. This Troy-Bilt is way too loud. _ (Just a suggestion: Shop around carefully for a generator. Most of the 'portables' and many of the commercial gensets on the market are junk. BTW, did you get my last email? ) -----=3D Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =3D----- http://www.newsfeeds.com - The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! -----=3D=3D Over 100,000 Newsgroups - 19 Different Servers! =3D----- - Any suggestions? What say you of the Honda's? I like the Troy-Bilt but its way too loud. Yea, I got it,,,,,as I said, I'm slammed right now, but I most certainly am going to do some digging when I'm caught up,,,,probably another week or two. |
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Kennelmaster of rec.radio's puppy pound, wrote:
Same way you northern folks feel down here in the summer when the temp is 98 and the humidity is two percent above that! ;-) _ Oh yea, that. We call that APRILMAYJUNEJULYAUGUSTSEPTEMBER You can always tell the newbie tourists,,,,they stay in the water all day to avoid the heat and try and cool off. You can recognize them by the white gobs of sun block their wives smear on them in the late afternoon on top of their lobster-like appearance, but by then it is too late. They are usually in the emergency room by 9:00 PM, hungry, because they didn't have dinner due to the hours of ambivalance spent deciding whether or not to go to the ER, agreeing to go and seek treatment only when the blisters begin to appear when the sun goes down. These type yanks never return and marvelously blame their amazing and miserable experience on the state itself. 'Ol Sol serves as a sort of weeding process at times g. |
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From: (Steveo)
(Twistedhed) wrote: From: (Steveo) (Twistedhed) wrote: From: (Steveo) Did I ever show you the pic of my Charger winning the burnout contest? http://img8.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img8&image=mobmain.jpg _ How did all that white smoke come about with no pavement? Super cool photo! _ (Hi Twist, the back tires are on a big ole steel plate that has been watered down right before the burnout..there's no traction at all.) Ha,,,,,betcha that smelled like, like,,,,,,big fun. Only thing missing was the RF drag race on another launching pad. _ Speaking of pics, my buddy was here form West Palm (evacuee from Jeanne) and when the damn storm came here (we are still without electric and I'm on a generator so I probably won't be around again until the electric gets turned on) he took some super pics of the palm trees on my property during the eye-wall. When he gets back home and sends them to me, I'll post them. _ (Cool, do you have a generator down there for when you lose power? _ Absolutely. Using a Troy-Built now..only 3550 watts, 6.75 HP....but it's plenty enough to run the fridge, clothes washer, big screen (wife can't do without her 24 hour local news channel), box fan, cb/hammie radio and the most important of all,,,,,the coffee maker in the morning.I'm going to buy a quieter (and larger) Honda model in the future, maybe a prtable A/C unit, too. This Troy-Bilt is way too loud. Kind of neat when a large load is placed on it though, it never chugs, just "shifts gears" by changing the pitch of the engine. It delivers excellent performance..too bad it wasn't quieter. BTW, our power was restored late last night,,many still without power. _ Yea, I have a 5K that is really LOUD! It works fine but you can't be near it because of the noise. My friend had a Honda at the Bristol Nascar race that we ran 3 campers off of. You could sit right next to that thing it was so quiet. Really a nice unit. Glad you got your power back. _ That's the type generator I'm talking about. Glad to know someone that actually had an experience with one, 'cause I never tried them. I think I may rent one for a weekend to take camping to get a better feel for it. |
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Frank Gilliland wrote:
(There is a hard-drive full of generator FAQs on the net, as well as thousands of posts telling of personal experiences with various makes and models. So I won't even try to make a list. But there are a few things I have learned over the years: Electric start is nice, but make sure it has a backup starting method. A 4-pole generator runs at 1800 rpm which effectivley quadruples the engine life over 2-pole generators, which run at 3600 rpm. If the rotor is a brush-type, make sure it uses 4 brushes. Many generators only have 2 brushes which makes for lots of RFI. Some generators (especially brushless generators) are regulated only by the speed of the motor. That's fine if you only want to run power tools and light bulbs. Make sure the motor has a pressurized oil system w/filter. Otherwise you will have to change the oil every 8-10 hours. It also increases the life of the motor by at least 10 times. This may not be easy, but try to find a generator head that has two seperate 115VAC windings (4-wire) as opposed to a center-tapped single 230VAC winding (3-wires). Suppose the generator has two outputs for 20A @ 115VAC. If it's a 4-wire generator you can parallel the two 115VAC windings for a total of 40A from a single output. This is important because it will provide more surge current for things like electric motors in freezers, washing machines, etc, which need lots of starting current or they will burn out from slow starts (leaving the generator to run happily along as if it wasn't responsible). But if it's a 3-wire generator, you're stuck with 20A and run the risk of burning up your furnace blower motor (ask me how I know!). ) - Haha,,,,that sucks! I'm chuckling because for a moment there you had me calculating the price of a new washer, even though this one is only a few years old. I guess the Troy-Bilt was made for this stuff, 'cause I ran several other things while the washer cycled. - (Keep a stock of spare parts, especially the brushes, bearings, diodes, capacitors and filters. That way you can fix it when you -need- to fix it, not when the hardware store opens back up after power is restored. If these parts aren't available when you buy the generator, don't buy it. One more thing: Run it once in a while! Too many people run their generators once, put them in the garage for months or even years, then pull them out to find that the battery has solidified into a beautiful blue-green mass of crystals, or the motor is frozen, or the carb is gummed up because they didn't drain the bowl.) -----= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =----- http://www.newsfeeds.com - The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! -----== Thanks Frank,,,now I need to bone up on these brushes and les you speak of,,eventually. |
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