On Fri, 8 Oct 2004 09:16:14 -0400, (Twistedhed)
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BTW, what's the status....?

On Fri, 08 Oct 2004 06:06:25 -0700, Frank Gilliland
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On Fri, 08 Oct 2004 07:19:24 -0400, Dave Hall
wrote in :

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It's a shame. I grew up listening to some real radio talent (Who
didn't have to mention bodily functions every few minutes to get a
laugh). I really liked the Drake/Chenault "Boss Radio" format which
started at KHJ in Los Angeles and migrated to my area at some really
great stations like WFIL in Phila, and WABC in New York.


My favorite was CBS Radio Mystery Theatre hosted by E. G. Marshall.
When that was canceled it was the beginning of the end of r adio,IMHO.

Are you referring to the original programs which aired in the 40's,
or the "revival" programs which aired in the 70's?

Dave
"Sandbagger"
http://home.ptd.net/~n3cvj

"Frank Gilliland" wrote in message
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On Fri, 08 Oct 2004 07:19:24 -0400, Dave Hall
wrote in :

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It's a shame. I grew up listening to some real radio talent (Who
didn't have to mention bodily functions every few minutes to get a
laugh). I really liked the Drake/Chenault "Boss Radio" format which
started at KHJ in Los Angeles and migrated to my area at some really
great stations like WFIL in Phila, and WABC in New York.


My favorite was CBS Radio Mystery Theatre hosted by E. G. Marshall.
When that was canceled it was the beginning of the end of radio, IMHO.


Man, I really loved that show!!!!!!!!

On Fri, 8 Oct 2004 10:02:21 -0500, "Chad Wahls"
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"Frank Gilliland" wrote in message
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Audio repair, eh? Did you learn about Peavey's dual-diode bias scheme
the easy way or the hard way?

I was head tech at a Peavey service center, I learned it the easy way.
(thanks Max H.) Ever taken apart a 1200D powered mixer? One of my peavey
peves Ranks up there with a root canal. I never want to see another one
of those XLR jacks again


Never touched one, but I've never seen a mixer that wasn't a pain to
disassemble. On that subject, the old rack-mount Carver's get my vote
as the biggest hardware headache. Whoever designed the layout in those
things was either a super-genius or an LSD freak.


I was also the undisputed king of the DPC line of amps because we serviced a
nation wide DJ service that had hundreds of them. I can do those with my
eyes closed, If you ever need a hand on those I know most all of the
"tricks". They can be intimidating at first but there's ways to make them
easy. Those IGBT's are quite expensive!


I heard they had problems with self-oscillation. Is that just a rumor?


Mackie is a headache with screws, Kurtzweil is the worst, yadada yadada. I
could talk shop and stupid musicians for days. Maybe I should attend the
picnic.


Mackie sucks. But Behringer kicks ass inside and out! The only thing
I've -ever- had to do to a Behringer was replace the occasional busted
or missing knob.






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"Frank Gilliland" wrote in message
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On Fri, 8 Oct 2004 10:02:21 -0500, "Chad Wahls"
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"Frank Gilliland" wrote in message
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Audio repair, eh? Did you learn about Peavey's dual-diode bias scheme
the easy way or the hard way?

I was head tech at a Peavey service center, I learned it the easy way.
(thanks Max H.) Ever taken apart a 1200D powered mixer? One of my peavey
peves Ranks up there with a root canal. I never want to see another
one
of those XLR jacks again


Never touched one, but I've never seen a mixer that wasn't a pain to
disassemble. On that subject, the old rack-mount Carver's get my vote
as the biggest hardware headache. Whoever designed the layout in those
things was either a super-genius or an LSD freak.


Agreed on the Carver!!! Every time I open one I think "wow, does it HAVE to
be this hard?" I have a PM350 at home on the bench now, make that two


I was also the undisputed king of the DPC line of amps because we serviced
a
nation wide DJ service that had hundreds of them. I can do those with my
eyes closed, If you ever need a hand on those I know most all of the
"tricks". They can be intimidating at first but there's ways to make them
easy. Those IGBT's are quite expensive!


I heard they had problems with self-oscillation. Is that just a rumor?



Nope not a rumor. After time and abuse the filter networks on the ass end
of the output section age. You can dial it back in with the tuning
inductors, but if it has been run really hard then replacing the section is
best, it's cheaper than a rebuild down the road when it finally takes off.
Ironically you can tune it with a scope and an old tube AM radio, yes folks
an AM radio! You watch the scope till you get the junk out of the outputs
then liastn to the radio, when you can hear your talk radio again then it's
tuned, crude but amazingly effective.

Mackie is a headache with screws, Kurtzweil is the worst, yadada yadada.
I
could talk shop and stupid musicians for days. Maybe I should attend the
picnic.


Mackie sucks. But Behringer kicks ass inside and out! The only thing
I've -ever- had to do to a Behringer was replace the occasional busted
or missing knob.



I've been inside the occasional Behringer to repair cold solder etc in the
old daze, they had notorious QC problems, but in the past few years they
have come leaps and bounds. I still have to turn them away due to
difficulty obtaining parts. I recently bought a couple of their DI boxes
and you can't beat them for twice the price. I'm seriously looking into
their DSP2496 system controllers right now.

Chad

On Mon, 11 Oct 2004 08:13:19 -0500, "Chad Wahls"
wrote in :


"Frank Gilliland" wrote in message
.. .
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I heard they had problems with self-oscillation. Is that just a rumor?



Nope not a rumor. After time and abuse the filter networks on the ass end
of the output section age. You can dial it back in with the tuning
inductors, but if it has been run really hard then replacing the section is
best, it's cheaper than a rebuild down the road when it finally takes off.
Ironically you can tune it with a scope and an old tube AM radio, yes folks
an AM radio! You watch the scope till you get the junk out of the outputs
then liastn to the radio, when you can hear your talk radio again then it's
tuned, crude but amazingly effective.


Holy crap..... I saved this post in case I ever have to work on one!


Mackie is a headache with screws, Kurtzweil is the worst, yadada yadada.
I
could talk shop and stupid musicians for days. Maybe I should attend the
picnic.


Mackie sucks. But Behringer kicks ass inside and out! The only thing
I've -ever- had to do to a Behringer was replace the occasional busted
or missing knob.



I've been inside the occasional Behringer to repair cold solder etc in the
old daze, they had notorious QC problems, but in the past few years they
have come leaps and bounds. I still have to turn them away due to
difficulty obtaining parts. I recently bought a couple of their DI boxes
and you can't beat them for twice the price. I'm seriously looking into
their DSP2496 system controllers right now.


I have a friend that runs some Behringer stuff in his band. He uses a
lot of sequences, too. I'll give him a call and ask exactly what he
runs and what he recommends.






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Dear Chad,

We're sorry to hear that you're having difficulty locating spare parts
for Behringer equipment.
This is our first post into this group - and apart from the spares, we
are delighted to hear what you all have to say about our products !
Usually it's not a problem to get hold of our spares, but perhaps you
need to find a better point of contact ? We're assuming that you're
based in mainland USA, so we've taken the liberty to forward your
details to the service manger at Behringer USA. He'll be in touch with
you shortly, and we're sure that he can guide you to the most
appropriate source.

Best regards,

Andy Cullen

Customer Support Administrator
BEHRINGER Spezielle Studiotechnik GmbH





"Chad Wahls" wrote in message ...
Mackie sucks. But Behringer kicks ass inside and out! The only thing
I've -ever- had to do to a Behringer was replace the occasional busted
or missing knob.



I've been inside the occasional Behringer to repair cold solder etc in the
old daze, they had notorious QC problems, but in the past few years they
have come leaps and bounds. I still have to turn them away due to
difficulty obtaining parts. I recently bought a couple of their DI boxes
and you can't beat them for twice the price. I'm seriously looking into

their DSP2496 system controllers right now.

Chad

"Frank Gilliland" wrote in message
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On Mon, 11 Oct 2004 08:13:19 -0500, "Chad Wahls"
wrote in :


"Frank Gilliland" wrote in message
. ..
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I heard they had problems with self-oscillation. Is that just a rumor?



Nope not a rumor. After time and abuse the filter networks on the ass end
of the output section age. You can dial it back in with the tuning
inductors, but if it has been run really hard then replacing the section
is
best, it's cheaper than a rebuild down the road when it finally takes off.
Ironically you can tune it with a scope and an old tube AM radio, yes
folks
an AM radio! You watch the scope till you get the junk out of the outputs
then liastn to the radio, when you can hear your talk radio again then
it's
tuned, crude but amazingly effective.


Holy crap..... I saved this post in case I ever have to work on one!



Gotta do it with the cover off to get as much stray RF as possible. There
are tuning holes in the top cover that correspond to the inductors. Never
hurts to pop the top and look for burnt components in the network. Also a
good idea and pull the power board and hard wire all the screw studs
together that reference ground. This keeps a loose screw from the bottom
plate from causing major problems! (the bottom plate is the ground bus
(grrrrr))

Mackie is a headache with screws, Kurtzweil is the worst, yadada yadada.
I
could talk shop and stupid musicians for days. Maybe I should attend
the
picnic.


Mackie sucks. But Behringer kicks ass inside and out! The only thing
I've -ever- had to do to a Behringer was replace the occasional busted
or missing knob.



I've been inside the occasional Behringer to repair cold solder etc in the
old daze, they had notorious QC problems, but in the past few years they
have come leaps and bounds. I still have to turn them away due to
difficulty obtaining parts. I recently bought a couple of their DI boxes
and you can't beat them for twice the price. I'm seriously looking into
their DSP2496 system controllers right now.


I have a friend that runs some Behringer stuff in his band. He uses a
lot of sequences, too. I'll give him a call and ask exactly what he
runs and what he recommends.



The DSP2496 is slick, it takes a digital input which is going to be nice
when I get a digital FOH console. The price is right and they work great.
I have used their subharmonic synth, it's great also, right where DBX left
off! The digital EQ is cool, but console wise my needs are above what they
produce at this time.

I think it's wonderful to see such a company do a complete 180 in just a few
years. Behringer products are popping up more and more on the road and are
becoming accepted by visiting engineers. Can't go wrong. I use their
products for tools moreso than as a whole but they have what I need.

Chad

Hello Chad (and all). My name is Jim Savery, and I am with BEHRINGER in the
USA. Our offices are near Seattle, WA, which is the best point of contact
for your particular service and support needs.

Chad, we have two authorized repair centers near you in Illinois. The first
is MidWest Audio, located up in Arlington Heights. You can visit their web
site at:

http://www.midwestaudio.net

The other local service center is in downtown Chicago, and it is called
Deltronics. Their web site can be found at:

http://www.deltronicschicago.com

Finally, we have a spare parts retailer online in New York City. They are
one of our oldest repair centers and they can ship parts nation-wide. See
them online at:

http://www.dbmproaudio.com

If you need technical support or parts identification help, you can call my
office at 425-672-0816, or use our online support system at:

http://www.behringer.com/05_support/index.cfm?lang=ENG . See the bottom left
corner of the page for the online support link.

I hope these various resources address all of your existing concerns about
service and support availability for BEHRINGER products in the USA, Canada
and Latin America. I will also post this information to rec.radio.cb just
to make sure it reaches you and all other interested parties. We understand
and respect the non-commercial nature of USENET, so please accept this post
as a one-time response to the specific concerns you voiced earlier.

Best Regards,

Jim Savery
Global Customer Support Manager
BEHRINGER The Americas
Tel: 1-425-672-0816 x 111
Fax: 1-425-673-7647
IP Phone Ext: 5024

http://www.behringer.com


"Andy Cullen" wrote in message
om...
Dear Chad,

We're sorry to hear that you're having difficulty locating spare parts
for Behringer equipment.
This is our first post into this group - and apart from the spares, we
are delighted to hear what you all have to say about our products !
Usually it's not a problem to get hold of our spares, but perhaps you
need to find a better point of contact ? We're assuming that you're
based in mainland USA, so we've taken the liberty to forward your
details to the service manger at Behringer USA. He'll be in touch with
you shortly, and we're sure that he can guide you to the most
appropriate source.

Best regards,

Andy Cullen

Customer Support Administrator
BEHRINGER Spezielle Studiotechnik GmbH





"Chad Wahls" wrote in message
...
Mackie sucks. But Behringer kicks ass inside and out! The only thing
I've -ever- had to do to a Behringer was replace the occasional busted
or missing knob.



I've been inside the occasional Behringer to repair cold solder etc in
the
old daze, they had notorious QC problems, but in the past few years they
have come leaps and bounds. I still have to turn them away due to
difficulty obtaining parts. I recently bought a couple of their DI boxes
and you can't beat them for twice the price. I'm seriously looking into

their DSP2496 system controllers right now.

Chad