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Old October 14th 04, 12:00 AM
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"DR. Death" wrote:
Here is a pic of my redneck truck
http://www.geocities.com/linearschem...ruck/truck.jpg And the Neon
http://www.geocities.com/linearschematics/truck/car.jpg The neon will be
for my youngest kid, will be driving age next summer
That truck looks like fun!
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Check out my mopar mechanic.
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Hey Twist you all dryed out now and the sand bags put away?


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While this is indeed quite the set-up, this dude would barely bust a
grape in the stereo competitions held in Miami. Imagine entire vans on
hydraulics comprised of nothing but amps and speakers..they're out
there.

I'll take your word for it on that.
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That's pretty sweet. I have a kicker zr1000 in my neon.

Then check this out.

http://www.kicker.com/ShowPage.cfm?filename=venpt2.htm


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I wonder how many alternators they had to install. If I turn the gain up
on
mine I lose tons of horse power.



Horse power and wattts can be converted in a linear equation, all you need
to know at this point is the efficiency of your amp and alternator. My

old
rig pulled 11HP, haven't calculated the new one but the sub amp is digital
and WAY more efficient. it will beat your head on the dash and I still

have
yet to see it pull more than 25A.


Those "digitial amps" are really called class "D" and they can range from 90
percent or better in efficiency.

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LOL!!

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Duct tape?

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That's pretty sweet. I have a kicker zr1000 in my neon.

Then check this out.

http://www.kicker.com/ShowPage.cfm?filename=venpt2.htm


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I wonder how many alternators they had to install. If I turn the
gain
up
on
mine I lose tons of horse power.



Horse power and wattts can be converted in a linear equation, all

you
need
to know at this point is the efficiency of your amp and alternator.
My
old
rig pulled 11HP, haven't calculated the new one but the sub amp is
digital
and WAY more efficient. it will beat your head on the dash and I
still
have
yet to see it pull more than 25A.

The mid/hi's (biamped) (for the audiophiles) are class A/B biased

into
A
for
a long time it runs pretty warm for such a light load so I loose it
there
.


Chad


I've never put an ammeter on it, but it's fused at 150 amps. Neon's
aren't
known for having any horse power anyway. It's a very slow car.



My amp is fused at 90 but tried it at 25 for ****s and grins, no

problem
balls out. But like I said, it's not loaded down to a super low
impedance.

Chad


I'm running mine 2 ohms bridged.



Each amp channel is seeing 1 ohm, I would never do this to an amp I paid
money for.

Speakers have an impedance response much like antenna's, It's actually
dipping below 2 ohms at certain freqs. You don't know which unless you

have
done an impedance plot on the box. I take it you are using 2 (X) 4 ohm
subs? Try it in 4 ohm stereo and see if you gain fidelity. You should

get
a lot more headroom and more "punch" (god I hate that word). You need

that
reserve capacity for metal because the attack of a 20" Tama pro star is

much
greater than that of your average Roland 808 beat box.

I see it all the time in Pro audio, people see the big power number and
go
for it, under the mentality of "if the number is bigger it has to sound
better".

If it's in your truck you probably won't notice a max output difference

due
to the fact that the transfer function starts so high and your skin is
not
as sensitive to tactile "hearing" as your ears are. It will just be

quicker
and sound better. Metallica "one" is asways good to see if an amp is
running out of poop in the dynamic end. Each one of those double kick

stabs
should sound the same. If the first has great attack and the rest just
rumble you are killing the power supply and should unload it a tad.

Keep in mind these are crude methods but often work and are easy to

explain
in a CB newsgroup.

Good luck, Chad



The amp is rated at 1 ohm stereo 2 ohms mono, but you are correct, I went
for putting out max power and I have to keep the gain turned down the way
it
is set up. I'll swap it and try the metallica method and see what it
sounds
like. I would rather it sound good at lower wattage anyway, particularly
since I went to the expense of buying high end infinity kappa perfect
subs.
I'll let you know how it turns out.



How do you like the subs? I was going to buy the original green Kappa's
because they got rave reviews, when the perfect came out they were quite
inexpensive. But typical to my nature it never happened and I settled on JL
Audio 10W0's.

I'm car shopping now and was thinking of those subs, I'm still torn due to
the fact that I still have an old JBL1500GTI that needs reconed (they were
based on the 2226 pro driver), I loved that sub in the caddy because it was
so true to life and ever so fast (Pantera reproduction)

I always go for fidelity first, if you have the power and know how to make
it sound fantastic then volume will follow. I tell the car audio nerds
around here each of my 5, yep only 5, speakers have their own channel of
amplification and crossover, they get lost. No it ain't as loud as theirs,
but it will hurt, AND it will play Vivaldi convincingly and a bosendorfer
grand sounds as if the player is using your lap as a piano bench.

Chad




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That's pretty sweet. I have a kicker zr1000 in my neon.

Then check this out.

http://www.kicker.com/ShowPage.cfm?filename=venpt2.htm


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Leland C. Scott
KC8LDO

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I wonder how many alternators they had to install. If I turn the gain
up
on
mine I lose tons of horse power.



Horse power and wattts can be converted in a linear equation, all you
need
to know at this point is the efficiency of your amp and alternator. My

old
rig pulled 11HP, haven't calculated the new one but the sub amp is
digital
and WAY more efficient. it will beat your head on the dash and I still

have
yet to see it pull more than 25A.


Those "digitial amps" are really called class "D" and they can range from
90
percent or better in efficiency.

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Leland C. Scott
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To make it even more confusing they can also be called class T because a
certain company, tripower I think, makes a proprietary one chip wonder
driver circuit. same operation different name. I prefer to call them
switchers

Chad


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AND it will play Vivaldi convincingly
and a bosendorfer grand sounds as if the player is using your lap as a
piano bench.

Chad

Hehe..funny analogy.
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AND it will play Vivaldi convincingly
and a bosendorfer grand sounds as if the player is using your lap as a
piano bench.

Chad

Hehe..funny analogy.


I work for the University Of Illinois School Of Music, We teach primarily
Classical and Jazz performance and all types of composition. You should see
some of our piano performance people (ladies). The analogy will then
become, er, more than just funny

Chad


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Old October 14th 04, 03:49 PM
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"Chad Wahls" wrote:
AND it will play Vivaldi convincingly
and a bosendorfer grand sounds as if the player is using your lap as a
piano bench.

Chad

Hehe..funny analogy.


I work for the University Of Illinois School Of Music, We teach primarily
Classical and Jazz performance and all types of composition. You should
see some of our piano performance people (ladies). The analogy will then
become, er, more than just funny

Chad

HA! Leg check on those 88's!
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