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On Mon, 10 Jan 2005 17:29:28 GMT, Lancer wrote:
On Mon, 10 Jan 2005 09:40:30 -0500, (Twistedhed) wrote: From: (Dave*Hall) On Fri, 7 Jan 2005 15:37:50 -0500, (Twistedhed) wrote: N3CVJ said The "DX" has nothing to do with the amount of splatter and the distortion a signal may have. It has everything to with it. For the amount of times you professed to having talked skip on the freeband, followed by recent denials of you talking skip, you should know that on MANY occasion, a signal can be severely wavering from an S1 to an S9 (for but one of many examples),,,when that signal is coming in at an S9, the splatter may be intense if you changed the channel and went one up or down. When that signal is coming in on a wavering S1, you will hear absolutely nothing on your next channel. Once again, the wavering is a direct result of...taa daaa....skip. You may not hear anything on the next channel because the signal may not be strong enough or because of "selective fading" . Splatter is caused by the modulation, it may or may not be intensified by skip. But it is not caused by "skip" If you had a constant carrier(no modulation), skip or not, you wouldn't have splatter. He probably thinks that FM won't skip either...... Dave "Sandbagger" |
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On 10 Jan 2005 12:45:36 GMT, Steveo
wrote: Dave Hall wrote: On 07 Jan 2005 21:22:30 GMT, Steveo wrote: (Twistedhed) wrote: From: (Dave=A0Hall) wrote: So, you're telling me that you can't listen to a channel and pick out who the most blatant illegal operators are simply by the sound of their rigs, and by the splatter they produce? When the dx is running strong, Donut matter. No one can tell me my S-Line is over-driven..even on local ground wave. That said, there -are- way yonder too many splatter-masters on 11 meters. That depends on what you mean by "over-driven" Simply bumping up the carrier power, will decrease your modulation, and will eventually result in severe back swing. If it's excessive, the modulation will also sound "fuzzy". At that point, it will be easy to see that it's not a legal CB transmitter. But it may not be splattering all that much. If you bump up modulation to over 100%, then that will cause splatter, which is also easily observed. Dave "Sandbagger" That's not going to happen with my rig. Tune it and forget about it. It's hard to hurt a quality radio. Dave "Sandbagger" |
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On Mon, 10 Jan 2005 09:43:01 -0500, (Twistedhed)
wrote: From: (Dave*Hall) On 07 Jan 2005 21:22:30 GMT, Steveo wrote: (Twistedhed) wrote: From: (Dave=A0Hall) wrote: So, you're telling me that you can't listen to a channel and pick out who the most blatant illegal operators are simply by the sound of their rigs, and by the splatter they produce? When the dx is running strong, _ Donut matter. No one can tell me my S-Line is over-driven..even on local ground wave. That said, there -are- way yonder too many splatter-masters on 11 meters. That depends on what you mean by "over-driven" Good Gawdomighty,,,,,,here comes N3CVJ to tell *you* what you meant by "over-driven". Davie applies his own definitions to words that everyone else has no problem comprehending. When your thought processes (and I use the term loosely) are comprised of a series of binary thought patterns, where everything is either black or white, I can see why you might think that. But if you actually KNEW something, (other than "CB Science") you'd know that the term "overdriven" has many applications, as illustrated by my earlier response. Dave "Sandbagger" |
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On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 07:56:21 -0500, Dave Hall
wrote: On Mon, 10 Jan 2005 17:29:28 GMT, Lancer wrote: On Mon, 10 Jan 2005 09:40:30 -0500, (Twistedhed) wrote: From: (DaveĀ*Hall) On Fri, 7 Jan 2005 15:37:50 -0500, (Twistedhed) wrote: N3CVJ said The "DX" has nothing to do with the amount of splatter and the distortion a signal may have. It has everything to with it. For the amount of times you professed to having talked skip on the freeband, followed by recent denials of you talking skip, you should know that on MANY occasion, a signal can be severely wavering from an S1 to an S9 (for but one of many examples),,,when that signal is coming in at an S9, the splatter may be intense if you changed the channel and went one up or down. When that signal is coming in on a wavering S1, you will hear absolutely nothing on your next channel. Once again, the wavering is a direct result of...taa daaa....skip. You may not hear anything on the next channel because the signal may not be strong enough or because of "selective fading" . Splatter is caused by the modulation, it may or may not be intensified by skip. But it is not caused by "skip" If you had a constant carrier(no modulation), skip or not, you wouldn't have splatter. He probably thinks that FM won't skip either...... Dave "Sandbagger" Who? |
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On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 03:48:46 GMT, "Landshark"
wrote: "Lancer" wrote in message ... On Sat, 08 Jan 2005 05:19:54 GMT, "Landshark" wrote: "Dave Hall" wrote in message ... On Fri, 7 Jan 2005 10:57:27 -0500, (Twistedhed) wrote: From: (Dave Hall) wrote: The "DX" has nothing to do with the amount of splatter and the distortion a signal may have. The only effect that "DX" may have is heterodyning of co-channel signals. In any case, when my observations were made, the "DX" was not running heavy enough that a clean sample of any particular transmission could not be made. Ummm, no Dave. DX has everything to do with DX splatter. The only thing DX has to do with DX splatter is that if "DX" isn't running you wouldn't hear it. Probably, but if you have a 100 radio's and a third of them are running their modulation clipped, then you will hear it even worse, correct? It would only be worse because now you can hear the 100 radios. Splatter or out of bounds emissions are those falling outside the normal bandwidth of a signal and are the result of modulation. Correct DX doesn't cause splatter it allows it to propgate farther. Correct. When you have a lot more radio's trying to talk on one freq, don't you think that it will now increase your adjacent channel splatter? Only because you now can hear more radios. skip doesn't cause splatter. Take the same 100 radios that were causing splatter when the skip was running (all stations running S9). Now move them all so they are local to you (again all stations running S9). From what you have said you believe the splatter is going to decrease ? |
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N3CVJ wrote:
I tend to believe that if you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to fear. I'm a conservative. If you actually believed that bull****, you would be a nudist. If someone has nothing to hide, then why would they fear anything? And of course if they do have something to hide, we would want the government to know. After all, this is how the Jews lived in Nazi Germany, the Ukrainians lived in the Soviet Empire, and how the Chinese peasants lived under Emperor Mao. Of course, Davie's nazi doctrine he adheres to is a well known slogan of oppressive totalitarian regimes throughout history and is fascist, something he confuses with extreme radical conservatism. "One who would give up essential liberty obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither" B. Franklin "Dissent is the highest form of patriotism" T. Jefferson |
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Lancer at rock.com wrote:
The only thing DX has to do with DX splatter is that if "DX" isn't running you wouldn't hear it. Which is what Davie took issue with. |
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Lancer wrote:
But it is not caused by "skip" If you had a constant carrier(no modulation), skip or not, you wouldn't have splatter. Same is said for the harmonics Davie is speaking of. |
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