"Jim Hampton" wrote in message
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"Landshark" wrote in message
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Wheee ... driving by 1976? Good lord, I have my girl friends initials on
my
books along with my ham call sign ... and that was in 1962!

Hey, you knew my Mom :P LOL!! Did you ever have the chance to talk
with Bill Orr? He was a friend of my parents when I was growing up from
61 to 67. He was a pilot and used to fly up to a place called "Sea Ranch"
in northern Ca., they had a second home up there and used to go away
for the weekend with my parents and other friends.

I was driving
in 1964. I had my 1st phone and commercial telegraph in 1966 (along with
my
extra).

Does this mean I'm more decrepit than you and Mopar, Shark?
)



Naw, just older than the dirt I'm standing on right now


73 from Rochester, NY
Jim


It's ok Jim, my dad's 80, so I'm used to dealing with old-timers
disease(grin)

"Steveo" wrote in message
...
"Jim Hampton" wrote:
Does this mean I'm more decrepit than you and Mopar, Shark?
)

73 from Rochester, NY
Jim

More experienced!

DAMN STRAIGHT!!!!

Landshark

"Landshark" wrote in message
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"Jim Hampton" wrote in message
...

"Landshark" wrote in message
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Wheee ... driving by 1976? Good lord, I have my girl friends initials
on
my
books along with my ham call sign ... and that was in 1962!

Hey, you knew my Mom :P LOL!! Did you ever have the chance to talk
with Bill Orr? He was a friend of my parents when I was growing up from
61 to 67. He was a pilot and used to fly up to a place called "Sea Ranch"
in northern Ca., they had a second home up there and used to go away
for the weekend with my parents and other friends.

I was driving
in 1964. I had my 1st phone and commercial telegraph in 1966 (along
with
my
extra).

Does this mean I'm more decrepit than you and Mopar, Shark?
)



Naw, just older than the dirt I'm standing on right now


73 from Rochester, NY
Jim


It's ok Jim, my dad's 80, so I'm used to dealing with old-timers
disease(grin)

LOL - you guys! Don't worry, I'm gonna live another 40 years as I haven't
p*ssed on enough graves yet! )

Gawd, I wish folks could get along in this group. I gotta admit that you,
Mopar, and Twist have a good sense of humor (not to mention thick skins,
which is a necessity around here LOL).

73 from Rochester, NY
Jim AA2QA

"Jim Hampton" wrote:
"Landshark" wrote in message
. ..

"Jim Hampton" wrote in message
...

"Landshark" wrote in message
.. .

Wheee ... driving by 1976? Good lord, I have my girl friends
initials
on
my
books along with my ham call sign ... and that was in 1962!

Hey, you knew my Mom :P LOL!! Did you ever have the chance to talk
with Bill Orr? He was a friend of my parents when I was growing up from
61 to 67. He was a pilot and used to fly up to a place called "Sea
Ranch" in northern Ca., they had a second home up there and used to go
away for the weekend with my parents and other friends.

I was driving
in 1964. I had my 1st phone and commercial telegraph in 1966 (along
with
my
extra).

Does this mean I'm more decrepit than you and Mopar, Shark?
)



Naw, just older than the dirt I'm standing on right now


73 from Rochester, NY
Jim


It's ok Jim, my dad's 80, so I'm used to dealing with
old-timers disease(grin)

LOL - you guys! Don't worry, I'm gonna live another 40 years as I
haven't p*ssed on enough graves yet! )

Gawd, I wish folks could get along in this group. I gotta admit that
you, Mopar, and Twist have a good sense of humor (not to mention thick
skins, which is a necessity around here LOL).

73 from Rochester, NY
Jim AA2QA

We get along great in this group compared to some of the ****e I see in
many other groups, Jim. You can't expect the demented dogie to act like he
has any sense, or spine. The keyboard and Nad are his only friends.

Remember back then there was not the cussing and name calling as what
goes on now. In ham there is not near the abusive crud going on as on
the CB freq's. Don't know why but it is there.

I wish that we didn't have to use a 10,000 watt kicker, even with a
durned good antenna, to talk to the end of the block. And I put it in
about the good antenna cause if you have a radio that won't get out
without a kicker, it, once put in front of a kicker, all kinds of
pitiful noises come out of it. It makes it hard to understand them and
they keep others that have decent talking sets from enjoying what could
be a really decent hobby for the price.

"Jim Hampton" wrote in message
...

"Landshark" wrote in message
. ..

"Jim Hampton" wrote in message
...

"Landshark" wrote in message
.. .

Wheee ... driving by 1976? Good lord, I have my girl friends initials
on
my
books along with my ham call sign ... and that was in 1962!

Hey, you knew my Mom :P LOL!! Did you ever have the chance to talk
with Bill Orr? He was a friend of my parents when I was growing up from
61 to 67. He was a pilot and used to fly up to a place called "Sea
Ranch"
in northern Ca., they had a second home up there and used to go away
for the weekend with my parents and other friends.

I was driving
in 1964. I had my 1st phone and commercial telegraph in 1966 (along
with
my
extra).

Does this mean I'm more decrepit than you and Mopar, Shark?
)



Naw, just older than the dirt I'm standing on right now


73 from Rochester, NY
Jim


It's ok Jim, my dad's 80, so I'm used to dealing with old-timers
disease(grin)

LOL - you guys! Don't worry, I'm gonna live another 40 years as I haven't
p*ssed on enough graves yet! )

Well aren't you just special :P


Gawd, I wish folks could get along in this group. I gotta admit that you,
Mopar, and Twist have a good sense of humor (not to mention thick skins,
which is a necessity around here LOL).

73 from Rochester, NY
Jim AA2QA

Hey, other than two or three people here, most everyone gets
along pretty good.

Landshark


--
The internet is fun but it's no substitute for books, people, nature,
or direct experiences. But you think that you can get everything you
need from your computer, you are a fool.

Frank Gililland

Jim Hampton wrote:

Hello, guy

The fact is that folks should posses some minimal knowledge lest they
conflict with other folks.

I'm still trying to figure out the difference between learning morse code
and not using it and not learning morse code and not using it. How can
someone who doesn't learn it and doesn't use it conflict with others in an
area dedicated to morse code?


There was no regulation of radio back in the early 1900s. No need. Once
radio started taking off, there had to be some coordination or stations
would be jamming each other.

Yes, back when there was no store bought gear. Yes, back when you had the
challenge and the pleasure of building it and the sense of accomplishment
of operating it yourself.


Same with automobiles. At first, no licensing and no laws. Then, when
some horses became scared of a horseless carriage, they put into effect 5
mph
speed limits in some areas. Sometimes, someone had to walk ahead with a
flag to warn folks that a horseless carriage was coming! Eventually, laws
were formed to maximize usage to *everyone*. Otherwise, what if there
were no stop lights, stop signs, and no rules about which side of the road
to drive on?

Yes, for the safety of others.


Orville and Wilbur Wright didn't have to apply to anyone for a license to
fly. There were no laws at the beginning of aircraft. Only once a number
of planes were flying did they start to regulate it. For obvious reasons
LOL.

Yes, for the safety of others.


As to taking your test, why would you have a problem today? I had last
been on the air in 1969 and let my license drop around 1981 (not sure of
the
exact year). When I retook it in 1993, I passed the extra first time
around.

If you have copied code past 13 words per minute, you won't forget it.
You
might get a bit rusty, but can pick it back up. In my case, I didn't
brush
up. Nor on theory either. The basics remain the same; I've been into
computers since 1976, so any questions on gates, cpus, memory, etc. is a
no-brainer.

Sure, multiple guess questions on computers to operate today's ham gear
makes sense. But to test for CW? I'm still searching for a valid reason
to keep doing so. All I've seen so far is, "why not?" or "to show you're
qualified." Is it solely to limit the number of people who can operate
voice on HF--but people are afraid to say this out loud?

Yes, I was copying code at 35 WPM (about as fast as I could pencil it on
paper) at one time. Right now, I can copy 13 solid. Yes, I could easily
increase it again with just a little bit of practice.


Of course I missed some questions on where bands were. They've added a
couple. You don't need 100%; in fact, I didn't feel like extracting
square roots by hand (I can, but it is a pain - I'm not talking guessing
here), so
I simply checked off some answers. I knew I had already passed that
portion so who cared.

Yes, you are aware of some practical strategies in passing a multiple guess
test. This is part of the coaching that occurs for most potential hams
these days.


As to no difference; perhaps not to put it on the air, but to understand
what emission you are using and where you can and can not use it may just
make a tad bit of difference.

Why only a practical test for CW? Why not a practical test for any of the
digital modes or using a satellite or how to DF a fox or how to set up a
radio?


I have to laugh about folks joking about IRLP and Echolink. I've used my
440 HT to chat with Australia with *no Internet* involved. All rf path,
courtesy of a 10 meter link. Of course, that wasn't really a challenge; I
simply heard the Aussies there.

What is fun is having the ability to change mode in a heartbeat. One guy

or a practical test on switching modes on one of today's radios?

on
a 440 repeater was squaking that everyone should *have* to use Morse.
Since the repeater owner was in the group, I asked his permission and got
it.

40 words per minute MFM sent over the repeater. Shut him up in a hurry.

Is there a difference? I know one guy who *knows* so LOL.

73 from Rochester, NY
Jim

I'm still waiting for someone to give me a convincing reason why we continue
to test element 1a.

Guy

I'm still waiting for someone to give me a convincing reason why we continue
to test element 1a.

o the old fuddy duddies say so
o the FCC makes no money from dropping the requirement
o "I had to, so you have to!"
o no good reason whatsoever
o the FCC is busy selling spectrum, so if HF is actually used, they can't sell it
o too busy with killing the HF spectrum with BPL
o too lazy to act because Powell sapped all their inhibition
o no good reason whatsoever (oh, I said that)

On Mon, 13 Jun 2005 17:50:26 -0400, Vinnie S.
wrote:

On Mon, 13 Jun 2005 13:18:30 -0400, Dave Hall wrote:

Have it properly aligned by a tech with calibrated equipment.

That's good for you, but not for the other guys who align with a
"galaxy" frequency counter.


Dave,

Do you recoomended a decent Freq counter I can get on ebay for aound $40? They
have a ton of older HP and BK Precisions. I had a Fluke 1900A, but it died on
me, and I am looking to replace it.

Well, as a matter of course, you get what you pay for. To me $40 is in
the "recreational user" category. For true lab precision quality test
equipment, you're going to pay a lot more (Unless, of course, it's 30+
years old, and then I'd have my doubts about calibration).

I have a Fluke counter, which I obtained about 8 years ago. At the
time I got it, the calibration was about a year old. While the
optional heated crystal oven high precision timebase is fairly stable,
I'm sure there's been some drift in the last 8 or 9 years.

So even if you get a "Lab quality" counter, unless the seller can
provide calibration traceability, you still don't know how accurate it
might be.

Dave
"Sandbagger"



Vinnie S.

On Mon, 13 Jun 2005 20:40:33 GMT, "Jim Hampton"
wrote:


"Dave Hall" wrote in message
.. .
On Fri, 10 Jun 2005 20:36:48 -0400, Vinnie S.
wrote:


You're freaking me out with your CB flashbacks now, Enzo!

At any rate, congrats on the new rig.


I am 38 now. The problem is, it took forever to get to 21 years old. It
only too
2 weeks to get from 21 to 38 years old.

That's the way it seems. The first 15 years goes by like molasses on a
cold day. Then before you know it, you're out of school. Then 21 looms
large just around the corner. Then, in what feels like 2 or 3 years,
you hit 30. Then the next 15 years goes by just as fast as the last 7
or 8.

I've been told by quite a few sage old timers that the older you get,
the faster time seems to go by. I guess it's all relative.

Dave
"Sandbagger"



Dave,

Did you hear the sonic boom last month? I just hit 58 (or did it hit
me?)!!!

Hence the term "hitting the wall".



Every time I pass a cemetary, I feel like I'm apartment hunting .... )

LOL! That's funny! The problem with this is I haven't seen one with a
good view.... ;-)


Dave
"Sandbagger"