I've never found any problem on 75 meters.

BTW, 75 meters implies something other than

80 meters. Ever. I doubt any licensed amateur
would care to use any echo as it simply

degrades your intelligibility.

Except on broadcast audio AM..oh yea,,and FM. I'm no fan of echo when it
is used for a total repeat, but ask -any- broadcast engineer that worked
in commercial radio about a tinge of echo. There is a reason many of
those obnoxious car ads and others use echo in their commercials. It not
only grabs your attention, it demands it and is usually louder than the
regular programming, as is the majority of commercials. But echo is used
in ads because its characteristics work much better than non-echo on AM
and FM. When the effectiveness of echo is no longer effective in
advertsing on commercial radio, we will all cease to hear it. Big bucks
advertisers don't repeatedly spend money on ads that don't work.

I've run across a

few lids, but *very* few. None on 75 or 160.

73 from Rochester, NY

Jim AA2QA

Some of those lids save their "lidness" for their cb antics and some are
so scared to talk on CB anymore that all they do is deadkey. I hear (CW)
keyers on CB quite often. Well, not just CB, but the freeband more than
CB. Those keyers sure as hell aren't owned by the CB crowd.
You are right, though. Less on 160 than 2. None on 75? We have this
little town called LARGhettO in mid county. When you gonna visit your
folks? I wanna show you around my RF stomping grounds

From: (John=A0Smith)
Jim:
Good advice, the new CB'ers should become acquainted with freq charts
and use of the proper modes (protocols) on the various ranges of freqs
(bands): http://www.handiham.org/freqchar.htm
John
_
Saying CB'ers should become familiar with hammie bands is about as
sensible as saying all hammies should become familiar with the
Freebands. If a CB'er is interested in hammie radio, he will seek out
hammie band information, but if a CB'er (no matter how "new" he/she is)
is not interested in playing hammie radio, there is no reason for them
to learn anything of the sort.

"I AmnotGeorgeBush" wrote in message
...
I've never found any problem on 75 meters.

BTW, 75 meters implies something other than

80 meters. Ever. I doubt any licensed amateur
would care to use any echo as it simply

degrades your intelligibility.

Except on broadcast audio AM..oh yea,,and FM. I'm no fan of echo when it
is used for a total repeat, but ask -any- broadcast engineer that worked
in commercial radio about a tinge of echo. There is a reason many of
those obnoxious car ads and others use echo in their commercials. It not
only grabs your attention, it demands it and is usually louder than the
regular programming, as is the majority of commercials. But echo is used
in ads because its characteristics work much better than non-echo on AM
and FM. When the effectiveness of echo is no longer effective in
advertsing on commercial radio, we will all cease to hear it. Big bucks
advertisers don't repeatedly spend money on ads that don't work.

I've run across a

few lids, but *very* few. None on 75 or 160.

73 from Rochester, NY

Jim AA2QA

Some of those lids save their "lidness" for their cb antics and some are
so scared to talk on CB anymore that all they do is deadkey. I hear (CW)
keyers on CB quite often. Well, not just CB, but the freeband more than
CB. Those keyers sure as hell aren't owned by the CB crowd.
You are right, though. Less on 160 than 2. None on 75? We have this
little town called LARGhettO in mid county. When you gonna visit your
folks? I wanna show you around my RF stomping grounds


Hello, Twist

75 meters (to me as well as the old-timers) implies the CW band. The phone
band does have its' problem children. It did even back in the 60s. Been
there, took care of those problems LOL.

What have you been up to? Strange signals from Saturn? See my post I just
sent to the group. How many KWs are ya runnin? With that coliniar array
plus the salt water, you must be doing good to affect Saturn )

All kidding aside, I wish folks could set aside their prejudices and
understand that we are all radio enthusiasts (read: *nuts* LOL). Of course,
the intentional jammers none of us need.


73 from Rochester, NY
Jim

"I AmnotGeorgeBush" wrote in message
...
From: (Lets Get Metaphysical)
On Mon, 25 Jul 2005 15:47:58 -0400, (123a 456a)
wrote:
I have been listening in to 40 and 80 meters i see no diiference then 11
meter nets. These guys swearing more then 11 meters hell one guy didnt
catch his call was using an echo master with roger beep tones on his
Icom..What a bunch of clowns..These nets wouldnt let some others in who
were calling saying they were weak and didnt belong with the big boys..
It's amazin thousand of dollars for equipment and they sound and act
worse then many cbers..

I've definitly heard some jerks on 75 meters,
but 40 meters is a fairly well behaved bunch of
guys. Most of the jerks I've heard on 75

meters were former CB'ers though. Sad but

true.




Odds are most of the hammies on hammie radio today are former cb'ers.
Nothing sad about it. If it wasn't for cb, hammie radio would be dead.
CB is where the hammie radio participants originate.



Hello, Twist

For what it is worth, I started in ham radio (1962), had a ball with cb
radio (1970/71) and am still active in ham radio ....

What is silly is to throw darts at each other. There are good and bad in
both groups. To think otherwise is a rather bit shortsighted.


73 from Rochester, NY
Jim AA2QA

"John Smith" wrote in message
...
Jim:

I hate when you try to do that...

Insert logic and reason right in the middle of damn good insane (ranting)
argument!!!

John



John,

I haven't had enough beer yet. Gimme a chance, doggone it LOL ))


73 from Rochester, NY
Jim

"Jim Hampton" wrote in message
...

"John Smith" wrote in message
...
Jim:

I hate when you try to do that...

Insert logic and reason right in the middle of damn good insane (ranting)
argument!!!

John



John,

I haven't had enough beer yet. Gimme a chance, doggone it LOL ))


73 from Rochester, NY
Jim


6:10pm on the west coast and you say haven't had enough
beer yet? You a better drinker than I thought Jim

Landshark


--
Some of them are living an illusion
Bounded by the darkness of their minds,
In their eyes it's nation against nation,
With racial pride, sad hearts they hide,
Thinking only of themselves,
They shun the light,
They think they're right
Living in the empty shells.

"Landshark" wrote:
"Jim Hampton" wrote in message
...

"John Smith" wrote in message
...
Jim:

I hate when you try to do that...

Insert logic and reason right in the middle of damn good insane
(ranting)
argument!!!

John



John,

I haven't had enough beer yet. Gimme a chance, doggone it LOL ))


73 from Rochester, NY
Jim

6:10pm on the west coast and you say haven't had enough
beer yet? You a better drinker than I thought Jim

Landshark

That makes it prime time in our time zone, Shark.

--
http://NewsReader.Com/

For what it is worth, I started in ham radio (1962), had a ball with cb
radio (1970/71) and am still active in ham radio ....
What is silly is to throw darts at each other. There are good and bad in
both groups. To think otherwise is a rather bit shortsighted.
73 from Rochester, NY
Jim AA2QA
_
Which brings us to the fact that many good hammies cb on regular basis.

iangb:

Geesh, just when I think you are some religiously-devout-whacko-ham you state
obvious unarguable truth...

I am silent for the shock of it all...

John

"I AmnotGeorgeBush" wrote in message
...

For what it is worth, I started in ham radio (1962), had a ball with cb
radio (1970/71) and am still active in ham radio ....
What is silly is to throw darts at each other. There are good and bad in
both groups. To think otherwise is a rather bit shortsighted.
73 from Rochester, NY
Jim AA2QA
_
Which brings us to the fact that many good hammies cb on regular basis.

Steveo wrote:

"Landshark" wrote:

"Jim Hampton" wrote in message
...

"John Smith" wrote in message
...

Jim:

I hate when you try to do that...

Insert logic and reason right in the middle of damn good insane
(ranting)

argument!!!

John



John,

I haven't had enough beer yet. Gimme a chance, doggone it LOL ))


73 from Rochester, NY
Jim

6:10pm on the west coast and you say haven't had enough
beer yet? You a better drinker than I thought Jim

Landshark


That makes it prime time in our time zone, Shark.

its always prime time steve