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October 29th 05, 10:55 AM
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Frankie of Silliland: A Coward Who Lied To And Stole From His Country Lectures About "Integrity"
Frank Gilliland wrote: Got lots of work today so I'll only make a few comments: On Wed, 26 Oct 2005 23:17:50 -0400, wrote in : Markie...He WAS tried and found guilty! Twice! Indicted, tried and CONVICTED! your source? Me, but Dudly didn't have all the facts. I pled guilty at the first court-martial and so was never tried. Yes, Frankie...TRIED. You had the benefit of representation, stood before the court, and had your opportunity to say your piece. snip Mind you that the Marines would much rather send a "junior trooper" to Office Hours, whichn in the Marine Corps are Article 15 proceedings. In other words, letting the commander of the unit handle the incident at the lowest echelon. Something I would only advise a soldier to try if they are guilty of something but likely he reufsed Art 15 as I did many times And that's exactly what I did for the second infraction. Ahhhhh...Let's MINIMALIZE it and call it an "infraction". You are not charged with "infractions" at a court martial. It's an "offense". I forced a summary court-martial so the facts regarding the case would be a matter of record. It would have been a matter of record in an Artcle 15 proceeding, too. Dumb, Frankie...really, REALLY dumb. snip He WAS found guilty. not according to him not after apeal was it but that does not count with you For once Dudly is right. No "for once", Frankie. I've had you nailed for weeks now. Sorry it's made things a bit uncomfortable for you. There were no appeals and both convictions stand. The vindication of my second infraction....(SNIP) "Vindication" only in that you allow yourself that "warm fuzzy" for it. It has no legal bearing. And it was your second OFFENSE..."infractions" are dealt with at Article 15. You, by your own admission, blew that off. (UNSNIP)...was the result of a seperate entry made as the result of a review that I requested after my discharge. The violation leading to the conviction was found to have "mitigating circumstances that should have been considered [by the presiding officer] but were not," and that I "was denied evidence, and the opportunity to gather and present certain evidence" relevant to my defense. The conviction was not overturned (since it was not an appeal) but my conduct marks were adjusted accordingly, and my discharge upgraded to Honorable. See..that's where we part ways, Frankie...My service never had to be UPGRADED to Honorable...It was that way all along. snip USMC attitudes on this are that if you let those four guys carry that fifth guy off the battlefield, there will be five guys to worry about later. Better to kill them all now than to have to face them a second time. |
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