"Chad Wahls" wrote:
Yep it does, one looks close to the one i made a couple days ago.. Mine
is prettier

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y23...f/HPIM1678.jpg

Chad

Sweet!

On 18 Nov 2005 13:32:52 -0800, wrote:

+What's wrong with sticking a 1/4 wave or 5/8 wave loaded verticle into
+the ground. Bury a couple of radials in the ground. I have a 5BTV
+verticle bolted to a pipe I stuck in the ground about 3 feet. Been in
+the ground for a couple years and works very good on 10m.
+
+Hang a flag at the top and there ya go - it's a flag pole.
+
+Just say 'NEO'
+
+regards,
+Bob
+N9NEO
******

Depending on the deed restrictions, even a flag pole may require an
architectural committee to review the plans before erecting even a
flag pole.

Right now the best antenna to put up for VHF use is a log periodic
that can look like a TV antenna. Some deed restricted associations
have so poor a turnouts for yearly meetings they cannot alter rules
that have been nulled by federal regulations. The Communications Act
of 1996 strikes down the blanket "No outside antenna" restrictions.
Associations should have gone back and altered restrictions to
prohibit outside TV antennae and restrict other antenna systems for
amateur and cb radio.

If they have not done that, then technically there is no antenna
restrictions. One should check their deed restrictions and updates and
confirm anything with a lawyer.

james

James,

Checking with a lawyer is probably good advice. Lotsw of verbiage that
only other lawyers can easily understand.

I would think that if a federal regulation were to have the effect of
'nulling' a local ordinence then there is no reason or need for the
local committie to 'alter' their regulations. They're already altered
by federal mandate. No? I think you may have a valid point somewhere
in there, but it escapes me. What are you saying?

I live in a neighborhood that in the past has had deed restrictions.
In order for the restrictions to survive there would have had to have
been a vote taken and a board installed. This would have had to have
taken place within one year of the last parcel of property being sold.
Didn't happen and I have an antenna farm on my property.

And - Since when have we moved CB into vhf spectrum? Wasn't OP
talking of erecting a CB antenna? Where did VHF log periodic come
from? Is this part of the point that I can't quite get a hold of?

73
NEO

Right now the best antenna to put up for VHF use is a log periodic
that can look like a TV antenna. //snip//

In the UK I believe even putting up a TV antenna is against the tenancy
rules as some, especially in flats, have to share a communal aerial. I don't
know if its different in the States.
Regards,
Graham

---------------------
Radio is only a Hobby. Don't let it rule your life...

73's - Graham

On 18 Nov 2005 13:32:52 -0800, wrote:

What's wrong with sticking a 1/4 wave or 5/8 wave loaded verticle into
the ground. Bury a couple of radials in the ground. I have a 5BTV
verticle bolted to a pipe I stuck in the ground about 3 feet. Been in
the ground for a couple years and works very good on 10m.

Hang a flag at the top and there ya go - it's a flag pole.

Just say 'NEO'

regards,
Bob
N9NEO


Bob,

I have the 5BTV too, and love it. But if he is using it for local, forget it. I
have am Imax in a tree about 36 feet high, and the 5BTV ground mounted. The 5BTV
gets out all over with DX, but is terrible locally because it is ground mounted.

Vinnie S.

On Sun, 20 Nov 2005 11:04:54 -0000, "The Magnum"
wrote:


Right now the best antenna to put up for VHF use is a log periodic
that can look like a TV antenna. //snip//

In the UK I believe even putting up a TV antenna is against the tenancy
rules as some, especially in flats, have to share a communal aerial. I don't
know if its different in the States.
Regards,
Graham


Only in restricted developments. Condos for one. But the rules are plain as day
when you are at your closing settlement.

Vinnie S.

On Sun, 20 Nov 2005 11:04:54 -0000, "The Magnum"
wrote:

+
+ Right now the best antenna to put up for VHF use is a log periodic
+ that can look like a TV antenna. //snip//
+
+In the UK I believe even putting up a TV antenna is against the tenancy
+rules as some, especially in flats, have to share a communal aerial. I don't
+know if its different in the States.
+Regards,
+Graham
+
+---------------------
+Radio is only a Hobby. Don't let it rule your life...
+
+73's - Graham
+

*****

Here across the big pond we have a clause in our constitution called
the commerce clause. Congress ruled that a homeowners association
could not pass rules and regulations restricting federal commerce.
Over the air television is regulated by the FCC, a federal agency, and
therefore restricting outside antennae at one's personal residence was
against the US Constitution. This did apply to residential single
family dwellings. Apartment complexes did not fall under this ruling.

Here in the US many deed restricted land usage restricted outside TV
antennae for basically aesthetic purposes only. They felt they were
quite ugly. That was changed in 1996.

james

On 20 Nov 2005 02:24:11 -0800, wrote:

+James,
+
+Checking with a lawyer is probably good advice. Lotsw of verbiage that
+only other lawyers can easily understand.
+
+I would think that if a federal regulation were to have the effect of
+'nulling' a local ordinence then there is no reason or need for the
+local committie to 'alter' their regulations. They're already altered
+by federal mandate. No? I think you may have a valid point somewhere
+in there, but it escapes me. What are you saying?
+
+I live in a neighborhood that in the past has had deed restrictions.
+In order for the restrictions to survive there would have had to have
+been a vote taken and a board installed. This would have had to have
+taken place within one year of the last parcel of property being sold.
+Didn't happen and I have an antenna farm on my property.
+
+And - Since when have we moved CB into vhf spectrum? Wasn't OP
+talking of erecting a CB antenna? Where did VHF log periodic come
+from? Is this part of the point that I can't quite get a hold of?
+
+73
+NEO
*******

The developement that I lived in had a clause stating "No outside
antennas" SInce all the dwellings in teh association were single
family houses, in effect the Communications Act of 1996 voided that
restriction. The assoiciation was until the time that I had left, had
never had a quorum at any annual meeting in order to revise or replace
that clause. So in effect there were no restrictions for any outside
antennae. I consulted with a lawyer on that and he confirmed that with
me.

james

"james" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 20 Nov 2005 11:04:54 -0000, "The Magnum"
wrote:

+
+ Right now the best antenna to put up for VHF use is a log periodic
+ that can look like a TV antenna. //snip//
+
+In the UK I believe even putting up a TV antenna is against the tenancy
+rules as some, especially in flats, have to share a communal aerial. I
don't
+know if its different in the States.
+Regards,
+Graham
+
+---------------------
+Radio is only a Hobby. Don't let it rule your life...
+
+73's - Graham
+

*****

Here across the big pond we have a clause in our constitution called
the commerce clause. Congress ruled that a homeowners association
could not pass rules and regulations restricting federal commerce.
Over the air television is regulated by the FCC, a federal agency, and
therefore restricting outside antennae at one's personal residence was
against the US Constitution. This did apply to residential single
family dwellings. Apartment complexes did not fall under this ruling.

Here in the US many deed restricted land usage restricted outside TV
antennae for basically aesthetic purposes only. They felt they were
quite ugly. That was changed in 1996.

james

Hi James,
The aesthetic argument was why they didn't allow private aerials over here.
I must be honest and say I don't know if this is still the case but it used
to be a few years back.

Regards,
Graham

--
---------------
Radio is only a Hobby. Don't let it rule your life...

73's - Graham

Where in the Communications Act Of 1996 does it protect me?