The question and answer below was posted in another forum. Is the answer
correct? Did the 23 channel radios effectively lose type acceptance circa
1987 and are not supposed to be used on CB after that time?

Question:
I've heard about that from time to time but never understood - why are
23-channel CBs illegal to sell?
Answer:
Because they are no longer type accepted. Anything after 1987 that is a 23
Ch rig is no longer type accepted and can no longer be sold, traded, given
away, or of course used on the air.. But try to tell that to all the guys
that collect the old Trams and Brownings!

Michael Herron wrote:
The question and answer below was posted in another forum. Is the answer
correct? Did the 23 channel radios effectively lose type acceptance circa
1987 and are not supposed to be used on CB after that time?

Question:
I've heard about that from time to time but never understood - why are
23-channel CBs illegal to sell?
Answer:
Because they are no longer type accepted. Anything after 1987 that is a 23
Ch rig is no longer type accepted and can no longer be sold, traded, given
away, or of course used on the air.. But try to tell that to all the guys
that collect the old Trams and Brownings!


40 channels radios became legal on January 1, 1977, 10 years before 1987.


I believe you can no longer sell, trade or give away 23 channel radios,
but you _can_ sell the microphone and leave the radio attached!

They didn't lose their type acceptance. They are grandfathered. All the
other rules apply. If you modify them to get the other 17 (or more)
channels from them you lose your authority to operate it. Same as any
other transmitter adjustment that results in more then 4 watts carrier
or greater then 90/95% modulation.

If the radio you're running is clean and clear and not bothering anybody,
just go ahead and use it. If you start getting complaints, don't ignore them.
Chances are real good, you'll lose.

Happy radioing!

I believe you can no longer sell, trade or give away 23 channel radios,
but you _can_ sell the microphone and leave the radio attached!

An individual can still sell or buy a 23 channel radio from another
individual.

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I believe you can no longer sell, trade or give away 23 channel radios,
but you _can_ sell the microphone and leave the radio attached!

An individual can still sell or buy a 23 channel radio from another
individual.

The thing is why would you want a 23 channel radio? Collectors I can
understand but not an average CB user. I see a few from time to time on sale
on eBay and some fetch reasonable money. I remember back in the UK in 1980 a
lad lived across the road from my then girlfriend and he had a 23 channel
radio. We always went to channel 24 just to wind him up... I guess im just
evil.. lol.

Regards,
Graham

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Radio is only a Hobby. Don't let it rule your life...

73's - Graham

Thanks for all the input. The inquiry was posed mostly to determine the
accuracy of the statement as I did not think it was much at all correct.
The premise seemed to be that since the newer radios were 40 channel, 23
channels would not be type accepted for sale anymore. I was thinking this
would mean they all had to be 40 channel. If that were the case what about
walkie talkies for CB? Wouldn't they have to be 40 channel as well then if
over 100 milliwatts? Although I don't know for sure, I thought that there
are still walkie talkies that had only a handfull of channels.
Buying an old 23 channel CB would be either for collectors or just for
nostalga of owning one that you thought was really cool back then but wasn't
affordable like a Tram Titan 2 or a Browning rig or a Courier Royale. They
were very well built radios but expensive when I was on back in the late
60's. The ham gear that was run by a very few back then were Viking
Valiants, Heathkit DX-100's and National NC-300 receivers. The Yaesu Ft-101
series became very popular as they came out since you only had to clip the
wire to enable the CB band. It was interesting that there was a cutout in
the chassis to easily access the wire which ran right across it! I had a lot
of fun on Cb but outgrew it in a couple years. I have been a ham since 1970.
I am in support of all CB ops who want to become hams unlike many others.
Soon the code will be dropped and it will be easy to get a license. GOOD!
The more hams the better! I would love to see a day when even though 10
meters is dead for skip conditions there are a bunch of hams on 10 talking
anyway. If ya want to, hop on board! This is one 20wpm extra class, took the
tests in the FCC office, OM that IS supportive.

"The Magnum" wrote in message
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I believe you can no longer sell, trade or give away 23 channel radios,
but you _can_ sell the microphone and leave the radio attached!

An individual can still sell or buy a 23 channel radio from another
individual.

The thing is why would you want a 23 channel radio? Collectors I can
understand but not an average CB user. I see a few from time to time on
sale
on eBay and some fetch reasonable money. I remember back in the UK in 1980
a
lad lived across the road from my then girlfriend and he had a 23 channel
radio. We always went to channel 24 just to wind him up... I guess im just
evil.. lol.

Regards,
Graham

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Radio is only a Hobby. Don't let it rule your life...

73's - Graham

On Sat, 26 Nov 2005 09:57:01 -0000, "The Magnum"
wrote:

wrote in message
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I believe you can no longer sell, trade or give away 23 channel radios,
but you _can_ sell the microphone and leave the radio attached!

An individual can still sell or buy a 23 channel radio from another
individual.

The thing is why would you want a 23 channel radio? Collectors I can
understand but not an average CB user. I see a few from time to time on sale
on eBay and some fetch reasonable money. I remember back in the UK in 1980 a
lad lived across the road from my then girlfriend and he had a 23 channel
radio. We always went to channel 24 just to wind him up... I guess im just
evil.. lol.

Regards,
Graham

One of my trucks has an old 23 channel radio in it. I think it
sounds better than some of the new "junk" out there. All my radios
are stuck on channel 19, so why would I want a 40 channel radio?

"Lancer" wrote in message
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On Sat, 26 Nov 2005 09:57:01 -0000, "The Magnum"
wrote:

wrote in message
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I believe you can no longer sell, trade or give away 23 channel
radios,
but you _can_ sell the microphone and leave the radio attached!

An individual can still sell or buy a 23 channel radio from another
individual.

The thing is why would you want a 23 channel radio? Collectors I can
understand but not an average CB user. I see a few from time to time on
sale
on eBay and some fetch reasonable money. I remember back in the UK in
1980 a
lad lived across the road from my then girlfriend and he had a 23 channel
radio. We always went to channel 24 just to wind him up... I guess im
just
evil.. lol.

Regards,
Graham

One of my trucks has an old 23 channel radio in it. I think it
sounds better than some of the new "junk" out there. All my radios
are stuck on channel 19, so why would I want a 40 channel radio?

You probably don't, until someone you want to listen to goes above ch 23. As
far as junk out there goes you don't have to buy new to get a 40ch. They
have been around since 1977 so there's plenty of good units to choose from.

Regards,
Graham

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Radio is only a Hobby. Don't let it rule your life...

73's - Graham (www.open-channel.co.uk)

Lancer wrote:

On Sat, 26 Nov 2005 09:57:01 -0000, "The Magnum"
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wrote in message
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I believe you can no longer sell, trade or give away 23 channel radios,
but you _can_ sell the microphone and leave the radio attached!


An individual can still sell or buy a 23 channel radio from another
individual.


The thing is why would you want a 23 channel radio? Collectors I can
understand but not an average CB user. I see a few from time to time on sale
on eBay and some fetch reasonable money. I remember back in the UK in 1980 a
lad lived across the road from my then girlfriend and he had a 23 channel
radio. We always went to channel 24 just to wind him up... I guess im just
evil.. lol.

Regards,
Graham



One of my trucks has an old 23 channel radio in it. I think it
sounds better than some of the new "junk" out there. All my radios
are stuck on channel 19, so why would I want a 40 channel radio?


You can buy any radio as long as it was "type acceptance" when it was new!
Its the same thing with police scanners that received the 800MHz cell
phones.
You can buy them used without a problem. As long as they were type
accepted at the time of manufacture.

From: (Scott*in*Baltimore)
I believe you can no longer sell, trade or give

away 23 channel radios, but you _can_ sell

the microphone and leave the radio attached!


Not sure about the sale of such a radio at this point in time, but you
can give it away legally,,,,,just like beer! You can't legally sell a
beer to an adult (without an alcohol license) but you can give him one
free. "Buy a sticker, get a free beer" worked at many venues for years.

"DrDeath" wrote in message
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"The Magnum" wrote in message
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wrote in message
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I believe you can no longer sell, trade or give away 23 channel
radios,
but you _can_ sell the microphone and leave the radio attached!

An individual can still sell or buy a 23 channel radio from another
individual.

The thing is why would you want a 23 channel radio? Collectors I can
understand but not an average CB user. I see a few from time to time on
sale
on eBay and some fetch reasonable money. I remember back in the UK in
1980
a
lad lived across the road from my then girlfriend and he had a 23
channel
radio. We always went to channel 24 just to wind him up... I guess im
just
evil.. lol.

Regards,
Graham

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Radio is only a Hobby. Don't let it rule your life...

73's - Graham



I hate to say it, but I have several 23 channel radios. My favorite of the
bunch is my cam 89 with turner +3. But not everyone has a pile of radios
piled in the corner.

Yes but you obviously collect them and don't use them. Nothing wrong with
that. In fact I guess there's nothing wrong with running a 23 channel rig
but for someone earlier to say there's nothing ever been produced since 23
channel rigs that's any good gave me a good laugh. In fact I just had to
stop typing as I was laughing some more just thinking about it.. lolol

Regards,
Graham

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Radio is only a Hobby. Don't let it rule your life...

73's - Graham (www.open-channel.co.uk)