From: "Peter"
Newsgroups: rec.radio.cb,uk.rec.radio.cb
References: 43916238.0@entanet

Date: Sun, 4 Dec 2005 09:49:06 -0000
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NNTP-Posting-Host: 62.249.253.78
Message-ID: 43934e09.0@entanet
X-Trace: 4 Dec 2005 20:14:01 GMT, 62.249.253.78
Path:
g2news1.google.com!news4.google.com!news.glorb.com !molokai.public-internet.co.uk!newspeer.public-int
ernet.co.uk!caladan!entanet!62.249.253.78

No "ping" need be done to see you use a remailer path
to https://www.mixmaster.it/ to allow you 3 levels of
encryption, and while your IP "appears" to trace to Nykøbing Mors, Denmark
to Amsterdam, and then to London, you could be ANYWHERE. And I am
certain that 'anywhere' is....yes, you guessed it...Birmingham.

There are many pieces of evidence that all add up to confirm this.

-the old DejaNews post from Birmingham with your name on it
-your refusal to answer the 'Birmingham' questions I gave you
-your published dislike of Blair
-your hasty Peak District cover story
-your unusual familiarity with M&S employee policies
-your alter ego as producer of rec.radio.cb humour pages (where
you admit to living in Brum, driving a van, etc)

Some people need a life, or just time to wipe all the brown off their nose.

"Scott in Baltimore" wrote...
Some people need a life, or just time to wipe all the brown off their nose.

His post had me in fits of laughter.

High tech software, high level encryption, remailers, bouncing messages between servers in
different countries, selecting your own IP and cover stories to hide identity.
It reads like some spoof spy film, but the best of all... all this for, as he claims, a
"poorly paid M&S vannie from Birmingham".

It's friggin hilarious. He is either one helluva comedian or, if he really believes his own
stories, a very sick person. He is either telling jokes, or he is a joke.
I do so hope that I am not laughing at some poor sod's affliction, but it really is the stuff
of TV comedy shows.


Regards,

Peter.

wrote...
From: "Peter"
Newsgroups: rec.radio.cb,uk.rec.radio.cb
References: 43916238.0@entanet

Date: Sun, 4 Dec 2005 09:49:06 -0000
NNTP-Posting-Host: 62.249.253.78
Message-ID: 43934e09.0@entanet
X-Trace: 4 Dec 2005 20:14:01 GMT, 62.249.253.78
Path:

g2news1.google.com!news4.google.com!news.glorb.com !molokai.public-internet.co.uk!newspeer.publi
c-int
ernet.co.uk!caladan!entanet!62.249.253.78

No "ping" need be done to see you use a remailer path
to https://www.mixmaster.it/

What the hell have you been smoking? Once the drugs wear off, take a look at this...

Message-ID: 43934e09.0@entanet

Simple as that... Entanet.
They are the company who my ISP use to provide the servers for the Email, newsgroups and Web
site. No remailer - direct from this computer, through a Freeola Dial-up Modem, to Enternet.

Look again at the path...

Path: g2news1.google.com!news4.google.com!news.glorb.com
!molokai.public-internet.co.uk!newspeer.public-internet.co.uk
!caladan!entanet!62.249.253.78

From the Enternet server, through whatever path is necessary, to g2news1.google.com.
No remailer.

to allow you 3 levels of encryption,

3 Levels of encryption? Who the hell do you think I am... James f'king Bond???

and while your IP

It is NOT *my* IP. It was assigned to me for a short period, and ceased to
have any links to me to as soon as I disconnected... immediately after
sending mail.

"appears" to trace to Nykøbing Mors, Denmark
to Amsterdam, and then to London

Yeah, right... wait until the drugs wear off and try again.

You need to remember that, apart from the final destination, all the listed servers are simply
a way of getting from A to B. Someone pinging from another location may get a totally
different path.
As for the final link, the one that the IP refers to, that is simply the location of the
service provider's servers. If my ISP decided to take my message through the London Enternet
servers, that's nothing to do with me.

you could be ANYWHERE.

So you admit that I could actually be where I say I am. Maybe there is hope that you can find
a way out your dream world.

-the old DejaNews post from Birmingham with your name on it

I am NOT the only Peter in the World. That message, if it was even genuine, was
posted before I even got on the Internet. So, clearly, one of the millions of other
Peters in the World.

-your refusal to answer the 'Birmingham' questions I gave you

I didn't refuse, as I made clear.
It was pointless for many reasons:
1. Graham had already answered them, so answers were there to be seen.
2. They were general knowledge questions, not only known to Brummies.
(If only Brummies know the answers then you must be a Brummy.)
3. We are all on the Internet... anyone can Google Search for the answers.
4. You asked those same questions a few years back, and I gave you
answers to the ones I knew.
5. If I do not know the answers, you will simply say I am lying so that you
can remain in your dream world.
6. In your sick mind, you are convinced of your own silly story and will
never accept the truth. You wouldn't recognise the truth if it kicked
you in the nads.

-your published dislike of Blair

Prove I dislike him.
Prove that only Brummies dislike him.

-your hasty Peak District cover story

Prove it is a "cover".

your unusual familiarity with M&S employee policies

Prove it, where do I display any knowledge of their employee policies?
Prove that M&S only exist in Birmingham.
Prove that their only jobs are driving vans.

you admit to living in Brum, driving a van, etc

Prove it.

You need to keep taking the medication, it should kick in at some point. And
stop watching the spy movies, they are warping your mind.

"Scott in Baltimore" wrote...
Some people need a life, or just time to wipe all the brown off their nose.

His post had me in fits of laughter.

High tech software, high level encryption, remailers, bouncing messages between servers in
different countries, selecting your own IP and cover stories to hide identity.
It reads like some spoof spy film, but the best of all... all this for, as he claims, a
"poorly paid M&S vannie from Birmingham".

It's friggin hilarious. He is either one helluva comedian or, if he really believes his own
stories, a very sick person. He is either telling jokes, or he is a joke.
I do so hope that I am not laughing at some poor sod's affliction, but it really is the stuff
of TV comedy shows.


Regards,

Peter.


Laugh all you want, Peter. Your mixmaster remailer is hardly hi-tech or exotic,
but you DID use it, and that is ON the record. Anyone can trace your IP, there
are still security holes that can be used to discover the real sender of a
message, even when you have "chained" it through multiple remailers,
and it will eventually show Birmingham, Birmingham, Birmingham.

No matter what alias you use, be it "B. Swollocks" or "Buster Brumworthy",
I know who you are, and Brum is tattooed on your chest with indelible ink.

The test questions I gave you were not to text your knowledge of Brum,
but to see HOW you answered (or avoided) the questions. For example,
you were quick to point out the chocolate was "Cadbury" rather than
"Cadbury's"...something Brummies are born knowing, however those in
outlying districts do not make that distinction.

So go on watching William Regal on the telly and stuffing your gob with
pasties and collecting M&S pension. Spare me your prating about how
you "never heard of Birmingham" and "never set foot in the west midlands",
I don't believe it for a moment and no one else does either.

wrote...
From: "Peter"
Newsgroups: rec.radio.cb,uk.rec.radio.cb
References: 43916238.0@entanet

Date: Sun, 4 Dec 2005 09:49:06 -0000
NNTP-Posting-Host: 62.249.253.78
Message-ID: 43934e09.0@entanet
X-Trace: 4 Dec 2005 20:14:01 GMT, 62.249.253.78
Path:

g2news1.google.com!news4.google.com!news.glorb.com !molokai.public-internet.co.uk!newspeer.publi
c-int
ernet.co.uk!caladan!entanet!62.249.253.78

No "ping" need be done to see you use a remailer path
to https://www.mixmaster.it/

What the hell have you been smoking? Once the drugs wear off, take a look at this...

Message-ID: 43934e09.0@entanet

Simple as that... Entanet.
They are the company who my ISP use to provide the servers for the Email, newsgroups and Web
site. No remailer - direct from this computer, through a Freeola Dial-up Modem, to Enternet.

Look again at the path...

Path: g2news1.google.com!news4.google.com!news.glorb.com
!molokai.public-internet.co.uk!newspeer.public-internet.co.uk
!caladan!entanet!62.249.253.78


Do you see that? "molokai.public-internet.co.uk" is a port to the mixmaster
Tonga remailer. Don't pretend it's not. Your hippy-dippy "freeola" dial up
cover story doesn't work here.


From the Enternet server, through whatever path is necessary, to g2news1.google.com.
No remailer.

to allow you 3 levels of encryption,

3 Levels of encryption? Who the hell do you think I am... James f'king Bond???


No you're just a Brummie nerk who desperately wants to hide his past.



and while your IP

It is NOT *my* IP. It was assigned to me for a short period, and ceased to
have any links to me to as soon as I disconnected... immediately after
sending mail.

"appears" to trace to Nykøbing Mors, Denmark
to Amsterdam, and then to London

Yeah, right... wait until the drugs wear off and try again.

Anyone can do the trace. I am not about to post screen shots from my network
analyzer software.

You need to remember that, apart from the final destination, all the listed servers are simply
a way of getting from A to B. Someone pinging from another location may get a totally
different path.
As for the final link, the one that the IP refers to, that is simply the location of the
service provider's servers. If my ISP decided to take my message through the London Enternet
servers, that's nothing to do with me.

you could be ANYWHERE.

So you admit that I could actually be where I say I am. Maybe there is hope that you can find
a way out your dream world.

You could be anywhere but you are probably spending the holidays in Birmingham.
No doubt your family is there, many of whom also are on the dole or M&S disability
pension. Or perhaps you could go back to Lille where you worked as a routier in
the 1970's for a short time and learned your trade.


-the old DejaNews post from Birmingham with your name on it

I am NOT the only Peter in the World. That message, if it was even genuine, was
posted before I even got on the Internet. So, clearly, one of the millions of other
Peters in the World.

-your refusal to answer the 'Birmingham' questions I gave you

I didn't refuse, as I made clear.
It was pointless for many reasons:
1. Graham had already answered them, so answers were there to be seen.
2. They were general knowledge questions, not only known to Brummies.
(If only Brummies know the answers then you must be a Brummy.)


It was not designed to test the correctness of the answers. Just your reactions to
the questions. The fact you let Graham "go ahead of you in the queque" spoke
volumes.


3. We are all on the Internet... anyone can Google Search for the answers.
4. You asked those same questions a few years back, and I gave you
answers to the ones I knew.

Ha ha, I don''t think so. But nice try. Prove it.


5. If I do not know the answers, you will simply say I am lying so that you
can remain in your dream world.
6. In your sick mind, you are convinced of your own silly story and will
never accept the truth. You wouldn't recognise the truth if it kicked
you in the nads.


The truth is that you are Brum and you should admit it. There are probably
photos of you astride the brass bull in Brum City centre ****ed out of your mind.


-your published dislike of Blair

Prove I dislike him.
Prove that only Brummies dislike him.


I never said only Brummie dislike him. But you dislike him. Under your "Beverly
Swollocks" alias you once wrote 'I want to have his baby".



-your hasty Peak District cover story

Prove it is a "cover".


I don't have to prove a thing. You trumped up the Peak District story to salve your
chums in the uk cb newsgroup. I don't know why you did it, or why you are ashamed
of your Brum connexions. It's not for me to prove how or why, although I can guess.


your unusual familiarity with M&S employee policies

Prove it, where do I display any knowledge of their employee policies?


You said "poorly paid M&S vannie". I never said you were poorly paid -- BUT YOU
ADMITTED TO IT --- a fact that most people wouldn't know. And you know EXACTLY
how much an M&S vannie gets paid - because YOU WAS ONE!


Prove that M&S only exist in Birmingham.


I never said that. But you worked for them after you got fired from Selfridges.


Prove that their only jobs are driving vans.


I never said that neither. But you did drive a van with St. Michaels on it.


you admit to living in Brum, driving a van, etc

Prove it.


I will not go digging up the posts where you complain to your buddies in
the uk cb group about making ends meet on "an M&S vannie's salary",
you know they are there, anyone can find them.

wrote...

Laugh all you want, Peter. Your mixmaster remailer

Get your head out from your ass and accept the facts...

I have no "remailer" and I have NEVER, ever used one in my life.
I connect direct to my ISP and send mail and news messages direct through my ISP.

It is so damn simple to see, as the ISP stamp their IP and name in the header...

NNTP-Posting-Host: 195.74.115.192

195.74.115.192 = Enternet.

Message-ID: 43967b10.0@entanet

As it says, Enternet.

X-Trace: 7 Dec 2005 06:02:56 GMT, 195.74.115.192

195.74.115.192 = Enternet

It doesn't get any easier than that. But, here are more details on IPs that I
may have been allocated recently...

62.249.192.97:1133707983=fa3-19.telehouse-east.core.enta.net
62.249.255.54:1133707984=pos1-1-0.telehouse-east3.core.enta.net
62.249.253.78:1133934909=62-249-253-78.dial.entanet.co.uk

inetnum: 195.74.106.128 - 195.74.106.255
netname: ENTANET
descr: ENTANET International Ltd
descr: Stafford Park 6
descr: Telford Shropshire UK

route: 195.74.96.0/19
descr: ENTANET International Ltd
descr: Stafford Park 6
descr: Telford, Shropshire


but you DID use it, and that is ON the record.

No. According to the header YOU supplied (assuming you got that correct)...

My ISP NNTP server, Enternet, decided to send my post to "caladan".
Caladan decided to send a copy on to "newspeer.public-internet.co.uk", who
decided to send a copy to "molokai.public-internet.co.uk", who decided to send
a copy to "news.glorb.com".
According to the header you provided, Google would have got their copy
from "news.glorb.com".

I do NOT run the Internet, so have NO control over which servers each news
server decides to send copies to. Do you tell Google or AOL which news servers
they should use?
You clearly watch too many films.

Anyone can trace your IP,

Almost anyone... you failed.
You traced the wrong number, you traced ISPs, you found the wrong city, you got
names mixed up (see below)... and you even came up with some idea that I
control all the servers on the Internet.
Can you not get anything right?

there are still security holes that
can be used to discover the real sender of a message,
even when you have "chained" it through multiple remailers,

If you knew ANYTHING about tracing people, you would not come out with such shyte.
You would also have taken up that other challenge, state where that other message
came from.
Want some help with it, or are you avoiding it?

and it will eventually show Birmingham, Birmingham, Birmingham.

If you get "Birmingham, Birmingham, Birmingham", then you are failing miserably. But,
considering that you got everything else wrong, it's no surprise.

you were quick to point out the chocolate was "Cadbury" rather
than "Cadbury's"...

LOOK AGAIN.
When you are unable to read names and distinguish between different people, it
really should be no surprise that you fail on all your other quests.
I could almost feel sorry for you.

Spare me your prating about how you
"never heard of Birmingham" and "never set foot in the west midlands",

Again, you are failing on your reading skills...

I NEVER said that I "never heard of Birmingham".
I NEVER said that I have "never set foot in the west midlands". In fact, I stated
that I once visited the NEC back in the early 80s.

You really should learn to read.

I don't believe it for a moment and no one else does either.

Oh, so you now speak for the whole World, do you?
You really need to seek professional help, go find someone who can
drug you up enough to be sure that you pose no threat to the general public.


Merry Christmas.

wrote...

Look again at the path...

Path: g2news1.google.com!news4.google.com!news.glorb.com
!molokai.public-internet.co.uk!newspeer.public-internet.co.uk
!caladan!entanet!62.249.253.78

Do you see that? "molokai.public-internet.co.uk" is a port to the mixmaster
Tonga remailer. Don't pretend it's not.

I already explained how to read that header, but I clearly have to give
you the "Dummy's Guide"...

First of all, as I cannot be arsed to spend time checking headers to make sure you have
read one correctly and quoted it correctly, I will assume that the above header is accurate.
Now, as each server adds it's name to the beginning of the list, you must read that
header backwards:

1. !62.249.253.78
The source of the message. As my system is not a server, it is simply referred to by the
IP address that the ISP allocated to me at the time I made the post. However, once I hit
the "disconnect" button, that number ceases to be a link to me or my computer.

2 !entanet
The name of the NNTP server that I sent the message to. At this point, where the
message goes is totally out of my control.

3. !news4.google.com
!caladan
!newspeer.public-internet.co.uk
!molokai.public-internet.co.uk
!news.glorb.com
A list of the servers that were used to get the message from the news server I used
to the news server that you used. As I do not run the Internet, I have NO
control over where each server decides to send it next.

4. g2news1.google.com
Your server at your end... The Troll's friend, Google.

Do you really think that some UK server exists purely as a "port" to just *one*
service in another country? It is simply relaying messages between other
Internet servers, any messages that are sent to it.

Anyone can do the trace.

Except you, clearly.

I am not about to post screen shots from my network
analyzer software.

Would that be the one that tells you where someone was born, their work history
and gives a list of places they lived??
As the bird in the clock says... Cuckoo.

It was not designed to test the correctness of the answers. Just your reactions to
the questions. The fact you let Graham "go ahead of you in the queque" spoke
volumes.

I have told you so many times that you are embarrassing yourself by acting so stupid.
GET YOUR HEARING AID FIXED!!!

As I do not live on the Internet, I almost always take more than the four hours you
allowed to reply. If you had any "Net Stalking" abilities, you would have spotted that
I commonly take days to reply to a message.
But, once again, you must put your total ignorance on public display.

Also, if you had any knowledge of such tests, you would have considered that
anyone who did not know the answers will take longer as they need to look the
answers up.
But, once again, you must publicly display your ignorance.

I don't have to prove a thing.

It's not for me to prove how or why, although I can guess.

What you really mean, is that you CANNOT prove it because it is
all in your imagination.

But, as you mention the subject...
As I have no need to answer to you, explain where I live or give personal details, you
should not whine because you don't believe the facts.
As you don't even give a Christian name, and keep changing your ID and Email
address, you are hardly in a position to accuse others of "hiding".
When you give your full name, birth place, present address, employment details,
work history, and a regular Email and ID that you stick to, maybe you can start
complaining that other people are hiding.

I will not go digging up the posts where you complain to your buddies in
the uk cb group about making ends meet on "an M&S vannie's salary",
you know they are there, anyone can find them.

snip

Or perhaps you could go back to Lille where you worked as a routier in
the 1970's for a short time and learned your trade.

snip

But you worked for them after you got fired from Selfridges.

Lille, Selfridges, posts about making ends meet??? This is getting too
stupid even to laugh at.

I am beginning to get the impression that you really believe this crud you're
spouting.
Considering the time you are spending examining every tiny detail of my
headers, pinging IP numbers and dreaming up ideas about every part of
my life - who I am, where I live, where I have lived, where I was born, where
I work, where I have worked, what jobs I have done in the past, what food I
like to eat, etc - I would say that you have a serious obsession.

I would suggest that you take any outstanding issues you have to
someone qualified to drug you up until all your troubles go away.


Merry Christmas.

wrote in message
...
Anyone can do the trace. I am not about to post screen shots from my
network
analyzer software.

prick

wrote in message
...
Anyone can do the trace. I am not about to post screen shots from my
network
analyzer software.

prick



I don't understand all the frustrated and angry reactions. I am just
stating the truth.