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Old January 12th 06, 07:32 PM posted to rec.radio.cb
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Well... you guys can play around with your little toy soldering iron.
I'll continue to use my http://www.hexaconelectric.com/thermo.html

Professor
www.telstar-electronics.com

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Old January 13th 06, 04:07 AM posted to rec.radio.cb
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Actually cordless soldering irons are preffered in small static
senesitive areas. Larger wattage irons that are plugged into AC
outlets can do more damage than cordless irons with static sensitive
parts.


I use a 12 VDC iron plugged into a 13.8 V ps for sensitive stuff.
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Old January 13th 06, 08:47 PM posted to rec.radio.cb
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"james" wrote in message
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On Mon, 9 Jan 2006 00:34:33 -0600, "DrDeath"
wrote:

+"Clark" wrote in message
...
+ How many of you have rushed out to get one of the Cold/Heat soldering
+ irons.
+ Runs off of 4 AA batteries WOW! allot of energy in those babies, most
+ likely
+ good for one PL259 soldering job.
+
+
+
+They show them soldering an IC. I don't think the IC would like that.
+

********

Most ICs are tolerent to 400 degrees celsius for up to 10 seconds when
heat is applied to the pin. In IR assited reflow ovens, most
components on the board are subject to 275 degree C heat upwards of 45
to 90 seconds. Total reflow process time for surface mounted
components in a reflow oven is between 5 and 7 minutes. Most of that
will determine the pallete material that act as carrier for the PCBs.

FR4/5 laminate material will withstand heat around 300 degrees C for 7
to 10 minutes without discoloration or delamination.


james


I haven't had a chance to see one in person. But from the commercial, it
appears to look like an arc. That can't be good for sensitive electronics. I
think I'll stick to my Hakko or my butane until I've had a chance to use
one.


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Old January 13th 06, 08:50 PM posted to rec.radio.cb
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"Lancer" wrote in message
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On Thu, 12 Jan 2006 22:07:17 -0500, Scott in Baltimore
wrote:

Actually cordless soldering irons are preffered in small static
senesitive areas. Larger wattage irons that are plugged into AC
outlets can do more damage than cordless irons with static sensitive
parts.


I use a 12 VDC iron plugged into a 13.8 V ps for sensitive stuff.


Scott;
Its not the power it runs on, its the difference in potential
between the tip and the device your soldering. If the tips not at the
same potential (I.E. static) you can damage the component.


But you can ground yourself to the project at hand and use a butane iron.


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Old January 13th 06, 09:24 PM posted to rec.radio.cb
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DrDeath wrote:
"Lancer" wrote in message
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On Thu, 12 Jan 2006 22:07:17 -0500, Scott in Baltimore
wrote:


Actually cordless soldering irons are preffered in small static
senesitive areas. Larger wattage irons that are plugged into AC
outlets can do more damage than cordless irons with static sensitive
parts.

I use a 12 VDC iron plugged into a 13.8 V ps for sensitive stuff.


Scott;
Its not the power it runs on, its the difference in potential
between the tip and the device your soldering. If the tips not at the
same potential (I.E. static) you can damage the component.



But you can ground yourself to the project at hand and use a butane iron.



I never saw Lancer's post. Glad you quoted it.

I have another iron that's AC. I connected a wire to the heater's frame and
run that to the screw on the outlet. It drops the 40 volts leakage to about
1 or 2 volts. Make sure the item is unplugged that you're working on! There
should be a resistor between the frame and the ground to prevent mucho current
from flowing. There are 1Mohm resistors in a grounding strap to limit current
way below 100 mA if you should touch a 120 VAC line while grounded.


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Old January 13th 06, 10:39 PM posted to rec.radio.cb
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All that thing is two pieces of carbon conduction elements that uses the
piece that needs soldering as the circuit short causing the heat, there is 6
volts DC between the two ends.
Oh by the way, the tip does get HOT and will burn the **** out of you after
soldering for 5 seconds., even after 20 seconds of cooling off. In the
commercial it shows a guy touching the tip right after using it. His fingers
must have been soaked in cold water first.


"Professor" wrote in message
oups.com...
Well... you guys can play around with your little toy soldering iron.
I'll continue to use my http://www.hexaconelectric.com/thermo.html

Professor
www.telstar-electronics.com



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Old January 13th 06, 10:54 PM posted to rec.radio.cb
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Thanks for the info about the carbon tips. Very simple indeed...
problem is... doesn't work very well... LOL

Professor
www.telstar-electronics.com

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Old January 14th 06, 01:18 AM posted to rec.radio.cb
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Lancer wrote:

How do you ground Butane...:-)

On a spit rotisserie?
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Old January 14th 06, 04:41 AM posted to rec.radio.cb
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"Lancer" wrote in message
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On Fri, 13 Jan 2006 13:50:30 -0600, "DrDeath"
wrote:

"Lancer" wrote in message
news:43c7a6c4.83866046@2355323778...
On Thu, 12 Jan 2006 22:07:17 -0500, Scott in Baltimore
wrote:

Actually cordless soldering irons are preffered in small static
senesitive areas. Larger wattage irons that are plugged into AC
outlets can do more damage than cordless irons with static sensitive
parts.

I use a 12 VDC iron plugged into a 13.8 V ps for sensitive stuff.

Scott;
Its not the power it runs on, its the difference in potential
between the tip and the device your soldering. If the tips not at the
same potential (I.E. static) you can damage the component.


But you can ground yourself to the project at hand and use a butane iron.


As long as everything is at the same potential...

How do you ground Butane...:-)



I sell butane grounding equipment for the measly price of 4 payments of
99.95 make checks and M.O. to cash. LOL


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Old January 14th 06, 07:17 AM posted to rec.radio.cb
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"DrDeath" wrote:
I sell butane grounding equipment for the measly price of 4 payments of

99.95 make checks and M.O. to cash. LOL

Hook me up! lol
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