In article , MRQuickBoard says...

That is why i am asking if it can be done if it cannot be done then i wont
do it and stay away from ham radio. don't want to waste my money getting a
license or the time to study if it cannot be done.

It's not a question of whether it CAN be done. In the technical
sense, of course it can. The question is whether what you want to do is
applicable to the real purposes of the amateur radio service.

I will add that getting wireless access to the Internet is not why
the service exists. You would know this if you had taken the time to do
some basic research with Part 97 of the FCC regs, or visited ARRL.org
and read 'The Amateur's Code.'

If you don't like the thought of helping to serve the real
purposes of amateur radio (helping with disaster and other emergency
communications, teaching a ham radio class, developing the skills and
acquiring the tools necessary to tinker with radio and related
electronic hardware, etc.), then you would be well advised to steer
clear of the amateur service.

In short: If all you really want is wireless Internet access, pop
down to your local CompUSA or whoever, and pick up the hardware to do
it. Anyone who wants to can buy it, no license required.


--
Dr. Anton Squeegee, Director, Dutch Surrealist Plumbing Institute
(Known to some as Bruce Lane, KC7GR)
kyrrin a/t bluefeathertech d-o=t c&o&m
"Quando Omni Flunkus Moritati" (Red Green)

There is a new radio by ICOM called D-Star that suppost to let you do this.
I'm not sure of the FCC rules but ICOM's website is a good place to start. I
understand it cost about $1400.00 and works at 1.2G so it's costly for what
yo are looking for.

Carl


"MRQuickBoard" wrote in message
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That is why i am asking if it can be done if it cannot be done then i wont
do it and stay away from ham radio. don't want to waste my money getting a
license or the time to study if it cannot be done.


"Rob Judd" wrote in message
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You can't. If you were a licensed ham you'd know that.

Rob


MRQuickBoard wrote:

How Do I Use Radio As A Internet Connection, i am wanting to know how
i
can
use a mobile ham radio and hook it up to a laptop to be able to
connect
to
the internet so i can use irc chat dont need fast connection speed.
would
like to be able to chat on IRC while camping/fishing ware no cell
service is
avaiable.

There is a new radio by ICOM called D-Star that suppost to let you do this.
I'm not sure of the FCC rules but ICOM's website is a good place to start. I
understand it cost about $1400.00 and works at 1.2G so it's costly for what
yo are looking for.

Carl


"MRQuickBoard" wrote in message
...
That is why i am asking if it can be done if it cannot be done then i wont
do it and stay away from ham radio. don't want to waste my money getting a
license or the time to study if it cannot be done.


"Rob Judd" wrote in message
...
You can't. If you were a licensed ham you'd know that.

Rob


MRQuickBoard wrote:

How Do I Use Radio As A Internet Connection, i am wanting to know how
i
can
use a mobile ham radio and hook it up to a laptop to be able to
connect
to
the internet so i can use irc chat dont need fast connection speed.
would
like to be able to chat on IRC while camping/fishing ware no cell
service is
avaiable.

Very good point about commercial content in web pages.
To the original question: Does it have to be Internet chat or can't you
simply use the digital communication modes that already abound? That would
be simpler, provide more options and probably much more reliable.
For the sake of conversation, how much would the option to view a webpage
in text-only filter commercial content (i.e. pop ups, banners, etc.)? The
topic is fairly common among folks interested in ham radio. Or, is the only
true solution to filter, edit and make available certain html pages from a
stand alone server via a club station's ham radio?
o_o_o_o
Best Regards, /| ,[_____],
Jim, WP3JQ |¯¯¯L --O|||||||O-
()_)¯()_) ¯¯¯¯¯ )_)
EM60qk 30.447439N 086.628959W

Very good point about commercial content in web pages.
To the original question: Does it have to be Internet chat or can't you
simply use the digital communication modes that already abound? That would
be simpler, provide more options and probably much more reliable.
For the sake of conversation, how much would the option to view a webpage
in text-only filter commercial content (i.e. pop ups, banners, etc.)? The
topic is fairly common among folks interested in ham radio. Or, is the only
true solution to filter, edit and make available certain html pages from a
stand alone server via a club station's ham radio?
o_o_o_o
Best Regards, /| ,[_____],
Jim, WP3JQ |¯¯¯L --O|||||||O-
()_)¯()_) ¯¯¯¯¯ )_)
EM60qk 30.447439N 086.628959W

Charles,
Of course the idea of filtering anything off the web was just
brainstorming and I'd never put my callsign behind anything like it either.
Thanks for not lighting a match at the utterance of the E-word on a ham NG.
I'm just rambling outside the box.
For the Group: Is it plausible to pass data through a repeater above or
below voice just like the subaudible tones?
o_o_o_o
Best Regards, /| ,[_____],
Jim, WP3JQ |¯¯¯L --O|||||||O-
()_)¯()_) ¯¯¯¯¯ )_)
EM60qk 30.447439N 086.628959W

Charles,
Of course the idea of filtering anything off the web was just
brainstorming and I'd never put my callsign behind anything like it either.
Thanks for not lighting a match at the utterance of the E-word on a ham NG.
I'm just rambling outside the box.
For the Group: Is it plausible to pass data through a repeater above or
below voice just like the subaudible tones?
o_o_o_o
Best Regards, /| ,[_____],
Jim, WP3JQ |¯¯¯L --O|||||||O-
()_)¯()_) ¯¯¯¯¯ )_)
EM60qk 30.447439N 086.628959W

Hi,

Well, getting a ham license isn't exactly a waste of time, but it does
carry some responsibilities. Unfortunately for us, one of them is
abiding by communications law.

Currently, governments like to be able to trace directly where
communications on their system originate. It has to do with law
enforcement mainly. Hams in the US have been able to do email via the
internet for a while, and it is regarded here in Australia as
"allowable" for licensed hams providing they don't have direct access to
the 'net.

I think such services, if allowed, would be swamped fairly quickly with
illegal operators anyhow (remember how CB got going?). And someone still
has to pay for the fixed station bandwidth, both on air and cable. If it
ever comes to pass, be assured that the government will charge heavily
for the right to monopolise a static frequency.

Rob


MRQuickBoard wrote:

That is why i am asking if it can be done if it cannot be done then i wont
do it and stay away from ham radio. don't want to waste my money getting a
license or the time to study if it cannot be done.

"Rob Judd" wrote in message
...
You can't. If you were a licensed ham you'd know that.

Rob


MRQuickBoard wrote:

How Do I Use Radio As A Internet Connection, i am wanting to know how i
can
use a mobile ham radio and hook it up to a laptop to be able to connect
to
the internet so i can use irc chat dont need fast connection speed.
would
like to be able to chat on IRC while camping/fishing ware no cell
service is
avaiable.

Hi,

Well, getting a ham license isn't exactly a waste of time, but it does
carry some responsibilities. Unfortunately for us, one of them is
abiding by communications law.

Currently, governments like to be able to trace directly where
communications on their system originate. It has to do with law
enforcement mainly. Hams in the US have been able to do email via the
internet for a while, and it is regarded here in Australia as
"allowable" for licensed hams providing they don't have direct access to
the 'net.

I think such services, if allowed, would be swamped fairly quickly with
illegal operators anyhow (remember how CB got going?). And someone still
has to pay for the fixed station bandwidth, both on air and cable. If it
ever comes to pass, be assured that the government will charge heavily
for the right to monopolise a static frequency.

Rob


MRQuickBoard wrote:

That is why i am asking if it can be done if it cannot be done then i wont
do it and stay away from ham radio. don't want to waste my money getting a
license or the time to study if it cannot be done.

"Rob Judd" wrote in message
...
You can't. If you were a licensed ham you'd know that.

Rob


MRQuickBoard wrote:

How Do I Use Radio As A Internet Connection, i am wanting to know how i
can
use a mobile ham radio and hook it up to a laptop to be able to connect
to
the internet so i can use irc chat dont need fast connection speed.
would
like to be able to chat on IRC while camping/fishing ware no cell
service is
avaiable.

Bill Vodall wrote:

You can't. If you were a licensed ham you'd know that.

Sure you can. (With a Tech or better Amateur License of course.) I
use Jabber, FreeAgent and POP for Email from a Windows 98 systerm,
through a Linux router to a Linux gateway. All are relatively low
traffic systems and work adequately even at a mere 1200 baud. A
couple other postings here had some good details on how to do it.

Bill,

He specifically asked about Internet Relay Chat, which afaik isn't
available.

Rob