In article ,
says...

Charles,

I see that you don't much care for progress....or are you just always
ornery...bet those who used smoke signals felt the same way when more modern
forms of communication came along.

snippety

As ornery as Charles' reply was (yes, it could have been phrased
much better) he does have one valid point: 'Internet' and 'Ham Radio'
are two entirely different mediums. Always have been, always will be.

IRLP, as I see it, is just a way to get repeater linking done
independent of the restrictions of site-based link transceivers. After
all, the 'L' in IRLP does stand for 'Linking.'

In short: IRLP has its uses, but it will never replace true radio
work.


--
Dr. Anton Squeegee, Director, Dutch Surrealist Plumbing Institute
(Known to some as Bruce Lane, KC7GR)
kyrrin a/t bluefeathertech d-o=t c&o&m
Motorola Radio Programming & Service Available -
http://www.bluefeathertech.com/rf.html
"Quando Omni Flunkus Moritati" (Red Green)

"Dr. A.T. Squeegee" wrote in message
...

IRLP, as I see it, is just a way to get repeater linking done
independent of the restrictions of site-based link transceivers.

My feeling is that "hams" who feel that using radio is a "restriction"
should consider moving on to another hobby.

Charles, N5PVL

"Dr. A.T. Squeegee" wrote in message
...

IRLP, as I see it, is just a way to get repeater linking done
independent of the restrictions of site-based link transceivers.

My feeling is that "hams" who feel that using radio is a "restriction"
should consider moving on to another hobby.

Charles, N5PVL

"charlesb" wrote in message
. com...

"Dr. A.T. Squeegee" wrote in message
...

IRLP, as I see it, is just a way to get repeater linking done
independent of the restrictions of site-based link transceivers.

My feeling is that "hams" who feel that using radio is a "restriction"
should consider moving on to another hobby.

Charles, N5PVL


I've done a bit of research over the past year.
Notes are in a folder in the left-hand desk drawer.
If you want to see them you have to come visit.

Pretty simple to check the callsigns (where the poster
actually admits to having a callsign) against databases
like the DX spotting networks. To date there has been
one hit. I know it sound silly, but of those folks who
seem to think "not using radio" is some kind of advancement
of the art of "using radio" ... only one actually seems to
have ever used radio in the past year. Imagine my surprise.

No, I didn't bother to check license databases or qrz.com
or whatever to check whether the callsigns used by those
posting "anti-ham-radio" posts were actually licensed.

No, I will not divulge the callsign of the European ham who
showed up in the DX spotting network (JA database) :-)

--

... Hank

Hank: http://horedson.home.att.net
W0RLI: http://w0rli.home.att.net

"charlesb" wrote in message
. com...

"Dr. A.T. Squeegee" wrote in message
...

IRLP, as I see it, is just a way to get repeater linking done
independent of the restrictions of site-based link transceivers.

My feeling is that "hams" who feel that using radio is a "restriction"
should consider moving on to another hobby.

Charles, N5PVL


I've done a bit of research over the past year.
Notes are in a folder in the left-hand desk drawer.
If you want to see them you have to come visit.

Pretty simple to check the callsigns (where the poster
actually admits to having a callsign) against databases
like the DX spotting networks. To date there has been
one hit. I know it sound silly, but of those folks who
seem to think "not using radio" is some kind of advancement
of the art of "using radio" ... only one actually seems to
have ever used radio in the past year. Imagine my surprise.

No, I didn't bother to check license databases or qrz.com
or whatever to check whether the callsigns used by those
posting "anti-ham-radio" posts were actually licensed.

No, I will not divulge the callsign of the European ham who
showed up in the DX spotting network (JA database) :-)

--

... Hank

Hank: http://horedson.home.att.net
W0RLI: http://w0rli.home.att.net

"charlesb" wrote

My feeling is that "hams" who feel that using radio is a "restriction"
should consider moving on to another hobby.

....and your feeling are somehow worthy of respect?

"charlesb" wrote

My feeling is that "hams" who feel that using radio is a "restriction"
should consider moving on to another hobby.

....and your feeling are somehow worthy of respect?

In article ,
says...

"Dr. A.T. Squeegee" wrote in message
...

IRLP, as I see it, is just a way to get repeater linking done
independent of the restrictions of site-based link transceivers.

My feeling is that "hams" who feel that using radio is a "restriction"
should consider moving on to another hobby.

Tell you what, Charles. When you come up with a method for making
a link transceiver pair operate reliably, over a single hop, from, say,
Seattle, Washington to Pensacola, Florida, you go ahead and let us all
know, OK? Heck, QST will probably be clamoring for the article on it.
;-)

As for moving on... Naaah. I've been part of the ham radio scene
since 1977. I'm having a blast with it, and I'm not about to stop any
time soon.

There's balance to be found in everything. IRLP has its place, as
does Echolink, but they will never replace radio as a communications
medium. They are merely new tools to increase the usability of the radio
medium.

Methinks a couple of passages from 'The Amateur's Code' are
appropriate here.

-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-

The Amateur is Progressive

Keeping their station abreast of science.
It is well-built and efficient, and ALL operating practice is above
reproach.

The Amateur is Friendly

Slow and patient sending when requested,
friendly advice and counsel to the beginner,
kindly assistance, co-operation and consideration for the interests of
others; these are marks of the amateur spirit.

-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-

Maybe you should have asked me what "restrictions" I was talking
about before making snap assumptions, hmmmm? ;-)

73 de KC7GR


--
Dr. Anton Squeegee, Director, Dutch Surrealist Plumbing Institute
(Known to some as Bruce Lane, KC7GR)
kyrrin a/t bluefeathertech d-o=t c&o&m
Motorola Radio Programming & Service Available -
http://www.bluefeathertech.com/rf.html
"Quando Omni Flunkus Moritati" (Red Green)

In article ,
says...

"Dr. A.T. Squeegee" wrote in message
...

IRLP, as I see it, is just a way to get repeater linking done
independent of the restrictions of site-based link transceivers.

My feeling is that "hams" who feel that using radio is a "restriction"
should consider moving on to another hobby.

Tell you what, Charles. When you come up with a method for making
a link transceiver pair operate reliably, over a single hop, from, say,
Seattle, Washington to Pensacola, Florida, you go ahead and let us all
know, OK? Heck, QST will probably be clamoring for the article on it.
;-)

As for moving on... Naaah. I've been part of the ham radio scene
since 1977. I'm having a blast with it, and I'm not about to stop any
time soon.

There's balance to be found in everything. IRLP has its place, as
does Echolink, but they will never replace radio as a communications
medium. They are merely new tools to increase the usability of the radio
medium.

Methinks a couple of passages from 'The Amateur's Code' are
appropriate here.

-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-

The Amateur is Progressive

Keeping their station abreast of science.
It is well-built and efficient, and ALL operating practice is above
reproach.

The Amateur is Friendly

Slow and patient sending when requested,
friendly advice and counsel to the beginner,
kindly assistance, co-operation and consideration for the interests of
others; these are marks of the amateur spirit.

-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-

Maybe you should have asked me what "restrictions" I was talking
about before making snap assumptions, hmmmm? ;-)

73 de KC7GR


--
Dr. Anton Squeegee, Director, Dutch Surrealist Plumbing Institute
(Known to some as Bruce Lane, KC7GR)
kyrrin a/t bluefeathertech d-o=t c&o&m
Motorola Radio Programming & Service Available -
http://www.bluefeathertech.com/rf.html
"Quando Omni Flunkus Moritati" (Red Green)

"Dr. A.T. Squeegee" wrote

In short: IRLP has its uses, but it will never replace true radio
work.

IRLP is radio hooked to a network. It's the future of public service
and emergency communications. There is no radio manufacturer in
the commercial world who doesn't believe in network radio linking.
Hams should get onboard rather than fight it. This is the 21st Century.