"Steve Stone" wrote in message
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Why is there so much hostility towards IRLP?

What damage? If anything it will maybe help save the hobby which
is little, by little dying.


The purists are out against anything that intermingles and supplements
amateur RADIO communications with commercial RADIO and NON RADIO networks no
matter how much it enhances the end product of VHF/UHF Amateur Radio.

Really?
Perhaps you have not been reading what folks have written.
In any case, tell us all about that enhancement.
How many new licensees has IRLP brought into the hobby?
What bands and modes do they use?
Same questions for EchoLink.
Where did you get your data?

If you can talk from here to there on VHF using neat tricks why bother
taking tests to get on HF ?

Ah. You do understand a little bit.

IRLP and Echolink are Amateur Radio blasphemy to the puritans.

The proper term is "stupidity and ignorance."

To me, its all neat stuff.. even the HF. Part of being interested in overall
communications technology rather than a narrow sampling of what is
available. To each his own.

Have fun!

Steve
N2UBP



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"Hank Oredson" wrote

The proper term is "stupidity and ignorance."

So VOIP is stupid, and the people who do computer networking are
ignorant.

Right...

"Hank Oredson" wrote

The proper term is "stupidity and ignorance."

So VOIP is stupid, and the people who do computer networking are
ignorant.

Right...

In article z1dEb.739202$6C4.681845@pd7tw1no, says...

Why is there so much hostility towards IRLP?

snippety

I'm not hostile to it. Quite the contrary, I see it as a valuable
tool for linking repeaters where regular RF-type links are not
practical.

I realize that it's not real DX, but isn't amateur radio and the Internet
partly about connecting people? Why is there so much hostility towards
exploring radio-related technology like IRLP (which is also a part of ham
radio)?

It's a part of it, but it's not really 'radio-related' because it
depends on the Internet (read: wirelines) for connectivity. The closest
it comes to being radio-related is that some Internet links go over
microwave or satellite relays, and it's still the same TCP/IP protocols.

I guess I just see it all as exploring technology and the Amateur Radio
portion creates unique opportunities to expand that exploration.

Indeed it does. Good to see that someone's not deathly afraid that
it'll corrupt the hobby.


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In article z1dEb.739202$6C4.681845@pd7tw1no, says...

Why is there so much hostility towards IRLP?

snippety

I'm not hostile to it. Quite the contrary, I see it as a valuable
tool for linking repeaters where regular RF-type links are not
practical.

I realize that it's not real DX, but isn't amateur radio and the Internet
partly about connecting people? Why is there so much hostility towards
exploring radio-related technology like IRLP (which is also a part of ham
radio)?

It's a part of it, but it's not really 'radio-related' because it
depends on the Internet (read: wirelines) for connectivity. The closest
it comes to being radio-related is that some Internet links go over
microwave or satellite relays, and it's still the same TCP/IP protocols.

I guess I just see it all as exploring technology and the Amateur Radio
portion creates unique opportunities to expand that exploration.

Indeed it does. Good to see that someone's not deathly afraid that
it'll corrupt the hobby.


--
Dr. Anton Squeegee, Director, Dutch Surrealist Plumbing Institute
(Known to some as Bruce Lane, KC7GR)
kyrrin a/t bluefeathertech d-o=t c&o&m
Motorola Radio Programming & Service Available -
http://www.bluefeathertech.com/rf.html
"Quando Omni Flunkus Moritati" (Red Green)

"Hank Oredson" wrote
"Gene Storey" wrote
"Hank Oredson" wrote

The proper term is "stupidity and ignorance."

So VOIP is stupid, and the people who do computer networking are
ignorant.

Those who quote partial comments are certainly both ...

You've been telling us for a week that "real" hams don't use VOIP, and
"real" hams don't use the networking, so I don't see how this can be considered
a partial quote.

"Hank Oredson" wrote
"Gene Storey" wrote
"Hank Oredson" wrote

The proper term is "stupidity and ignorance."

So VOIP is stupid, and the people who do computer networking are
ignorant.

Those who quote partial comments are certainly both ...

You've been telling us for a week that "real" hams don't use VOIP, and
"real" hams don't use the networking, so I don't see how this can be considered
a partial quote.

"Gene Storey" wrote in message
news:yBsEb.2223$6l1.61@okepread03...
"Hank Oredson" wrote
"Gene Storey" wrote
"Hank Oredson" wrote

The proper term is "stupidity and ignorance."

So VOIP is stupid, and the people who do computer networking are
ignorant.

Those who quote partial comments are certainly both ...

You've been telling us for a week that "real" hams don't use VOIP, and

A week?
You really have NOT been paying attention!

"real" hams don't use the networking, so I don't see how this can be
considered
a partial quote.

Your callsign please, or are you ashamed of it?

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"Gene Storey" wrote in message
news:yBsEb.2223$6l1.61@okepread03...
"Hank Oredson" wrote
"Gene Storey" wrote
"Hank Oredson" wrote

The proper term is "stupidity and ignorance."

So VOIP is stupid, and the people who do computer networking are
ignorant.

Those who quote partial comments are certainly both ...

You've been telling us for a week that "real" hams don't use VOIP, and

A week?
You really have NOT been paying attention!

"real" hams don't use the networking, so I don't see how this can be
considered
a partial quote.

Your callsign please, or are you ashamed of it?

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... Hank

Hank: http://horedson.home.att.net
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"Gene Storey" wrote in message
news:yBsEb.2223$6l1.61@okepread03...
"Hank Oredson" wrote
"Gene Storey" wrote
"Hank Oredson" wrote

The proper term is "stupidity and ignorance."

So VOIP is stupid, and the people who do computer networking are
ignorant.

Those who quote partial comments are certainly both ...

You've been telling us for a week that "real" hams don't use VOIP, and

I have never mentioned VOIP.

"real" hams don't use the networking, so I don't see how this can be
considered

I have never mentioned networking.

a partial quote.

Simple, you failed to quote the whole article.

Bet you are a CBer, here to bug the hams, just like 10 and 12 meters.

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