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Old February 15th 05, 08:53 PM
G7TMG
 
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Apologies if this is a bit off-topic, but figured you guys might know this.

My call is G7TMG and I now live permanently in the US but haven't got around
to taking the US test yet and want to get on the air using my UK call.

I believe I should use W7/G7TMG (or is it G7TMG/W7?) but do I need to state
the "/" as portable if I live here full time?
Also, I presume that my UK HF privileges are no good in the US due to no
morse test???

Any info appreciated.

Sholto.


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Old February 16th 05, 06:09 AM
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On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 11:53:00 -0800, G7TMG wrote:
Apologies if this is a bit off-topic, but figured you guys might know this.

My call is G7TMG and I now live permanently in the US but haven't got around
to taking the US test yet and want to get on the air using my UK call.

I believe I should use W7/G7TMG (or is it G7TMG/W7?) but do I need to state
the "/" as portable if I live here full time?
Also, I presume that my UK HF privileges are no good in the US due to no
morse test???

Any info appreciated.

Sholto.


See http://wireless.fcc.gov/services/amateur/about/recoperating.html
for full information.

Among other things, this says:

Reciprocal operating authority is valid until the expiration date on the
alien's amateur service license. Reciprocal operation in a place where the
Amateur Radio Service is regulated by the FCC must comply with Part 97 of
the FCC's Rules and the International Telecommunication Union Radio
Regulations. Operator privileges are those authorized by the alien's
government, but do not exceed those of the FCC Amateur Extra Class operator.

Bob, N7XY

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Old February 16th 05, 07:16 PM
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Thanks Bob, that link proved quite informative.

It also states:

"When a station is transmitting under the privileges afforded by an amateur
service license granted by the Government of Canada or an amateur service
license granted by any other country with which the United States has a
multilateral or bilateral agreement, an indicator consisting of the
appropriate letter-numeral designating the station location must be included
in the station identification announcement. This indicator must be separated
from the assigned call sign by the slant mark (/) or any suitable word that
denotes the slant mark."

So I guess I don't need to state 'portable' unless I really am portable.
Question is, how do US amateurs say '/', is it "slant", "stroke" or "slash"
???

73's W7/G7TMG


"Bob Nielsen" wrote in message
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On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 11:53:00 -0800, G7TMG wrote:
Apologies if this is a bit off-topic, but figured you guys might know

this.

My call is G7TMG and I now live permanently in the US but haven't got

around
to taking the US test yet and want to get on the air using my UK call.

I believe I should use W7/G7TMG (or is it G7TMG/W7?) but do I need to

state
the "/" as portable if I live here full time?
Also, I presume that my UK HF privileges are no good in the US due to no
morse test???

Any info appreciated.

Sholto.


See http://wireless.fcc.gov/services/amateur/about/recoperating.html
for full information.

Among other things, this says:

Reciprocal operating authority is valid until the expiration date on the
alien's amateur service license. Reciprocal operation in a place where the
Amateur Radio Service is regulated by the FCC must comply with Part 97 of
the FCC's Rules and the International Telecommunication Union Radio
Regulations. Operator privileges are those authorized by the alien's
government, but do not exceed those of the FCC Amateur Extra Class

operator.

Bob, N7XY



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Old February 16th 05, 09:35 PM
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On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 10:16:13 -0800, G7TMG wrote:
Thanks Bob, that link proved quite informative.

It also states:

"When a station is transmitting under the privileges afforded by an amateur
service license granted by the Government of Canada or an amateur service
license granted by any other country with which the United States has a
multilateral or bilateral agreement, an indicator consisting of the
appropriate letter-numeral designating the station location must be included
in the station identification announcement. This indicator must be separated
from the assigned call sign by the slant mark (/) or any suitable word that
denotes the slant mark."

So I guess I don't need to state 'portable' unless I really am portable.
Question is, how do US amateurs say '/', is it "slant", "stroke" or "slash"
???


I've heard all three used, but usually "stroke". Although the FCC site
indicates that the suffix goes after your call, I doubt you would get
into trouble putting it first, as that has become an international
standard recently (CEPT regulations specify this, as well as the use of
the word "stroke").

I see where CEPT no longer lists two classes of privileges (except for
a few countries), so you would probably be legal under CEPT as well as
under the reciprocal agreement.

Where in 7-land are you located? I am near Seattle.

73, Bob N7XY
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Old February 16th 05, 11:37 PM
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I'd try to avoid using the word 'portable' if I were you. I've heard the
'Portable 5' suffix used a few times by overseas hams in the US - these
sometimes get put on the cluster as XXXX/P5 and set all the cluster alarms
off . I think your safest bet is to use /W7.

(P5 is the prefix for North Korea)


"G7TMG" wrote in message
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Apologies if this is a bit off-topic, but figured you guys might know
this.

My call is G7TMG and I now live permanently in the US but haven't got
around
to taking the US test yet and want to get on the air using my UK call.

I believe I should use W7/G7TMG (or is it G7TMG/W7?) but do I need to
state
the "/" as portable if I live here full time?
Also, I presume that my UK HF privileges are no good in the US due to no
morse test???

Any info appreciated.

Sholto.






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Old February 17th 05, 12:36 AM
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"Bob Nielsen" wrote in message
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On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 10:16:13 -0800, G7TMG wrote:
Thanks Bob, that link proved quite informative.

snip



I've heard all three used, but usually "stroke". Although the FCC site
indicates that the suffix goes after your call, I doubt you would get
into trouble putting it first, as that has become an international
standard recently (CEPT regulations specify this, as well as the use of
the word "stroke").

I see where CEPT no longer lists two classes of privileges (except for
a few countries), so you would probably be legal under CEPT as well as
under the reciprocal agreement.

Where in 7-land are you located? I am near Seattle.

73, Bob N7XY


I found this from the ARRL site
(http://www.arrl.org/FandES/field/reg...ns/io/#foreign)

"No additional permit is required -- simply bring your original license,
issued by your home country when you visit the US; and be sure to identify
your station while operating by the US call district identifier (e.g.,
followed by your non-US call sign.W3/G1ABC)."

So the ARRL say it should be a prefix and the FCC say a suffix??? sounds
like these guys need to talk to each other...

Seattle is a very nice city, we've been there a few times. The XYL loves
Pike St. Market.
QTH is Coeur d'Alene, ID. Love living here too.

Used to live in the Lake District, UK and that is a great destination if you
ever make it to "Blighty".

Here's another quandry I find myself in:

I can't operate on amateur HF bands here without a CW test but I can operate
HF on marine frequencies - I also hold the GMDSS general licence for which I
didn't have to pass a CW test and is valid anywhere in the world! LOL make
sense of that one.


73's de G7TMG.


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Old February 17th 05, 01:11 AM
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I see where CEPT no longer lists two classes of privileges (except for
a few countries), so you would probably be legal under CEPT as well as
under the reciprocal agreement.

Where in 7-land are you located? I am near Seattle.

73, Bob N7XY




I guess you're right about the CEPT privileges now they've dropped the 2
classes.

From the FCC:

"Operator privileges are those authorized by the alien's government, but do
not exceed those of the FCC Amateur Extra Class operator. "

I interpret this as being legal to operate on HF as long as I remain an
alien rather that a citizen!

Sholto, G7TMG


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Old February 17th 05, 01:18 AM
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G7TMG wrote:

QTH is Coeur d'Alene, ID. Love living here too.


That's not /7.

Peter Lemken
DF5JT
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Old February 17th 05, 02:07 AM
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"Peter Lemken" wrote in message
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G7TMG wrote:

QTH is Coeur d'Alene, ID. Love living here too.


That's not /7.

Peter Lemken
DF5JT
Berlin

--
Games vs. Reality on Slashdot:
"For me its America's Army. I'm watching the nightly news of Marines

clearing
houses in Fallujah and thinking to myself "Why don't they RPG that house
first, then throw in flash bangs and frag nades before kicking that door

in?""


I hope I don't mess up your WAS award but ID (Idaho) is definitely region 7
http://www.qsl.net/aa0ni/callareas.html

G7TMG


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Old February 17th 05, 03:30 AM
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Bob Nielsen said :


See http://wireless.fcc.gov/services/amateur/about/recoperating.html
for full information.

Among other things, this says:

Reciprocal operating authority is valid until the expiration date on the
alien's amateur service license. Reciprocal operation in a place where the
Amateur Radio Service is regulated by the FCC must comply with Part 97 of
the FCC's Rules and the International Telecommunication Union Radio
Regulations. Operator privileges are those authorized by the alien's
government, but do not exceed those of the FCC Amateur Extra Class operator.

Bob, N7XY


Also note that if you are ever granted citizenship, you will no longer
be allowed to use your foreign call, and will be required to take the
FCC's exams.

I'm a Canadian residing in the US, and when I moved down my call was
VE3THX/W2 (I recall reading that the W2 bit had to be at the end), but
I elected to get a US call since I will be living here permanently and
expect to get citizenship this year.

73 de Peter, W2IRT
(ex-AB2NZ, VE3THX)

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