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Old October 1st 03, 08:58 PM
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On 1 Oct 2003 16:38:48 GMT, Peter Lemken wrote:
Hank Oredson wrote:

I want operations on records, not fields.
Things like "tqsl_getLocationDXCCEntity" are simply too low level.


Then an API is not what you are looking for, methinks.

Peter Lemken
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- been following this thread...

- the ultimate documentation for an application?


There is NO such application.

- the source code!


Pretty hard to look at source code that does not exist.

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Old October 2nd 03, 08:38 AM
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Hank,

When installing TQSL-108.EXE you get TQSLLIB.DLL. I didn't analyze yet but I
guess the API calls could be made through that DLL.

Then you got TQSLLIB-1.3.TAR.GZ which includes a lot of C++ source code and
documentation. Maybe it could be useable.

I did not yet really have time to look through it but I think it would a
starting point for available functions and descriptions.

73


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Old October 2nd 03, 08:38 AM
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Hank,

When installing TQSL-108.EXE you get TQSLLIB.DLL. I didn't analyze yet but I
guess the API calls could be made through that DLL.

Then you got TQSLLIB-1.3.TAR.GZ which includes a lot of C++ source code and
documentation. Maybe it could be useable.

I did not yet really have time to look through it but I think it would a
starting point for available functions and descriptions.

73


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Old October 3rd 03, 03:48 AM
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"ranger" wrote in message
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Hank,

When installing TQSL-108.EXE you get TQSLLIB.DLL. I didn't analyze yet but I
guess the API calls could be made through that DLL.

Then you got TQSLLIB-1.3.TAR.GZ which includes a lot of C++ source code and
documentation. Maybe it could be useable.

I did not yet really have time to look through it but I think it would a
starting point for available functions and descriptions.



See my other posts.
I have those things.
There is no API to the database.

--

... Hank

Hank: http://horedson.home.att.net
W0RLI: http://w0rli.home.att.net


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Old October 3rd 03, 03:48 AM
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"ranger" wrote in message
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Hank,

When installing TQSL-108.EXE you get TQSLLIB.DLL. I didn't analyze yet but I
guess the API calls could be made through that DLL.

Then you got TQSLLIB-1.3.TAR.GZ which includes a lot of C++ source code and
documentation. Maybe it could be useable.

I did not yet really have time to look through it but I think it would a
starting point for available functions and descriptions.



See my other posts.
I have those things.
There is no API to the database.

--

... Hank

Hank: http://horedson.home.att.net
W0RLI: http://w0rli.home.att.net




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Old October 3rd 03, 11:47 AM
Peter Lemken
 
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Hank Oredson wrote:

"ranger" wrote in message
...
Hank,

When installing TQSL-108.EXE you get TQSLLIB.DLL. I didn't analyze yet but I
guess the API calls could be made through that DLL.

Then you got TQSLLIB-1.3.TAR.GZ which includes a lot of C++ source code and
documentation. Maybe it could be useable.

I did not yet really have time to look through it but I think it would a
starting point for available functions and descriptions.



See my other posts.
I have those things.
There is no API to the database.


Yes, there is, Hank. API stands for "Advanced Programming Interface" and it
describes the programming interface to a lower layer that you can use.

The README states "API documentation can be found in the doxygen directory."

peter@sassicaia tqsllib $ tar tzf /home/downloads/src/tqsllib-1.3.tar.gz |grep doxygen
tqsllib/doxygen/html/
tqsllib/doxygen/html/doxygen.gif
tqsllib/doxygen/html/tqsllib.css
tqsllib/doxygen/html/index.html
tqsllib/doxygen/html/files.html
tqsllib/doxygen/html/adif_8h-source.html
tqsllib/doxygen/html/cabrillo_8h-source.html
tqsllib/doxygen/html/tqslconvert_8h-source.html
tqsllib/doxygen/html/tqslerrno_8h-source.html
tqsllib/doxygen/html/tqsllib-doc_8h-source.html
tqsllib/doxygen/html/tqsllib_8h-source.html
tqsllib/doxygen/html/tqslconvert_8h.html
tqsllib/doxygen/html/tqslerrno_8h.html
tqsllib/doxygen/html/tqsllib_8h.html
tqsllib/doxygen/html/annotated.html
tqsllib/doxygen/html/structtqsl__adifFieldDefinitions.html
tqsllib/doxygen/html/structtqsl__adifFieldDefinitions-members.html
tqsllib/doxygen/html/structtqsl__adifFieldResults.html
tqsllib/doxygen/html/structtqsl__adifFieldResults-members.html
tqsllib/doxygen/html/structtqsl__cabrilloField.html
tqsllib/doxygen/html/structtqsl__cabrilloField-members.html
tqsllib/doxygen/html/structtqsl__cert__req__st.html
tqsllib/doxygen/html/structtqsl__cert__req__st-members.html
tqsllib/doxygen/html/structtQSL__Date.html
tqsllib/doxygen/html/structtQSL__Date-members.html
tqsllib/doxygen/html/structtqsl__provider__st.html
tqsllib/doxygen/html/structtqsl__provider__st-members.html
tqsllib/doxygen/html/structTQSL__QSO__RECORD.html
tqsllib/doxygen/html/structTQSL__QSO__RECORD-members.html
tqsllib/doxygen/html/structtQSL__Time.html
tqsllib/doxygen/html/structtQSL__Time-members.html
tqsllib/doxygen/html/group__Util.html
tqsllib/doxygen/html/group__CertStuff.html
tqsllib/doxygen/html/group__Sign.html
tqsllib/doxygen/html/group__Data.html
tqsllib/doxygen/html/group__ADIF.html
tqsllib/doxygen/html/group__Cabrillo.html
tqsllib/doxygen/html/group__Convert.html
tqsllib/doxygen/html/modules.html
tqsllib/doxygen/html/globals.html
peter@sassicaia tqsllib

The API is right there, it's documented, it's usable.

Obviously, what you are looking for is an _application_ that performs
certain tasks to your liking. That's not what an API does, you need to write
an application that makes use of the API.

Apart from that: This is an Open Source project, so you can contribute your
patches and express dissatisfaction with what's currently available.
However, please refrain from telling us "There is no API". There is, Hank,
and I told you where it is about a week ago.

Peter Lemken
DF5JT
Berlin

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Old October 3rd 03, 11:47 AM
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Hank Oredson wrote:

"ranger" wrote in message
...
Hank,

When installing TQSL-108.EXE you get TQSLLIB.DLL. I didn't analyze yet but I
guess the API calls could be made through that DLL.

Then you got TQSLLIB-1.3.TAR.GZ which includes a lot of C++ source code and
documentation. Maybe it could be useable.

I did not yet really have time to look through it but I think it would a
starting point for available functions and descriptions.



See my other posts.
I have those things.
There is no API to the database.


Yes, there is, Hank. API stands for "Advanced Programming Interface" and it
describes the programming interface to a lower layer that you can use.

The README states "API documentation can be found in the doxygen directory."

peter@sassicaia tqsllib $ tar tzf /home/downloads/src/tqsllib-1.3.tar.gz |grep doxygen
tqsllib/doxygen/html/
tqsllib/doxygen/html/doxygen.gif
tqsllib/doxygen/html/tqsllib.css
tqsllib/doxygen/html/index.html
tqsllib/doxygen/html/files.html
tqsllib/doxygen/html/adif_8h-source.html
tqsllib/doxygen/html/cabrillo_8h-source.html
tqsllib/doxygen/html/tqslconvert_8h-source.html
tqsllib/doxygen/html/tqslerrno_8h-source.html
tqsllib/doxygen/html/tqsllib-doc_8h-source.html
tqsllib/doxygen/html/tqsllib_8h-source.html
tqsllib/doxygen/html/tqslconvert_8h.html
tqsllib/doxygen/html/tqslerrno_8h.html
tqsllib/doxygen/html/tqsllib_8h.html
tqsllib/doxygen/html/annotated.html
tqsllib/doxygen/html/structtqsl__adifFieldDefinitions.html
tqsllib/doxygen/html/structtqsl__adifFieldDefinitions-members.html
tqsllib/doxygen/html/structtqsl__adifFieldResults.html
tqsllib/doxygen/html/structtqsl__adifFieldResults-members.html
tqsllib/doxygen/html/structtqsl__cabrilloField.html
tqsllib/doxygen/html/structtqsl__cabrilloField-members.html
tqsllib/doxygen/html/structtqsl__cert__req__st.html
tqsllib/doxygen/html/structtqsl__cert__req__st-members.html
tqsllib/doxygen/html/structtQSL__Date.html
tqsllib/doxygen/html/structtQSL__Date-members.html
tqsllib/doxygen/html/structtqsl__provider__st.html
tqsllib/doxygen/html/structtqsl__provider__st-members.html
tqsllib/doxygen/html/structTQSL__QSO__RECORD.html
tqsllib/doxygen/html/structTQSL__QSO__RECORD-members.html
tqsllib/doxygen/html/structtQSL__Time.html
tqsllib/doxygen/html/structtQSL__Time-members.html
tqsllib/doxygen/html/group__Util.html
tqsllib/doxygen/html/group__CertStuff.html
tqsllib/doxygen/html/group__Sign.html
tqsllib/doxygen/html/group__Data.html
tqsllib/doxygen/html/group__ADIF.html
tqsllib/doxygen/html/group__Cabrillo.html
tqsllib/doxygen/html/group__Convert.html
tqsllib/doxygen/html/modules.html
tqsllib/doxygen/html/globals.html
peter@sassicaia tqsllib

The API is right there, it's documented, it's usable.

Obviously, what you are looking for is an _application_ that performs
certain tasks to your liking. That's not what an API does, you need to write
an application that makes use of the API.

Apart from that: This is an Open Source project, so you can contribute your
patches and express dissatisfaction with what's currently available.
However, please refrain from telling us "There is no API". There is, Hank,
and I told you where it is about a week ago.

Peter Lemken
DF5JT
Berlin

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Old October 4th 03, 12:01 AM
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"Peter Lemken" wrote in message
...
Hank Oredson wrote:

"ranger" wrote in message
...
Hank,

When installing TQSL-108.EXE you get TQSLLIB.DLL. I didn't analyze yet

but I
guess the API calls could be made through that DLL.

Then you got TQSLLIB-1.3.TAR.GZ which includes a lot of C++ source code

and
documentation. Maybe it could be useable.

I did not yet really have time to look through it but I think it would a
starting point for available functions and descriptions.



See my other posts.
I have those things.
There is no API to the database.


Yes, there is, Hank. API stands for "Advanced Programming Interface" and it
describes the programming interface to a lower layer that you can use.


"Application programming interface."
"... TO THE DATABASE."

The API is right there, it's documented, it's usable.


There is NO API TO THE DATABASE.
This should be very very simple to understand.
What you show me is a set of library calls for manipulating
LOCAL DATA and LOCAL FILES. This is not of interest.

Obviously, what you are looking for is an _application_ that performs
certain tasks to your liking. That's not what an API does, you need to write
an application that makes use of the API.


I am not looking for an application.
I WRITE APPLICATIONS.
To do this, I NEED THE SPECIFICATION.
IF I have the specification ... see below ...

Apart from that: This is an Open Source project, so you can contribute your
patches and express dissatisfaction with what's currently available.


There is NOTHING available.
There is NO SPECIFICATION of HOW TO ACCESS THE DATABASE.
None, zero, nichts, nada.
Were there such a specification, I would CREATE a library of
functions and gladly donate it to the project. Then there would
be an API to the DATABASE, and everyone could use it.

Please try very very hard to understand what I have written.
LotW is a CENTRALIZED DATABASE of QSO data.
I wish to access it.
From applications I will write.

For eQSL, I can do these things.
There is an API, it is documented.

LotW is still in it's baby steps, perhaps like a very early prototype.

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"Peter Lemken" wrote in message
...
Hank Oredson wrote:

"ranger" wrote in message
...
Hank,

When installing TQSL-108.EXE you get TQSLLIB.DLL. I didn't analyze yet

but I
guess the API calls could be made through that DLL.

Then you got TQSLLIB-1.3.TAR.GZ which includes a lot of C++ source code

and
documentation. Maybe it could be useable.

I did not yet really have time to look through it but I think it would a
starting point for available functions and descriptions.



See my other posts.
I have those things.
There is no API to the database.


Yes, there is, Hank. API stands for "Advanced Programming Interface" and it
describes the programming interface to a lower layer that you can use.


"Application programming interface."
"... TO THE DATABASE."

The API is right there, it's documented, it's usable.


There is NO API TO THE DATABASE.
This should be very very simple to understand.
What you show me is a set of library calls for manipulating
LOCAL DATA and LOCAL FILES. This is not of interest.

Obviously, what you are looking for is an _application_ that performs
certain tasks to your liking. That's not what an API does, you need to write
an application that makes use of the API.


I am not looking for an application.
I WRITE APPLICATIONS.
To do this, I NEED THE SPECIFICATION.
IF I have the specification ... see below ...

Apart from that: This is an Open Source project, so you can contribute your
patches and express dissatisfaction with what's currently available.


There is NOTHING available.
There is NO SPECIFICATION of HOW TO ACCESS THE DATABASE.
None, zero, nichts, nada.
Were there such a specification, I would CREATE a library of
functions and gladly donate it to the project. Then there would
be an API to the DATABASE, and everyone could use it.

Please try very very hard to understand what I have written.
LotW is a CENTRALIZED DATABASE of QSO data.
I wish to access it.
From applications I will write.

For eQSL, I can do these things.
There is an API, it is documented.

LotW is still in it's baby steps, perhaps like a very early prototype.

--

... Hank

Hank: http://horedson.home.att.net
W0RLI: http://w0rli.home.att.net


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Old October 4th 03, 01:35 AM
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Hank Oredson wrote:

"Peter Lemken" wrote in message

Yes, there is, Hank. API stands for "Advanced Programming Interface" and it
describes the programming interface to a lower layer that you can use.


"Application programming interface."
"... TO THE DATABASE."


The Central Database of the arrl lotw project?

The API is right there, it's documented, it's usable.


There is NO API TO THE DATABASE.


I am still not sure you are talking about the database I had in mind.

This should be very very simple to understand.
What you show me is a set of library calls for manipulating
LOCAL DATA and LOCAL FILES. This is not of interest.


Yes, it is, at least for log programmers. Prepare the data in an accepted
form, sign it digitally with your unique key and hold personal
responsibility for the integrity of the data. And that is done locally by a
log program. Am I still with you?

Obviously, what you are looking for is an _application_ that performs
certain tasks to your liking. That's not what an API does, you need to write
an application that makes use of the API.


I am not looking for an application.
I WRITE APPLICATIONS.


What kind of applications? Logbooks?

To do this, I NEED THE SPECIFICATION.
IF I have the specification ... see below ...

Apart from that: This is an Open Source project, so you can contribute your
patches and express dissatisfaction with what's currently available.


There is NOTHING available.
There is NO SPECIFICATION of HOW TO ACCESS THE DATABASE.
None, zero, nichts, nada.
Were there such a specification, I would CREATE a library of
functions and gladly donate it to the project. Then there would
be an API to the DATABASE, and everyone could use it.

Please try very very hard to understand what I have written.
LotW is a CENTRALIZED DATABASE of QSO data.
I wish to access it.
From applications I will write.


What you want is restricted remote access to another machine in order to
manipulate data (QSO-records). Have I understood you correctly?

For eQSL, I can do these things.
There is an API, it is documented.

LotW is still in it's baby steps, perhaps like a very early prototype.


I'm gonna refer to that once you tell me whether I have understood you
correctly about the central database of the ARRL.

Peter Lemken
DF5JT
Berlin

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