Zoran Brlecic said :

Peter Lemken wrote:

I found that the log program doubled my contacts. Still, valuable to
know that one is somewhere in the log. Great idea.


Really? I find online logs the worst idea ever.

Must disagree, Peter. On-line logs should dramatically cut the number of
"insurance" QSOs, thus reducing the pile-ups and giving more people a
chance.

I will chime up with support for Zoran here. I popped 3B9C on 10 and
12 SSB last week and frankly, it was ESP at best. I waited to check
the logs to see whether or not my Q's were in fact in there, and I saw
that they were. I won't be wasting my time with insurance Qs on those
bands, nor will anybody need to step over my signal to get through on
10/12 again.


73 de Peter, W2IRT
(ex-AB2NZ, VE3THX)

Please reply to Double-you Two Eye Are Tee at Arrl.net

Back to the original statement.
The oneline log shows all my QSO's with the addition of a dupe contact on 12
meter CW.There is a note on the web page that says they are aware of dupe
qsos showing up and they are trying to correct it.For the QSO's I made,the
log is accurate.
Joe
W7KQU

Back to the original statement.
The oneline log shows all my QSO's with the addition of a dupe contact on 12
meter CW.There is a note on the web page that says they are aware of dupe
qsos showing up and they are trying to correct it.For the QSO's I made,the
log is accurate.
Joe
W7KQU

Peter Dougherty wrote:
Zoran Brlecic said :

Peter Lemken wrote:

I found that the log program doubled my contacts. Still, valuable to
know that one is somewhere in the log. Great idea.


Really? I find online logs the worst idea ever.

Must disagree, Peter. On-line logs should dramatically cut the number of
"insurance" QSOs, thus reducing the pile-ups and giving more people a
chance.

I will chime up with support for Zoran here.

And I still disagree. Let people make their insurance QSO, but they will
still have to fight their way through the pile up and use their operating
skills to do so. And if you don't know that you worked a station, well, you
didn't work it anyway, no matter what the online log says.

On the negative side (and I believe that one outweighs the possible positive
elements of online logs during an expedition) we have a vast number of
people yelling in a pile up and never listening, because they hope to be in
the log anyway. We see constant requests for URLs on the cluster, we have
people loudly complaining about incomplete logs and we have an attitude that
asks for online logs, no matter how remote the place is and how big the
expedition is.

Online logs are the last nails into the coffin of DXing by skill.

Peter Lemken
DF5JT
Berlin

--
Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in
a pretty and well-preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly
used up, totally worn out and loudly proclaiming, 'Wow, what a ride!'

Peter Dougherty wrote:
Zoran Brlecic said :

Peter Lemken wrote:

I found that the log program doubled my contacts. Still, valuable to
know that one is somewhere in the log. Great idea.


Really? I find online logs the worst idea ever.

Must disagree, Peter. On-line logs should dramatically cut the number of
"insurance" QSOs, thus reducing the pile-ups and giving more people a
chance.

I will chime up with support for Zoran here.

And I still disagree. Let people make their insurance QSO, but they will
still have to fight their way through the pile up and use their operating
skills to do so. And if you don't know that you worked a station, well, you
didn't work it anyway, no matter what the online log says.

On the negative side (and I believe that one outweighs the possible positive
elements of online logs during an expedition) we have a vast number of
people yelling in a pile up and never listening, because they hope to be in
the log anyway. We see constant requests for URLs on the cluster, we have
people loudly complaining about incomplete logs and we have an attitude that
asks for online logs, no matter how remote the place is and how big the
expedition is.

Online logs are the last nails into the coffin of DXing by skill.

Peter Lemken
DF5JT
Berlin

--
Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in
a pretty and well-preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly
used up, totally worn out and loudly proclaiming, 'Wow, what a ride!'