I have finally had enough of waiting forever for the FCC to get rid of
their kill-a-fly-with-a-sledgehammer approach to HF amp regulation, so
that I can get an amp for legal use with my FT-817.

Have any of you had any problems getting a Tokyo Hy-Power QRP amplifier
past the border watchdogs and into the USA?

I try to be law-abiding but I'm tired of the FCC's inability to enforce
the rules against the few, so they penalize everybody. I'd just like to
get a reasonable power level out of the FT-817, for times when 5W isn't
enough, and for legal use on legal ham bands with my legal Extra-class
license.

Thanks...

"C. J. Clegg" wrote in message
news

I have finally had enough of waiting forever for the FCC to get rid of
their kill-a-fly-with-a-sledgehammer approach to HF amp regulation, so
that I can get an amp for legal use with my FT-817.

Have any of you had any problems getting a Tokyo Hy-Power QRP amplifier
past the border watchdogs and into the USA?

I try to be law-abiding but I'm tired of the FCC's inability to enforce
the rules against the few, so they penalize everybody. I'd just like to
get a reasonable power level out of the FT-817, for times when 5W isn't
enough, and for legal use on legal ham bands with my legal Extra-class
license.

Thanks...


The big issue is that unless you have the technical skills for repair (Extra
Class amateur and the GROL no longer have that meaning) -- you have to send
the Tokyo-HyPower ampfliers back to Japan for repair / service.
I have seen at least 5 units over past 2 years that the poor OM, complains
he does not have the $$ to send it back to Japan for repair --
so he begs me for a few $$ to take it or repair it or scrap it for parts so
he can then buy an MFJ or something else -- he can fix himself for get fixed
in USA.

Comments have been made by Tokyo HyPower earlier this year that they will
have a US distributor in near future.
FCC's recent Report and Order (R&O) in WT Docket 04-140 seems to move in
this same direction (HF amp regulation relaxation) -
BUT not for "dirty" RF amplifiers (such as the RM Italy products and Palomar
clones on eBay).

BTW, the HF Projects group has been building 50 watt "shoes" for the QRP
transceivers for a few years --
and now has the HF SuperPacker Pro 100W Amplifier 7x5.5x3 inch, 3 lb
footprint
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/hfprojects/

Why don;t you "get on the US build band wagon" of building your own
amplifier (with your fellow US amateurs in a group) --
then you can actually repair that amplifier -- when you have a problem --
and save some $$$ and time
serial number 2 was just finished by a builder on October 2nd.
http://www.hfprojects.com/hfprojects/

gb

"C. J. Clegg" wrote in message
news

I have finally had enough of waiting forever for the FCC to get rid of
their kill-a-fly-with-a-sledgehammer approach to HF amp regulation, so
that I can get an amp for legal use with my FT-817.

Have any of you had any problems getting a Tokyo Hy-Power QRP amplifier
past the border watchdogs and into the USA?

I try to be law-abiding but I'm tired of the FCC's inability to enforce
the rules against the few, so they penalize everybody. I'd just like to
get a reasonable power level out of the FT-817, for times when 5W isn't
enough, and for legal use on legal ham bands with my legal Extra-class
license.

Thanks...


Better yet, here is the actual posting from the serial number 2 builder:

I was a co-author on the original HF SuperPacker article in Dec 2005 QST
(along with Jonathan, WA3WDK). Jonathan and I consulted with Virgil as he
designed the SuperPacker Pro. I worked on one of the prototypes and did some
debugging of serial number 1.

Thus, it is not a surprise that I was able to successfully build the
SuperPacker Pro. On the other hand, this project required no debugging. It
worked for me the first time I powered it up.

I am happy to answer any questions about the build. If you post to this
group also send me a copy by email. Find my email address on QRZ.com.

I hope everyone who builds the SuperPacker Pro has as much fun as I did. For
sure, you will have a great little 100 watt (13 db gain) amp!

Andy Mitz WA3LTJ

Try buying a rig with 50 or more watts output. that's the USA law!

C. J. Clegg wrote:

I have finally had enough of waiting forever for the FCC to get rid of
their kill-a-fly-with-a-sledgehammer approach to HF amp regulation, so
that I can get an amp for legal use with my FT-817.

Have any of you had any problems getting a Tokyo Hy-Power QRP amplifier
past the border watchdogs and into the USA?

I try to be law-abiding but I'm tired of the FCC's inability to enforce
the rules against the few, so they penalize everybody. I'd just like to
get a reasonable power level out of the FT-817, for times when 5W isn't
enough, and for legal use on legal ham bands with my legal Extra-class
license.

Thanks...

HRO is now carying the new Tokyo Hight Power HL-1.5k fx and will be able to
deliver the end of November

1. www.hamradio.com

--

73,Charlie-AD5TH
www.ad5th.com


"C. J. Clegg" wrote in message
news

I have finally had enough of waiting forever for the FCC to get rid of
their kill-a-fly-with-a-sledgehammer approach to HF amp regulation, so
that I can get an amp for legal use with my FT-817.

Have any of you had any problems getting a Tokyo Hy-Power QRP amplifier
past the border watchdogs and into the USA?

I try to be law-abiding but I'm tired of the FCC's inability to enforce
the rules against the few, so they penalize everybody. I'd just like to
get a reasonable power level out of the FT-817, for times when 5W isn't
enough, and for legal use on legal ham bands with my legal Extra-class
license.

Thanks...

"Charlie" wrote in message
...
HRO is now carrying the new Tokyo HyPower HL-1.5k and will be able to
deliver the end of November and begin support.

1. www.hamradio.com
--
73,Charlie-AD5TH
www.ad5th.com


Charlie -

Thanks for the HRO link - I did not see that they have "pre-announced" this
change on their web site.

Based on the dates on their web site the sales/support will likely coincide
with Tokyo HyPower being granted a FCC certification under Part 2 equipment
authorization standards.

FCC R&O WT Docket 04-140 ("Omnibus" Amateur Radio proceeding), adopted on
October 4, 2006 and released on October 10, 2006
http://www.arrl.org/announce/regulat...4-140/faq.html
Q. What were the changes eliminating certain restrictions on equipment
manufacturers?

A. Simply put, the guidelines on external RF amplifiers were clarified. They
must still be granted a certification under Part 2 equipment authorization
standards and may not be easily modifiable to non-amateur service use. They
can not exhibit the ability to amplify in the 26 - 28 MHz frequency range.
The FCC also decided not to include a definition of kits as they apply to RF
amplifiers.

Changes to the 75 / 80 meter band are receiving the most "on-air" comments
!!
New band chart -- as listed in FCC R&O, subject to clarification (typos in
FCC R&O -- noted by many observers !!! ).
http://www.arrl.org/announce/regulat...nds3_color.pdf


w9gb

On a related note I emailed THP for a quote on the new HL-500V 500W solid
satate 2M amp I was considering.
They want $2300 + $250 shipping..a little pricey for this country boy so I
ordered a TE 1454 from Burghardt instead and Astron RS70M for a total of
around $780

--

73,Charlie-AD5TH
www.ad5th.com


"w9gb" wrote in message
. ..
"Charlie" wrote in message
...
HRO is now carrying the new Tokyo HyPower HL-1.5k and will be able to
deliver the end of November and begin support.

1. www.hamradio.com
--
73,Charlie-AD5TH
www.ad5th.com


Charlie -

Thanks for the HRO link - I did not see that they have "pre-announced"
this change on their web site.

Based on the dates on their web site the sales/support will likely
coincide with Tokyo HyPower being granted a FCC certification under Part 2
equipment authorization standards.

FCC R&O WT Docket 04-140 ("Omnibus" Amateur Radio proceeding), adopted on
October 4, 2006 and released on October 10, 2006
http://www.arrl.org/announce/regulat...4-140/faq.html
Q. What were the changes eliminating certain restrictions on equipment
manufacturers?

A. Simply put, the guidelines on external RF amplifiers were clarified.
They must still be granted a certification under Part 2 equipment
authorization standards and may not be easily modifiable to non-amateur
service use. They can not exhibit the ability to amplify in the 26 - 28
MHz frequency range. The FCC also decided not to include a definition of
kits as they apply to RF amplifiers.

Changes to the 75 / 80 meter band are receiving the most "on-air" comments
!!
New band chart -- as listed in FCC R&O, subject to clarification (typos in
FCC R&O -- noted by many observers !!! ).
http://www.arrl.org/announce/regulat...nds3_color.pdf


w9gb

"C. J. Clegg" wrote in message
news

I have finally had enough of waiting forever for the FCC to get rid of
their kill-a-fly-with-a-sledgehammer approach to HF amp regulation, so
that I can get an amp for legal use with my FT-817.

Have any of you had any problems getting a Tokyo Hy-Power QRP amplifier
past the border watchdogs and into the USA?

I try to be law-abiding but I'm tired of the FCC's inability to enforce
the rules against the few, so they penalize everybody. I'd just like to
get a reasonable power level out of the FT-817, for times when 5W isn't
enough, and for legal use on legal ham bands with my legal Extra-class
license.

Thanks...


FT-817 web pages:

KA7OEI
http://www.ussc.com/~turner/ft817pg.shtml

Bob Wolpert, K6XX
http://www.k6xx.com/ft817/ft817.html

On Sat, 28 Oct 2006 16:46:47 -0500, Charlie wrote:

HRO is now carying the new Tokyo Hight Power HL-1.5k fx and will be able to
deliver the end of November

Good afternoon, Charlie.

Yeah, I saw that. Nice amp. Unfortunately way overkill for the FT-817,
and anyway I need something that can run from 13.8 volts.

HRO still won't be carrying the THP low-drive amps, until the FCC wakes up
and realizes what a dumb rule that is...

On Sat, 28 Oct 2006 15:24:56 -0400, Dave wrote:

Try buying a rig with 50 or more watts output. that's the USA law!

Thanks, I don't know why I didn't think of that. sigh

The rig is what it is, and the law is stupid and serves no purpose.

But, thanks for the advice... :-)