Just got word on the BBC last nite that CW is now non exitant
in the US amaterur system. For info BBC takes over from PRI at
1000z each night except Sat/Sun at 1000Z and their second item
they cent CQ CQ CQ several times then notified the world that
CW is no longer allowed on the American Amateur bands at all.
Listen in low end of the FM radio band and its the 2nd stn
from the bottom which is (public radio) but changes to
BBC at exactly 1000z and carries them every night except
Sat and Sun.
Joe KH6JF

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* WW2 Vet since Sep 1940 to just After VJ day. US Signal Corps AACS *
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Nah not really - CW is live and well -- just check the CW portion of the
bands.
Remember lots of Hams don't speak each others language - but with CW and
Q-Signals they can communicate the essentials

Also thousands of Hams are active during CW contests making hundreds and
thousands of contacts

You really meant the requirement to pass a CW test to obtain a license is
being phased out

This by no means will eliminate CW as a mode of Ham operation.

Dit Dit -- CL


"Joseph Fenn" wrote in message
va.net...
Just got word on the BBC last nite that CW is now non exitant
in the US amaterur system. For info BBC takes over from PRI at
1000z each night except Sat/Sun at 1000Z and their second item
they cent CQ CQ CQ several times then notified the world that
CW is no longer allowed on the American Amateur bands at all.
Listen in low end of the FM radio band and its the 2nd stn
from the bottom which is (public radio) but changes to BBC at exactly
1000z and carries them every night except
Sat and Sun.
Joe KH6JF

************************************************** ************************
* Ham since 1937 HiSchool Sophomore ex W9ZUU, KP4EX, W4FAG, KH6ARG KH6JF *
* WW2 Vet since Sep 1940 to just After VJ day. US Signal Corps AACS *
************************************************** ************************

Just got word on the BBC last nite that CW is now non exitant
in the US amaterur system.


You have not heard correctly. The FCC dropped the requirement,
but it is VERY MUCH legal to use on the amateur bands. I'm on every
day on all useable bands with CW and perfectly content using it.

Dave WB7AWK
20-WPM Extra (yeah, I'm bragging a bit)

Joseph Fenn wrote:
Just got word on the BBC last nite that CW is now non exitant
in the US amaterur system. For info BBC takes over from PRI at
1000z each night except Sat/Sun at 1000Z and their second item
they cent CQ CQ CQ several times then notified the world that
CW is no longer allowed on the American Amateur bands at all.
Listen in low end of the FM radio band and its the 2nd stn
from the bottom which is (public radio) but changes to BBC at exactly
1000z and carries them every night except
Sat and Sun.
Joe KH6JF

************************************************** ************************
* Ham since 1937 HiSchool Sophomore ex W9ZUU, KP4EX, W4FAG, KH6ARG KH6JF *
* WW2 Vet since Sep 1940 to just After VJ day. US Signal Corps AACS *
************************************************** ************************


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On Wed, 27 Dec 2006, Caveat Lector wrote:

Nah not really - CW is live and well -- just check the CW portion of the
bands.
Remember lots of Hams don't speak each others language - but with CW and
Q-Signals they can communicate the essentials

Also thousands of Hams are active during CW contests making hundreds and
thousands of contacts

You really meant the requirement to pass a CW test to obtain a license is
being phased out

This by no means will eliminate CW as a mode of Ham operation.

Dit Dit -- CL


"Joseph Fenn" wrote in message
va.net...
Just got word on the BBC last nite that CW is now non exitant
in the US amaterur system. For info BBC takes over from PRI at
1000z each night except Sat/Sun at 1000Z and their second item
they cent CQ CQ CQ several times then notified the world that
CW is no longer allowed on the American Amateur bands at all.
Listen in low end of the FM radio band and its the 2nd stn
from the bottom which is (public radio) but changes to BBC at exactly
1000z and carries them every night except
Sat and Sun.
Joe KH6JF

************************************************** ************************
* Ham since 1937 HiSchool Sophomore ex W9ZUU, KP4EX, W4FAG, KH6ARG KH6JF *
* WW2 Vet since Sep 1940 to just After VJ day. US Signal Corps AACS *
************************************************** ************************


If what you say is true then why would the BBC bcst that sample of
CQ CQ CQ in cw and then announce that cw is no longer avilable
to US hams ????
Joe

In article et,
Joseph Fenn wrote:

If what you say is true then why would the BBC bcst that sample of
CQ CQ CQ in cw and then announce that cw is no longer avilable
to US hams ????

Either the BBC was wrong (very wrong), or you misinterpreted what the
BBC said. Nobody has forbidden US hams to use CW.

You can find out the facts by surfing to any of a number of Web sites,
the "WWW.ARRL.ORG" site being the most obvious first choice, I think.

Take a look at the following band-plan chart, updated only two weeks
ago:

http://www.arrl.org/FandES/field/reg...ands_color.pdf

You'll see that CW is an authorized mode for U.S. hams in *every*
portion of *every* ham band, except for the USB-only 60-meter band.

Or, download the following:

http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_publi...C-06-178A1.pdf

which is the actual text of the FCC Report and Order.

Here's the situation as I understand it:

[1] In 2003, the WRC conference declared that member countries would
no longer be required by treaty to insist that hams be proficient
in Morse Code in order to transmit on frequencies below 30 MHz.
It would be up to each individual country government to decide
whether or not to require code proficiency.

[2] Quite a few countries quickly adopted rules changes, so that their
own hams could have HF privileges without having to prove that they
can use CW. In fact, Great Britain (home of the BBC) dropped the
CW requirement some time ago.

[3] After a great deal of discussion, the FCC has decided to follow
suit. In a month or two from now (probably), the rules change
will go into effect, and it'll be possible for US hams to
upgrade to General or Extra without having to pass a Morse Code
proficiency test.

[4] Nothing in the FCC rulings forbids the use of CW. Period.

[5] There are still many CW contacts, contests, and nets taking
place between US hams. CW remains one of the best available
modes for making contact under weak-signal conditions, and
is probably _the_ best such mode when you don't have computer
assistance available.

Now, there was a different FCC rules change recently... one
which was announced a few months ago, and actually took effect
back on the 16th of this month. This "omnibus" change made a
change in the band-plans for several of the HF bands. It had
the effect of increasing the portion of several HF bands in
which phone traffic can be carried, and reducing the portions of
those bands which is *reserved* for CW and other narrow-bandwidth
modes.

However, it's still legal to for US amateurs to use CW in the "phone"
portions of the band, although most refrain from doing so except under
emergency and other exceptional circumstances.

--
Dave Platt AE6EO
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I do _not_ wish to receive unsolicited commercial email, and I will
boycott any company which has the gall to send me such ads!

Joseph Fenn wrote:

On Wed, 27 Dec 2006, Caveat Lector wrote:

Nah not really - CW is live and well -- just check the CW portion of the
bands.
Remember lots of Hams don't speak each others language - but with CW and
Q-Signals they can communicate the essentials

Also thousands of Hams are active during CW contests making hundreds and
thousands of contacts

You really meant the requirement to pass a CW test to obtain a license
is
being phased out

This by no means will eliminate CW as a mode of Ham operation.

Dit Dit -- CL


Joseph Fenn wrote:
Just got word on the BBC last nite that CW is now non exitant
in the US amaterur system. For info BBC takes over from PRI at
1000z each night except Sat/Sun at 1000Z and their second item
they cent CQ CQ CQ several times then notified the world that
CW is no longer allowed on the American Amateur bands at all.
Listen in low end of the FM radio band and its the 2nd stn
from the bottom which is (public radio) but changes to BBC at exactly
1000z and carries them every night except
Sat and Sun.
Joe KH6JF


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* Ham since 1937 HiSchool Sophomore ex W9ZUU, KP4EX, W4FAG, KH6ARG
KH6JF *
* WW2 Vet since Sep 1940 to just After VJ day. US Signal Corps AACS
*

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If what you say is true then why would the BBC bcst that sample of
CQ CQ CQ in cw and then announce that cw is no longer avilable
to US hams ????
Joe

Hi Joe,

Because they are in error, or you misinterpreted what they said.
Reference: WT Docket #05-235
(http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_publi...C-06-178A1.pdf)

73,
Bryan WA7PRC

PS: cu on skn!

Not afcording to the BBC brpadcast few daus bacl. They say it is

finished in US.

Lets wait till Jan 16 or Jan17 and see what the follow up from
FCC says.
Joe

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* Ham since 1937 HiSchool Sophomore ex W9ZUU, KP4EX, W4FAG, KH6ARG KH6JF *
* WW2 Vet since Sep 1940 to just After VJ day. US Signal Corps AACS *
************************************************** ************************

In article et,
Joseph Fenn wrote:

Not afcording to the BBC brpadcast few daus bacl. They say it is
finished in US.

If you're accurately reporting what the BBC broadcast actually said,
then either the BBC announcer was completely wrong, or was being
excessively dramatic.

Lets wait till Jan 16 or Jan17 and see what the follow up from
FCC says.

Sure. And, I'll bet you credits to navy beans that they do nothing at
all to forbid CW.

They've already posted their "report and memorandum". They simply
have not yet *formally* published it in the Federal Register (which
they have to do in order to make it legally effective).

Go read it.

--
Dave Platt AE6EO
Hosting the Jade Warrior home page: http://www.radagast.org/jade-warrior
I do _not_ wish to receive unsolicited commercial email, and I will
boycott any company which has the gall to send me such ads!

There is one more rule pending. I think its due to come out
on Jan 16th or 175h of Jan. Lets see what that one has to say
about CW or NOT.
Joe


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* Ham since 1937 HiSchool Sophomore ex W9ZUU, KP4EX, W4FAG, KH6ARG KH6JF *
* WW2 Vet since Sep 1940 to just After VJ day. US Signal Corps AACS *
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