I WOULD LIKE TO CLARIFIED, THIS NEWS GROUP IS NOT FOR HAM MEMBER
ONLY............

AS WHAT I KNOW THIS NEWS GROUP IS A GROUP OF PEOPLE WHICH COME FROM ALL WALK
OF LIFE THAT CAN SHARE THEIR KNOWLEDGE AND EXPERIENCE.

BUT SOMEHOW OR RATHER, THERE IS PEOPLE WHO ARE VERY PROUD OF THEM SELF SUCH
AS MR JIM CHUMBLEY WHICH DO NOT WANT TO ASIST ME ON ANYTHING BUT RATHER TO
TURN ME DOWN CAUSE I AM NOT A HAM MEMBER YET.[Refer to my posting and
feedback from Mr. Jim Chumbley on 3rd January 2004]

ANYWAY TO ALL THE PEOPLE OUT THERE, I WILL SIT FOR MY EXAMINATION IN THIS
NEAR FUTURE, AND I DON'T THINK IF I HAVE ANY PROBLEM WITH THAT.

IF YOU THINK CAREFULLY, IF SOMEONE INTERESTED WITH HAM BUT CAN'T GET ANY
INFORMATION OR KNOWLEDGE FROM A FORUM, NEWS GROUP, CLUB OR FRIENDS ( IN
OTHER WORDS, HAM ARE SECRETIVE), DO YOU THINK HE OR SHE MIGHT BE A HAM LATER
ON?

ONE THING YOU MUST REMEMBER, A HAM MUST BE HELPFUL AND READY TO SERVE THE
PUBLIC IN ANY CASES WHICH HE MIGHT BE.
+ A LOT OF NEW FRIENDS AND CONTACT.

ANYWAY I FEEL THIS IS A VERY GOOD NEWS GROUP TO GAIN ALL THE KNOWLEDGE AND
EXPERIENCE.

Turn your caps off bozo


On Sun, 4 Jan 2004 03:59:51 +0800, "Mohd Nazry Bin Mustapa"
wrote:

I WOULD LIKE TO CLARIFIED, THIS NEWS GROUP IS NOT FOR HAM MEMBER
ONLY............

AS WHAT I KNOW THIS NEWS GROUP IS A GROUP OF PEOPLE WHICH COME FROM ALL WALK
OF LIFE THAT CAN SHARE THEIR KNOWLEDGE AND EXPERIENCE.

BUT SOMEHOW OR RATHER, THERE IS PEOPLE WHO ARE VERY PROUD OF THEM SELF SUCH
AS MR JIM CHUMBLEY WHICH DO NOT WANT TO ASIST ME ON ANYTHING BUT RATHER TO
TURN ME DOWN CAUSE I AM NOT A HAM MEMBER YET.[Refer to my posting and
feedback from Mr. Jim Chumbley on 3rd January 2004]

ANYWAY TO ALL THE PEOPLE OUT THERE, I WILL SIT FOR MY EXAMINATION IN THIS
NEAR FUTURE, AND I DON'T THINK IF I HAVE ANY PROBLEM WITH THAT.

IF YOU THINK CAREFULLY, IF SOMEONE INTERESTED WITH HAM BUT CAN'T GET ANY
INFORMATION OR KNOWLEDGE FROM A FORUM, NEWS GROUP, CLUB OR FRIENDS ( IN
OTHER WORDS, HAM ARE SECRETIVE), DO YOU THINK HE OR SHE MIGHT BE A HAM LATER
ON?

ONE THING YOU MUST REMEMBER, A HAM MUST BE HELPFUL AND READY TO SERVE THE
PUBLIC IN ANY CASES WHICH HE MIGHT BE.
+ A LOT OF NEW FRIENDS AND CONTACT.

ANYWAY I FEEL THIS IS A VERY GOOD NEWS GROUP TO GAIN ALL THE KNOWLEDGE AND
EXPERIENCE.

Turn your caps off bozo


On Sun, 4 Jan 2004 03:59:51 +0800, "Mohd Nazry Bin Mustapa"
wrote:

I WOULD LIKE TO CLARIFIED, THIS NEWS GROUP IS NOT FOR HAM MEMBER
ONLY............

AS WHAT I KNOW THIS NEWS GROUP IS A GROUP OF PEOPLE WHICH COME FROM ALL WALK
OF LIFE THAT CAN SHARE THEIR KNOWLEDGE AND EXPERIENCE.

BUT SOMEHOW OR RATHER, THERE IS PEOPLE WHO ARE VERY PROUD OF THEM SELF SUCH
AS MR JIM CHUMBLEY WHICH DO NOT WANT TO ASIST ME ON ANYTHING BUT RATHER TO
TURN ME DOWN CAUSE I AM NOT A HAM MEMBER YET.[Refer to my posting and
feedback from Mr. Jim Chumbley on 3rd January 2004]

ANYWAY TO ALL THE PEOPLE OUT THERE, I WILL SIT FOR MY EXAMINATION IN THIS
NEAR FUTURE, AND I DON'T THINK IF I HAVE ANY PROBLEM WITH THAT.

IF YOU THINK CAREFULLY, IF SOMEONE INTERESTED WITH HAM BUT CAN'T GET ANY
INFORMATION OR KNOWLEDGE FROM A FORUM, NEWS GROUP, CLUB OR FRIENDS ( IN
OTHER WORDS, HAM ARE SECRETIVE), DO YOU THINK HE OR SHE MIGHT BE A HAM LATER
ON?

ONE THING YOU MUST REMEMBER, A HAM MUST BE HELPFUL AND READY TO SERVE THE
PUBLIC IN ANY CASES WHICH HE MIGHT BE.
+ A LOT OF NEW FRIENDS AND CONTACT.

ANYWAY I FEEL THIS IS A VERY GOOD NEWS GROUP TO GAIN ALL THE KNOWLEDGE AND
EXPERIENCE.

Please don't shout. Unlock your "Caps Lock" key.

Thanks & 73

"Mohd Nazry Bin Mustapa" wrote in message
...
I WOULD LIKE TO CLARIFIED, THIS NEWS GROUP IS NOT FOR HAM MEMBER
ONLY............

AS WHAT I KNOW THIS NEWS GROUP IS A GROUP OF PEOPLE WHICH COME FROM ALL
WALK
OF LIFE THAT CAN SHARE THEIR KNOWLEDGE AND EXPERIENCE.

BUT SOMEHOW OR RATHER, THERE IS PEOPLE WHO ARE VERY PROUD OF THEM SELF
SUCH
AS MR JIM CHUMBLEY WHICH DO NOT WANT TO ASIST ME ON ANYTHING BUT RATHER TO
TURN ME DOWN CAUSE I AM NOT A HAM MEMBER YET.[Refer to my posting and
feedback from Mr. Jim Chumbley on 3rd January 2004]

ANYWAY TO ALL THE PEOPLE OUT THERE, I WILL SIT FOR MY EXAMINATION IN THIS
NEAR FUTURE, AND I DON'T THINK IF I HAVE ANY PROBLEM WITH THAT.

IF YOU THINK CAREFULLY, IF SOMEONE INTERESTED WITH HAM BUT CAN'T GET ANY
INFORMATION OR KNOWLEDGE FROM A FORUM, NEWS GROUP, CLUB OR FRIENDS ( IN
OTHER WORDS, HAM ARE SECRETIVE), DO YOU THINK HE OR SHE MIGHT BE A HAM
LATER
ON?

ONE THING YOU MUST REMEMBER, A HAM MUST BE HELPFUL AND READY TO SERVE THE
PUBLIC IN ANY CASES WHICH HE MIGHT BE.
+ A LOT OF NEW FRIENDS AND CONTACT.

ANYWAY I FEEL THIS IS A VERY GOOD NEWS GROUP TO GAIN ALL THE KNOWLEDGE AND
EXPERIENCE.

Please don't shout. Unlock your "Caps Lock" key.

Thanks & 73

"Mohd Nazry Bin Mustapa" wrote in message
...
I WOULD LIKE TO CLARIFIED, THIS NEWS GROUP IS NOT FOR HAM MEMBER
ONLY............

AS WHAT I KNOW THIS NEWS GROUP IS A GROUP OF PEOPLE WHICH COME FROM ALL
WALK
OF LIFE THAT CAN SHARE THEIR KNOWLEDGE AND EXPERIENCE.

BUT SOMEHOW OR RATHER, THERE IS PEOPLE WHO ARE VERY PROUD OF THEM SELF
SUCH
AS MR JIM CHUMBLEY WHICH DO NOT WANT TO ASIST ME ON ANYTHING BUT RATHER TO
TURN ME DOWN CAUSE I AM NOT A HAM MEMBER YET.[Refer to my posting and
feedback from Mr. Jim Chumbley on 3rd January 2004]

ANYWAY TO ALL THE PEOPLE OUT THERE, I WILL SIT FOR MY EXAMINATION IN THIS
NEAR FUTURE, AND I DON'T THINK IF I HAVE ANY PROBLEM WITH THAT.

IF YOU THINK CAREFULLY, IF SOMEONE INTERESTED WITH HAM BUT CAN'T GET ANY
INFORMATION OR KNOWLEDGE FROM A FORUM, NEWS GROUP, CLUB OR FRIENDS ( IN
OTHER WORDS, HAM ARE SECRETIVE), DO YOU THINK HE OR SHE MIGHT BE A HAM
LATER
ON?

ONE THING YOU MUST REMEMBER, A HAM MUST BE HELPFUL AND READY TO SERVE THE
PUBLIC IN ANY CASES WHICH HE MIGHT BE.
+ A LOT OF NEW FRIENDS AND CONTACT.

ANYWAY I FEEL THIS IS A VERY GOOD NEWS GROUP TO GAIN ALL THE KNOWLEDGE AND
EXPERIENCE.

Please do have some respect to other people by not calling 'BOZO'

I believe to be polite is nothing much to loose Mr.

Anyway Thanks for your what ever opinian that you did not express it out to
the newsgroup

TQ.


"Ham" wrote in message
...
Turn your caps off bozo


On Sun, 4 Jan 2004 03:59:51 +0800, "Mohd Nazry Bin Mustapa"
wrote:

I WOULD LIKE TO CLARIFIED, THIS NEWS GROUP IS NOT FOR HAM MEMBER
ONLY............

AS WHAT I KNOW THIS NEWS GROUP IS A GROUP OF PEOPLE WHICH COME FROM ALL
WALK
OF LIFE THAT CAN SHARE THEIR KNOWLEDGE AND EXPERIENCE.

BUT SOMEHOW OR RATHER, THERE IS PEOPLE WHO ARE VERY PROUD OF THEM SELF
SUCH
AS MR JIM CHUMBLEY WHICH DO NOT WANT TO ASIST ME ON ANYTHING BUT RATHER
TO
TURN ME DOWN CAUSE I AM NOT A HAM MEMBER YET.[Refer to my posting and
feedback from Mr. Jim Chumbley on 3rd January 2004]

ANYWAY TO ALL THE PEOPLE OUT THERE, I WILL SIT FOR MY EXAMINATION IN THIS
NEAR FUTURE, AND I DON'T THINK IF I HAVE ANY PROBLEM WITH THAT.

IF YOU THINK CAREFULLY, IF SOMEONE INTERESTED WITH HAM BUT CAN'T GET ANY
INFORMATION OR KNOWLEDGE FROM A FORUM, NEWS GROUP, CLUB OR FRIENDS ( IN
OTHER WORDS, HAM ARE SECRETIVE), DO YOU THINK HE OR SHE MIGHT BE A HAM
LATER
ON?

ONE THING YOU MUST REMEMBER, A HAM MUST BE HELPFUL AND READY TO SERVE THE
PUBLIC IN ANY CASES WHICH HE MIGHT BE.
+ A LOT OF NEW FRIENDS AND CONTACT.

ANYWAY I FEEL THIS IS A VERY GOOD NEWS GROUP TO GAIN ALL THE KNOWLEDGE
AND
EXPERIENCE.

Please do have some respect to other people by not calling 'BOZO'

I believe to be polite is nothing much to loose Mr.

Anyway Thanks for your what ever opinian that you did not express it out to
the newsgroup

TQ.


"Ham" wrote in message
...
Turn your caps off bozo


On Sun, 4 Jan 2004 03:59:51 +0800, "Mohd Nazry Bin Mustapa"
wrote:

I WOULD LIKE TO CLARIFIED, THIS NEWS GROUP IS NOT FOR HAM MEMBER
ONLY............

AS WHAT I KNOW THIS NEWS GROUP IS A GROUP OF PEOPLE WHICH COME FROM ALL
WALK
OF LIFE THAT CAN SHARE THEIR KNOWLEDGE AND EXPERIENCE.

BUT SOMEHOW OR RATHER, THERE IS PEOPLE WHO ARE VERY PROUD OF THEM SELF
SUCH
AS MR JIM CHUMBLEY WHICH DO NOT WANT TO ASIST ME ON ANYTHING BUT RATHER
TO
TURN ME DOWN CAUSE I AM NOT A HAM MEMBER YET.[Refer to my posting and
feedback from Mr. Jim Chumbley on 3rd January 2004]

ANYWAY TO ALL THE PEOPLE OUT THERE, I WILL SIT FOR MY EXAMINATION IN THIS
NEAR FUTURE, AND I DON'T THINK IF I HAVE ANY PROBLEM WITH THAT.

IF YOU THINK CAREFULLY, IF SOMEONE INTERESTED WITH HAM BUT CAN'T GET ANY
INFORMATION OR KNOWLEDGE FROM A FORUM, NEWS GROUP, CLUB OR FRIENDS ( IN
OTHER WORDS, HAM ARE SECRETIVE), DO YOU THINK HE OR SHE MIGHT BE A HAM
LATER
ON?

ONE THING YOU MUST REMEMBER, A HAM MUST BE HELPFUL AND READY TO SERVE THE
PUBLIC IN ANY CASES WHICH HE MIGHT BE.
+ A LOT OF NEW FRIENDS AND CONTACT.

ANYWAY I FEEL THIS IS A VERY GOOD NEWS GROUP TO GAIN ALL THE KNOWLEDGE
AND
EXPERIENCE.

Mohd Nazry Bin Mustapa wrote:

I WOULD LIKE TO CLARIFIED, THIS NEWS GROUP IS NOT FOR HAM MEMBER
ONLY............

AS WHAT I KNOW THIS NEWS GROUP IS A GROUP OF PEOPLE WHICH COME FROM ALL WALK
OF LIFE THAT CAN SHARE THEIR KNOWLEDGE AND EXPERIENCE.

BUT SOMEHOW OR RATHER, THERE IS PEOPLE WHO ARE VERY PROUD OF THEM SELF SUCH
AS MR JIM CHUMBLEY WHICH DO NOT WANT TO ASIST ME ON ANYTHING BUT RATHER TO
TURN ME DOWN CAUSE I AM NOT A HAM MEMBER YET.[Refer to my posting and
feedback from Mr. Jim Chumbley on 3rd January 2004]

ANYWAY TO ALL THE PEOPLE OUT THERE, I WILL SIT FOR MY EXAMINATION IN THIS
NEAR FUTURE, AND I DON'T THINK IF I HAVE ANY PROBLEM WITH THAT.

IF YOU THINK CAREFULLY, IF SOMEONE INTERESTED WITH HAM BUT CAN'T GET ANY
INFORMATION OR KNOWLEDGE FROM A FORUM, NEWS GROUP, CLUB OR FRIENDS ( IN
OTHER WORDS, HAM ARE SECRETIVE), DO YOU THINK HE OR SHE MIGHT BE A HAM LATER
ON?

ONE THING YOU MUST REMEMBER, A HAM MUST BE HELPFUL AND READY TO SERVE THE
PUBLIC IN ANY CASES WHICH HE MIGHT BE.
+ A LOT OF NEW FRIENDS AND CONTACT.

ANYWAY I FEEL THIS IS A VERY GOOD NEWS GROUP TO GAIN ALL THE KNOWLEDGE AND
EXPERIENCE.



I agree with Mohd Nazry Bin Mustapa that there is no membership
requirement implied just to share information. If there were I would not
be here since I am not a Ham, just an engineer who has had FCC
certification for repair of radio equipment. 1st class + radar for
marine work. I am however a very enthusiastic SWL buff and have been
using only American equipment since the 50s'. I like to pick up some
tips when relevant and may even say something once in a while, not
often, but this discrimination thing has to go.
Radio is for fun, not ego.
Bill Baka

Mohd Nazry Bin Mustapa wrote:

I WOULD LIKE TO CLARIFIED, THIS NEWS GROUP IS NOT FOR HAM MEMBER
ONLY............

AS WHAT I KNOW THIS NEWS GROUP IS A GROUP OF PEOPLE WHICH COME FROM ALL WALK
OF LIFE THAT CAN SHARE THEIR KNOWLEDGE AND EXPERIENCE.

BUT SOMEHOW OR RATHER, THERE IS PEOPLE WHO ARE VERY PROUD OF THEM SELF SUCH
AS MR JIM CHUMBLEY WHICH DO NOT WANT TO ASIST ME ON ANYTHING BUT RATHER TO
TURN ME DOWN CAUSE I AM NOT A HAM MEMBER YET.[Refer to my posting and
feedback from Mr. Jim Chumbley on 3rd January 2004]

ANYWAY TO ALL THE PEOPLE OUT THERE, I WILL SIT FOR MY EXAMINATION IN THIS
NEAR FUTURE, AND I DON'T THINK IF I HAVE ANY PROBLEM WITH THAT.

IF YOU THINK CAREFULLY, IF SOMEONE INTERESTED WITH HAM BUT CAN'T GET ANY
INFORMATION OR KNOWLEDGE FROM A FORUM, NEWS GROUP, CLUB OR FRIENDS ( IN
OTHER WORDS, HAM ARE SECRETIVE), DO YOU THINK HE OR SHE MIGHT BE A HAM LATER
ON?

ONE THING YOU MUST REMEMBER, A HAM MUST BE HELPFUL AND READY TO SERVE THE
PUBLIC IN ANY CASES WHICH HE MIGHT BE.
+ A LOT OF NEW FRIENDS AND CONTACT.

ANYWAY I FEEL THIS IS A VERY GOOD NEWS GROUP TO GAIN ALL THE KNOWLEDGE AND
EXPERIENCE.



I agree with Mohd Nazry Bin Mustapa that there is no membership
requirement implied just to share information. If there were I would not
be here since I am not a Ham, just an engineer who has had FCC
certification for repair of radio equipment. 1st class + radar for
marine work. I am however a very enthusiastic SWL buff and have been
using only American equipment since the 50s'. I like to pick up some
tips when relevant and may even say something once in a while, not
often, but this discrimination thing has to go.
Radio is for fun, not ego.
Bill Baka

This is my only concern:

These are the questions being raised by Mr. Mustapa:
a.) Can you use a linear amplifier on transmit or receive or both?
b.) Can someone help [me] on the software (ADMS-2H) for "programming"
the Yaesu FT-8900R?

These are not the questions of an experienced ham or of someone in the
process of learning technology so as to become a new ham. I have been an
Elmer for 30 years and have never heard thoughts like these being voiced. In
private emails Mr. Mustapa sent to me--to which I did not reply--he thinks
that my concern is about technical questions and conversations being carried
on by someone who is not a ham. This is absolutely not the case. Before any
of us was a ham we learned from someone, probably a ham. That's part of the
purpose, I hope, of this newsgroup. On that we can all agree.

No, my concern is that if questions like these are being asked by a non-ham,
what is his purpose in learning answers to technical questions like these.

I am afraid. I am very afraid.

I have been so ever since 9/11/2001, the date the World Trade Center was
destroyed in New York City.

These questions sound to me exactly like those that would be asked by
someone in Al Qaeda who is trying to develop just enough communications
expertise to learn to use amateur radio equipment like linear amplifiers and
new VHF/UHF transceivers like the Yaesu FT-8900R. With radios like the
beautiful, easy-to-get Yaesu FT-8900R, Al Qaeda can build a complete,
clandestine, world-wide communications system by using our small
transceivers to communicate with each other through our amateur radio
satellites.

Is it paranoid to be this concerned as I am? If the pilot training schools
had refused to train the pilot-trainees who learned just enough to fly the
big Boeings into the World Trade Center, they just might have never learned
how to do it. If we refuse to offer assistance, information, or programming
help to someone who admits that he is not a ham and does not intend to
become one, we just might prevent one person or more from setting up a new
Al Qaeda communications network and becoming the Al Qaeda Director of
World-wide Communications.

Afraid? You bet I'm afraid. I hope you are also.

I have no idea what Mr. Mustapa's intentions are. I do not even know which
continent he lives on. I accuse him of nothing. If his real intentions are
to learn CW at 5 WPM plus theory and regulations for a General-class
licensee, I would be very glad to help him myself in any way I can. But from
the tone of the questions asked, I am certain that I will never help to
answer those questions. I urge all other hams to follow this lead and not
share your technical expertise with people who bring great attention to
themselves by the very strangeness of the questions they ask. Ask yourself
whether the country might be harmed by helping people who ask questions like
these. Your answer at a minimum must be yes and a realization that there is
at least a real possibility that if you help people asking strange
questions, our country could be rendered less safe. And there is a real
possibility that if you help someone who asks questions like these, you
could be aiding in the future murder of thousands more people. We just don't
know.

Thank you for reading my response. I do not attend to write even one more. I
have said enough. May heaven bless you all, and may its protection extend
over all of the United States of America.

James F. Chumbley, N6UF
5082 Gazania Drive
San Jose, CA 95111-3915
1(408)578-1874


p.s. So how about it, Mr. Mustapa? Will you also post the real address of
where you live? Will you also post your telephone number?

Regards,

James F. Chumbley
Amateur Radio Station N6UF
__________________________________________________ __________________________

"Mohd Nazry Bin Mustapa" wrote in message
...
: I WOULD LIKE TO CLARIFIED, THIS NEWS GROUP IS NOT FOR HAM MEMBER
: ONLY............
:
: AS WHAT I KNOW THIS NEWS GROUP IS A GROUP OF PEOPLE WHICH COME FROM ALL
WALK
: OF LIFE THAT CAN SHARE THEIR KNOWLEDGE AND EXPERIENCE.
:
: BUT SOMEHOW OR RATHER, THERE IS PEOPLE WHO ARE VERY PROUD OF THEM SELF
SUCH
: AS MR JIM CHUMBLEY WHICH DO NOT WANT TO ASIST ME ON ANYTHING BUT RATHER TO
: TURN ME DOWN CAUSE I AM NOT A HAM MEMBER YET.[Refer to my posting and
: feedback from Mr. Jim Chumbley on 3rd January 2004]
:
: ANYWAY TO ALL THE PEOPLE OUT THERE, I WILL SIT FOR MY EXAMINATION IN THIS
: NEAR FUTURE, AND I DON'T THINK IF I HAVE ANY PROBLEM WITH THAT.
:
: IF YOU THINK CAREFULLY, IF SOMEONE INTERESTED WITH HAM BUT CAN'T GET ANY
: INFORMATION OR KNOWLEDGE FROM A FORUM, NEWS GROUP, CLUB OR FRIENDS ( IN
: OTHER WORDS, HAM ARE SECRETIVE), DO YOU THINK HE OR SHE MIGHT BE A HAM
LATER
: ON?
:
: ONE THING YOU MUST REMEMBER, A HAM MUST BE HELPFUL AND READY TO SERVE THE
: PUBLIC IN ANY CASES WHICH HE MIGHT BE.
: + A LOT OF NEW FRIENDS AND CONTACT.
:
: ANYWAY I FEEL THIS IS A VERY GOOD NEWS GROUP TO GAIN ALL THE KNOWLEDGE AND
: EXPERIENCE.
:
:
: